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ffs-dontcare

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In Starcraft (the original), I was in a Marine Defense map or whatever it's called. Basically we were meant to prevent progressively harder waves of enemies from going through our lines of defense and destroy them before they touched the other side of the map. I was consistently one of the better players in every Marine Defense match I played. However, during one match, the FIRST wave (comprised of Reavers) glitched and, upon becoming bottle-necked at my set-up defenses, turned around and went back the way they came. They touched the edge of the map where they spawned and the game ended, listing me as the one to blame. The 5 other players must've been fucking idiots because they could easily see what happened and yet the abuse came anyway.

I also got yelled at in CS:S by some Australian kid because the NZ servers were down and I DARED to play on an Australian server. "Go play on the NZ servers ******" etc.

RyQ_TMC said:
I once got yelled at for "slacking" in WoW when I was completely new to DPS in instances - apparently, all the other guys have those talent trees and skill sequences hardwired into their genes.

And also in WoW, I got kicked out for rolling need on a weapon which I actually needed (well, actually it was that there were two very good drops for my character in short succession and therefore I rolled need on both, but other players wouldn't listen to my explanations).
Fuck them. Everyone does something for the first time. I'll tell you what I was told when new to DPS in instances: roll need on anything you actually need, even if it means rolling need multiple times in one group. If your group isn't filled with ADD-afflicted elitists or impatient vein-poppers, they won't have a problem with it because if they're smart, they'll understand that you actually do need those items you're rolling on.

Also, there's no such thing as a "best spec". Regardless of what anyone will tell you, talents are there for your customization. Do what works for you but keep in mind what talents aren't suited for instances. Consider cookie-cutter specs to be mere recommendations - they do work well but nobody in their right mind should bottle-neck you into them. As for rotations, grab yourself an add-on like Recount and head to the dummies in any capital city. Try out different rotations yourself (don't just rely on reading it somewhere) and see what gets bigger numbers. Also take quick glances at the DPS and damage-done charts during boss fights to see how you're doing. Don't be afraid to experiment. It's part of the game.

If you're new, they shouldn't be bitching about you "wasting their time". Improving your DPS is your job, not theirs. Everyone has to start somewhere anyway.
 

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Russian_Assassin said:
Did someone install an asshole censor on my pc when I wasn't looking? I never had any problems in any of the online games I play. Oh wait, I did have some, but I completely ignore them, since I might get mad and all the players are not in my choking radius. Got accused for hacking in Team Fortress 2, because apparently some people are unaware that backstabbing is a one hit kill...
Speaking of good ol' TF2, since when is it illegal to use the Cloak and Dagger, Natascha, the Eyelander, the Sandvich, the Chargin' Targe, the Force 'a' Nature or the Backburner? Goddamn, some people just want to use their new toys in peace, y'know.
 

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ffs-dontcare said:
Also, there's no such thing as a "best spec". Regardless of what anyone will tell you, talents are there for your customization. Do what works for you but keep in mind what talents aren't suited for instances. Consider cookie-cutter specs to be mere recommendations - they do work well but nobody in their right mind should bottle-neck you into them.
Bullshit. This is why theorycrafting exists. Numbers don't lie. There is a best spec. You can have your "Preferred" specs all you want, but don't for a moment think that there isn't an optimised spec for each class and role depending on fight and gear level.

The Random One said:
...It's a game.

A game is something you do for pleasure. If studying strategies for being better at a game gives you pleasure, it's part of the game and you do it. If not, or if it actually detracts from your pleasure because you like to go in new, you don't.

And it doesn't matter because it's a game.

It's a game people play to have fun.

A game.

Although if by not doing a minute thing right you're causing 4 other people to 'waste' their time (as opposed to dilligently employ their time towards a grand goal as usual?) it must not be a very good game.
Okay, it's a game, but there's four other guys there playing too, and they might not *like* wiping on bosses because you can't keep up the DPS requirement and they might not *like* having to deal with 80g repair bills because you couldn't spend ten minutes researching your class.

You are, in essence, actively choosing to make other player's experience worse. Do you have an issue with griefers in other games too? How about team killers? Because sometimes, that's what this amounts to. Except instead of having to wait 8 seconds to respawn, such team killing can set you back 10 minutes of gameplay per death to cover your repair/reagent costs.

I'm sorry you're "too busy" or "too focused on having fun" to spend 10 minutes looking up a cookie cutter spec, rotation and what gear choices are best for your class.

You step into my PuGs I expect efficiency and good gameplay. It takes many, many hours to get to 80 and I shouldn't be walking you through what your abilities and talents do after you've had literally days of playing for a class I've never even touched.
 

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Feriluce said:
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Whats the point of scoping in at that point? Seems like it would be more effecient to just shoot unscoped if you already know where the center of your screen is.
Because there is apparently way more recoil if you don't scope, when you aim down the sight, about midway through the animation THEN you get more accuracy, but before you can shoot at a 90 degree angle to your intended target.
 

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Amnestic said:
ffs-dontcare said:
Also, there's no such thing as a "best spec". Regardless of what anyone will tell you, talents are there for your customization. Do what works for you but keep in mind what talents aren't suited for instances. Consider cookie-cutter specs to be mere recommendations - they do work well but nobody in their right mind should bottle-neck you into them.
Bullshit. This is why theorycrafting exists. Numbers don't lie. There is a best spec. You can have your "Preferred" specs all you want, but don't for a moment think that there isn't an optimised spec for each class and role depending on fight and gear level.

The Random One said:
...It's a game.

A game is something you do for pleasure. If studying strategies for being better at a game gives you pleasure, it's part of the game and you do it. If not, or if it actually detracts from your pleasure because you like to go in new, you don't.

And it doesn't matter because it's a game.

It's a game people play to have fun.

A game.

Although if by not doing a minute thing right you're causing 4 other people to 'waste' their time (as opposed to dilligently employ their time towards a grand goal as usual?) it must not be a very good game.
Okay, it's a game, but there's four other guys there playing too, and they might not *like* wiping on bosses because you can't keep up the DPS requirement and they might not *like* having to deal with 80g repair bills because you couldn't spend ten minutes researching your class.

You are, in essence, actively choosing to make other player's experience worse. Do you have an issue with griefers in other games too? How about team killers? Because sometimes, that's what this amounts to. Except instead of having to wait 8 seconds to respawn, such team killing can set you back 10 minutes of gameplay per death to cover your repair/reagent costs.

I'm sorry you're "too busy" or "too focused on having fun" to spend 10 minutes looking up a cookie cutter spec, rotation and what gear choices are best for your class.

You step into my PuGs I expect efficiency and good gameplay. It takes many, many hours to get to 80 and I shouldn't be walking you through what your abilities and talents do after you've had literally days of playing for a class I've never even touched.
*yawn* you do know that on some battle groups the MAJORITY of people play like idiots. I was leveling my main 2 months to 80 with a friend and EVERY instance Alliance side had 90% bad people. My friend and I were still able to perform our roles so well that we made up for their inadequate abilities. He was talking about random instances. If I could do it, you could do it too. Just see it as a challenge to beat the boss with all the DPS coming from you. I'm not going to have try though once I transfer horde.
 

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SC2 beta I beat a guy who sucked while playing Terran. The only reason he lost was because he sucked. Then, instead of giving the sportsmanlike gg, he told me Terran needed a nerf cause someone with no skill could win. He quit before I could send my response: "no, you just suck."
 

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Krion_Vark said:
So here is the question I pose to you Escapist. What is the most outrageous thing you have ever been yelled at while playing a game online.
If you ever played Black Hawk Down, you would know about the server managers that allow you to have language filters. I've been kicked out of two servers for saying "mom".
 

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Marik2 said:
Oh thats because those kids think Sniping is suppose to be like this. They think its cool to quick scope.
Geeze, I'm glad I don't play that game. So lame that the sniper rifle is that effective without even bothering to aim. The dude's getting one-shot kills from grazing their elbows.
 

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While a lot of complaints are lame, some are legitimate. Some tactics are so overpowered or cheap that they actually ruin the game.

The awp in CS is so powerful that it the game is ruined. You can shoot someone in the foot who has full body armor and they die. O and did i mention its 100% actually while jumping through the air with no scope (put a dot on your monitor for a crosshair). So this is why I never played this game in a serious manner. It's just lame. You have 20 guns and only 3 effective ones, and 2 of the those guns are hold overs for when you got money for the third. Point being, one lame gun ruins a whole game.

Now I played natural selection clan play. There was a few cheap exploits in that game but none of them ruined the game.

I stopped playing Modern warfare because sniping in that game is SOOOOOOOOO easy. Ands it's just boring stratless deathmatch. Easy sniping and martrydom ruined the game for me. Some things are just so lame, that no matter how good things are some small things break a game.

Which brings me to my point. People can complain about things like camp sniping in those games, because they ruin the game. However, snipe all you want. No rules against it, then it's ok. If you don't like it, don't play. In battlefield 2142 I used to play on a server that had strict rules. I would defend these this rules. For example, you could not jump to dodge people or dolphin dive unless jumping over an obstacle. This is because hitboxes are broken when jumping. You couldn't use suicide tactics like blow yourself up, because if you ever played the game on a normal server, you can dolphin dive and drop mines on people all day or send in suicide drivers. No one uses guns on a normal server. A simple ban of two lame strats turned the game into a super strategic balanced game. O and squad leaders could kick you off server for not following directions. As for the sniping in that game and gun balance. Everyone had their own preference and there are no dominate guns. There are 4 classes that each serve their purpose, none which dominate all others. Within those classes are different specs or guns. None dominate others. It's a beautiful balanced game. Even to this day, you can take the top 100 assault class users and they will sit and debate whether lmg, standard issue or hmg is the best. You can't sit and cheaply snipe all day unless your a truly expert at sniping. Where as in CS you can win will all snipers, you will get DESTROYED if you all go sniper in battlefield. Point being, there is diversity and no dominate lame tactic in that game after you remove just two dominate lame tactics. The game goes from suicide spam bombing to a great multi strategic game.
 

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Marik2 said:
Krion_Vark said:
Okay. So I haven't played XBL for a while so I decided to start playing again the other day and played MW2 not even the third match I played in I was yelled at. Not for being bad mind you. For ACTUALLY playing the game how your supposed to be by doing something some twelve year old kid decided to call HARD Scoping with my sniper. If you don't know what HARD Scoping is its when you zoom in and stay zoomed in. I didn't know that was against the law of the online gaming universe to use a weapon the way it was intended. LIKE SERIOUSLY the kid yelled at me called me a cheater and kept saying how much better at the game he was than me when every match I played against him he was always last on his team and I was near the top.

So here is the question I pose to you Escapist. What is the most outrageous thing you have ever been yelled at while playing a game online.
Oh thats because those kids think Sniping is suppose to be like this. They think its cool to quick scope.
Oh my gosh I admit that is awesome right there. However the only reason you don't hard scope is ironically because if you play with any decent players they just own you. Because if you stay scoped you can't see very well and good players take advantage of that. So basically they were yelling at you because they sucked...
 

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omgtempname said:
I stopped playing Modern warfare because sniping in that game is SOOOOOOOOO easy. Ands it's just boring stratless deathmatch. Easy sniping and martrydom ruined the game for me. Some things are just so lame, that no matter how good things are some small things break a game.
Which is why I am personally looking forward to <youtube=nQoJR893uhM> HOPEFULLY it will have good multiplayer and be the Story driven games that I have played in the past and not make a shit multiplayer that is apparently "THE BEST" multiplayer ever created which is what people believe when its one of THE WORST ever created because soon as they send it out they don't tweak it to make sure things aren't too over powered.
 

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omgtempname said:
While a lot of complaints are lame, some are legitimate. Some tactics are so overpowered or cheap that they actually ruin the game.

The awp in CS is so powerful that it the game is ruined. You can shoot someone in the foot who has full body armor and they die. O and did i mention its 100% actually while jumping through the air with no scope (put a dot on your monitor for a crosshair). So this is why I never played this game in a serious manner. It's just lame. You have 20 guns and only 3 effective ones, and 2 of the those guns are hold overs for when you got money for the third. Point being, one lame gun ruins a whole game.
The funny thing is, when I played CS:S, not every AWP hit I got on someone was a one-hit kill. Sometimes it took two or three shots, even when they were standing still or running in a straight line toward me. And I know for a fact that it wasn't my connection playing up.

I never relied on or used the AWP because it was just far too unreliable for me. The Scout was more effective, believe it or not. I took out 7 terrorists in one match with that gun. Bloody awesome.
 

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Completing the objectives when aparently I wasn't supposed to. This is my third reason as to why I don't play online.
 

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ethaninja said:
Completing the objectives when aparently I wasn't supposed to. This is my third reason as to why I don't play online.
Which begs the question: Why the hell are these people playing an objective-based game mode if they want to play death-match?
 

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Two guys in ShadowRun decided to massacre our own team. I was able to evade them and they got taken out, one of them by me and one by the other team. They screamed at me until I just muted the damn TV.
 

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Amnestic said:
Okay, it's a game, but there's four other guys there playing too, and they might not *like* wiping on bosses because you can't keep up the DPS requirement and they might not *like* having to deal with 80g repair bills because you couldn't spend ten minutes researching your class.

You are, in essence, actively choosing to make other player's experience worse. Do you have an issue with griefers in other games too? How about team killers? Because sometimes, that's what this amounts to. Except instead of having to wait 8 seconds to respawn, such team killing can set you back 10 minutes of gameplay per death to cover your repair/reagent costs.

I'm sorry you're "too busy" or "too focused on having fun" to spend 10 minutes looking up a cookie cutter spec, rotation and what gear choices are best for your class.

You step into my PuGs I expect efficiency and good gameplay. It takes many, many hours to get to 80 and I shouldn't be walking you through what your abilities and talents do after you've had literally days of playing for a class I've never even touched.
how much per month do you pay to get this agitated?