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Rolling Thunder said:
In other news tonight, gross oversimplifications are gross and simple.
it can be but i think more people need to actually do that once in a while, it gives them a lot better perspective on things and frankly makes them open their eyes a bit
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
not really, it doesn't have to be overly complicated, too many people like to complicate things that don't need to be.
People who tend to simplify things tend to have a rather poor understanding of the complexity of the phenomena they talk about. Sure, generalisations are sometimes needed for the sake of discussion, but there's this nagging feeling I can't shake that some people really believe there are "simple" things. Those are the people who fail to understand both context and the fundamentals of the natural sciences.

Human relationships are a complex business. Just think about the biochemistry and the social stimuli.
 

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Honestly, when you find the right person the sex is an afterthought anyway.
This
Sex should never be the crux of a reletionship, it's bound to fall apart.
 

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lizards said:
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lizards said:
do what i do 1 night stands

a very simple solution
But where's the emotional satisfaction?
if you want emotional satisfaction get a puppy (i love puppies) if you want sex go for the gold (1 night stands)

besides a puppy doesnt ***** at you day and night

edit: and also marriage is just a liscense to stop having fun........just saying
Cool story, but don't you have homework to do?
 

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Rolling Thunder said:
Cool story, but don't you have homework to do?
Why the condescending attitude? Granted, lizards wasn't that considerate either but how is your remark in any way relevant?
 

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Sad Robot said:
cleverlymadeup said:
not really, it doesn't have to be overly complicated, too many people like to complicate things that don't need to be.
People who tend to simplify things tend to have a rather poor understanding of the complexity of the phenomena they talk about. Sure, generalisations are sometimes needed for the sake of discussion, but there's this nagging feeling I can't shake that some people really believe there are "simple" things. Those are the people who fail to understand both context and the fundamentals of the natural sciences.

Human relationships are a complex business. Just think about the biochemistry and the social stimuli.
actually it's the other way around. the fact you can look at something AND simplify it means you have a very good understanding of what's going on. if you want to try and say it's overly complex, then in reality you do NOT understand what you're talking about or you are in denial about something.

things are always very simple, we just want to make them complicated because it sounds better that way
 

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Sad Robot said:
People have this strange notion that loyalty means only sleeping with one person.
*claps, then gives cookie*
sex is sex. an act nothing more. if someone is offended by their partner having sex with others, then good for them. However, if I traveled for a year, then came back only to find my girl knows things she didn't before*wink wink*, I'd be freakin thrilled. If I came back to find she didnt love me anymore, then not so thrilled.
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
Sad Robot said:
cleverlymadeup said:
not really, it doesn't have to be overly complicated, too many people like to complicate things that don't need to be.
People who tend to simplify things tend to have a rather poor understanding of the complexity of the phenomena they talk about. Sure, generalisations are sometimes needed for the sake of discussion, but there's this nagging feeling I can't shake that some people really believe there are "simple" things. Those are the people who fail to understand both context and the fundamentals of the natural sciences.

Human relationships are a complex business. Just think about the biochemistry and the social stimuli.
actually it's the other way around. the fact you can look at something AND simplify it means you have a very good understanding of what's going on. if you want to try and say it's overly complex, then in reality you do NOT understand what you're talking about or you are in denial about something.

things are always very simple, we just want to make them complicated because it sounds better that way
So are you saying that biochemistry is simple? that social behaviors are simple? are yo saying this is all perfectly explainable and is in fact not as complicated as people think?/double sarcasm
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
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Sex is only a fraction of a relationship. But i can see where your coming from.
A very large fraction, like 98%
yeah i tried to explain to my friend that sex was important in a relationship. when you're grown up, no sex in a relationship means you're just friends. unless you're really old and stuff doesn't work anymore
Iwas with a bird for over 5 years who just wasn't into sex. Felt pretty fucking important then, I can tell you.
 

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Lullabye said:
cleverlymadeup said:
Sad Robot said:
cleverlymadeup said:
not really, it doesn't have to be overly complicated, too many people like to complicate things that don't need to be.
People who tend to simplify things tend to have a rather poor understanding of the complexity of the phenomena they talk about. Sure, generalisations are sometimes needed for the sake of discussion, but there's this nagging feeling I can't shake that some people really believe there are "simple" things. Those are the people who fail to understand both context and the fundamentals of the natural sciences.

Human relationships are a complex business. Just think about the biochemistry and the social stimuli.
actually it's the other way around. the fact you can look at something AND simplify it means you have a very good understanding of what's going on. if you want to try and say it's overly complex, then in reality you do NOT understand what you're talking about or you are in denial about something.

things are always very simple, we just want to make them complicated because it sounds better that way
So are you saying that biochemistry is simple? that social behaviors are simple? are yo saying this is all perfectly explainable and is in fact not as complicated as people think?/double sarcasm
Indeed. Very, very few people seem to grasp how complex we and our surroundings are. If you doubt this, you can always take a course in biochemistry or something like quantum physics or indeed cosmology.
 

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Lullabye said:
Sad Robot said:
People have this strange notion that loyalty means only sleeping with one person.
*claps, then gives cookie*
sex is sex. an act nothing more. if someone is offended by their partner having sex with others, then good for them. However, if I traveled for a year, then came back only to find my girl knows things she didn't before*wink wink*, I'd be freakin thrilled. If I came back to find she didnt love me anymore, then not so thrilled.
Ha. Thanks for the cookie. :)

But yeah, on a further note, loyalty is hard to come by. A lot of people are willing to discard someone the moment they're going through a rough patch, the moment they stop being useful. Hell, I've acted like that. People are dicks.

What I've learned so far in my relatively short life is that love is not to be undermined. So far, for me, the only kind of love I've known is that within my immediate family. It's not easy, it's not painless, but it doesn't discriminate. And while it may as well prove to be as fleeting as friendship and romantic love, it's something to be valued while it lasts. We have little else.
 

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Lullabye said:
So are you saying that biochemistry is simple? that social behaviors are simple? are yo saying this is all perfectly explainable and is in fact not as complicated as people think?/double sarcasm
actually yes biochemistry is pretty easy, it's hard to learn but really it's pretty simple

social behavior is even easier to understand, you just want to complicate it. the way we act isn't a big mystery. we might try and have a long winded complex explanation for it but in reality there's a very simple reason for why we do things

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Iwas with a bird for over 5 years who just wasn't into sex. Felt pretty fucking important then, I can tell you.
yeah and i'm betting she found some other guy after that and screwed his brains out. sorry but you had a best friend and not a girlfriend. you might think it's some stupid thing however i was really brought into this type of thinking by a couple female friends of mine when we were discussing a friend's relationship at the time
 

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Sad Robot said:
Lullabye said:
Sad Robot said:
People have this strange notion that loyalty means only sleeping with one person.
*claps, then gives cookie*
sex is sex. an act nothing more. if someone is offended by their partner having sex with others, then good for them. However, if I traveled for a year, then came back only to find my girl knows things she didn't before*wink wink*, I'd be freakin thrilled. If I came back to find she didnt love me anymore, then not so thrilled.
Ha. Thanks for the cookie. :)

But yeah, on a further note, loyalty is hard to come by. A lot of people are willing to discard someone the moment they're going through a rough patch, the moment they stop being useful. Hell, I've acted like that. People are dicks.

What I've learned so far in my relatively short life is that love is not to be undermined. So far, for me, the only kind of love I've known is that within my immediate family. It's not easy, it's not painless, but it doesn't discriminate. And while it may as well prove to be as fleeting as friendship and romantic love, it's something to be valued while it lasts. We have little else.
Nice opinion. I like romantics, but reality takes priority for me. I do what makes me happy, as everyone does. I dont like putting (to me) pointless meanings on chemicals in our head which sole purpose is to make us live.
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
Lullabye said:
So are you saying that biochemistry is simple? that social behaviors are simple? are yo saying this is all perfectly explainable and is in fact not as complicated as people think?/double sarcasm
actually yes biochemistry is pretty easy, it's hard to learn but really it's pretty simple

social behavior is even easier to understand, you just want to complicate it. the way we act isn't a big mystery. we might try and have a long winded complex explanation for it but in reality there's a very simple reason for why we do things
I know. I hate complicating things.
also, what exactly is this simple reason for why we do things?
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
actually yes biochemistry is pretty easy, it's hard to learn but really it's pretty simple

social behavior is even easier to understand, you just want to complicate it. the way we act isn't a big mystery. we might try and have a long winded complex explanation for it but in reality there's a very simple reason for why we do things
The thing is that it isn't some "big mystery". It's that so far we understand only so much and what we do know, is pretty damn complicated. You must remember, that the things you're taught in school are simplifications of complicated phenomena, we simplify them in order to be able to process the notions in our minds. If it were all so simple, if we'd figured it all out, then why don't we have a cure for every imaginable disease? Why haven't we terraformed Mars? These are not ideas completely out of the question if we understand all the contributing factors and their functions. In fact, why do we even pay people to do research if it's all so simple and we've already figured it all out? Out of spite?

But it's all about perspective, I suppose. To me, nothing in this world is simple. If you consider the ocean of molecular reactions happening in your body any given second "simple", not to mention the bizarre dance of their sub-atomic particles, then you are far more intelligent and aware than I could've ever imagined anyone could be, and I apologize.
 

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Lullabye said:
Nice opinion. I like romantics, but reality takes priority for me. I do what makes me happy, as everyone does. I dont like putting (to me) pointless meanings on chemicals in our head which sole purpose is to make us live.
Nor do I. I don't "attach pointless meaning" because I quite readily agree that there is no inherent meaning to anything that happens. But we do define things, we apply meaning to them and we reason where there's no deeper reason to reason than the will of our biological programming. It's an admirably orderly and intricate chemical process that makes you feel life is worth it, that things are worth doing, even if in a cosmic scale it was never a question of that at all.
 

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Nah no multiple partners 4 me, like if your just gonna b wit one girl then stick with her if shes worth it. like if ya find urself wantin 2 go off with some other one then maybe your not that into your partner?