Should I file a sexual harassment claim?

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Conza

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Brawndo said:
I started a part-time job at a state agency about four weeks ago, and there is a married woman in her early 50s who works there who is not my direct superior, but is still above me. She appears tired and sulky most of the time, but whenever she sees me she brightens up immediately. She acts flirty every time she talks to me and often gives me compliments on what I am wearing that day. She has grabbed my biceps at least twice before and asked whether I work out.

Yesterday I got a buzzcut, and today at work she unexpectedly came up from behind me when I was seated and ran her hands all over my head and commented how I look like the guy from Prison Break.

Now it's very possible she is being an innocent flirt because she is bored at work and means nothing by it, but I am going to choose to feel violated and offended instead. I am not a sexual object, and I demand to be taken seriously at my job!

Should I file a claim and potentially ruin this woman's long career and marriage?
No dude, forget about it, or just comment on it like 'do you mind please?' / 'what are you doing?', that's probably as far as you'd want to go.

I know this is completely off topic, but, Prison Break? You don't (shes doesn't) mean this guy do you? Because this is just a shaved head, not a buzz cut.


This, is a buzz cut (first one that came to mind).

 

Eagle Est1986

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That's sexual harassment? Um, ok then, guess I've had that at most jobs I've been at.... so either I'm irresistible to women or maybe you need to calm down, man up and tell her to back off if it's really making you that uncomfortable.
 

PureChaos

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as others have said, tell her to back off first, if she continues to act inappropriately, warn her you will take action if she doesn't stop, if she continues then yes
 

poppabaggins

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I didn't read every post, but I skimmed the first few pages.

To me, it's pretty obvious that the OP is just trying to make a point about ridiculous sexual harassment claims.
 

Captain Schpack

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Gxas said:
I'd say tell her to stop first, before you file a complaint. If she doesn't stop, then file the complaint.
Yeah, don't go out and ruin her. Give her 2-3 chances to stop it with increasing levels of seriousness in your warnings before you file. Also, be aware of anvils from on high.

What I mean by that is make sure she doesn't;t use her superior ladder status to threaten your job or anything like that.
 

DemonicVixen

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Gxas said:
I'd say tell her to stop first, before you file a complaint. If she doesn't stop, then file the complaint.
Agreed.

OP: I'm sorry, but if you think thats sexual harrasment, I was ASSAULTED on my very first shift (also happened to be a night shift). Its not really sexual in the way that sexual harassment is seen. I guess you can call it harasment in terms of she's singling you out. But she isnt touching you on your private areas or trying to kiss you etc so try not to take too much offence and start acting like she's some sick criminal.
Speak to her and see what she thinks, explain that you do not like the treatment she's giving you and that you wish her to "tone it down". Best to either record/have someone present or write it to her in case she denies that you spoke with her.

If this fails, speak to the manager and explain the situation. They will decide whether the situation calls for her to be sacked. Personally I doubt she will be. Yes what she's doing is rather unpolite, but its not major. A lot of women just tend to flirt with new guys. Your probably right that she's bored and just wants to tease you a bit.
 

DanielDeFig

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Sexual harassment has a lot to do if the victim actually feels harassed. If you feel uncomfortable about what she does, then let her know. If she refuses to stop, despite you making it known that it makes you uncomfortable, then you can claim sexual harassment.
Inform her before you do anything drastic, as you said, it could be harmless, and she simply doesn't realize how you feel.
 

DudeistBelieve

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Brawndo said:
LISTEN, why should I have to confront her and talk about it first? It's not fair that I get put in such a embarrassing and awkward situation, because I have done nothing wrong.

I mean, a family friend in his 60s was fired from his six-figure job for patting a female male clerk on the thigh, and she never asked him to stop. Why should I, as a male, have to act differently?
You only should if you don't want to be a dick. If you want to go ahead and be another cease pool like the female clerk in your example, you certainly can.

It also will put you completely in the right if she doesn't stop.
 

se7ensenses

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Gxas said:
I'd say tell her to stop first, before you file a complaint. If she doesn't stop, then file the complaint.
That is exactly what you need to do. Or ask her out...
 

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Brawndo said:
LISTEN, why should I have to confront her and talk about it first? It's not fair that I get put in such a embarrassing and awkward situation, because I have done nothing wrong.

I mean, a family friend in his 60s was fired from his six-figure job for patting a female male clerk on the thigh, and she never asked him to stop. Why should I, as a male, have to act differently?
unless she grabed your croch its not sexual harrasment. Also she might just be one of tose people who like to touch people its just the way they are built. Just tell her not to do that anymore and shell probily stop theres a good chance she doesnt even know shes doing it.
 

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Errr not sure why there's a problem here, just have a laugh with her, relax and enjoy your job, it doesn't HAVE to be misery every day.

If it becomes a problem just let her know not to do it in front of customers/clients whatever.

EDIT: Just read back through the OP's posts and can see that he is trolling us. Back under your rock, douchebag.
 

Denamic

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How about actually dealing with a problem yourself instead of getting the government involved with such petty crap?
I get why people would file a complaint if someone is genuinely sketchy, like if they're grabbing your groin and won't stop when you ask them to.
But for just being flirty and not really 'getting the signals'?
No. Just fuck no.
 

Greyhald

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Brawndo said:
I started a part-time job at a state agency about four weeks ago, and there is a married woman in her early 50s who works there who is not my direct superior, but is still above me. She appears tired and sulky most of the time, but whenever she sees me she brightens up immediately. She acts flirty every time she talks to me and often gives me compliments on what I am wearing that day. She has grabbed my biceps at least twice before and asked whether I work out.

Yesterday I got a buzzcut, and today at work she unexpectedly came up from behind me when I was seated and ran her hands all over my head and commented how I look like the guy from Prison Break.

Now it's very possible she is being an innocent flirt because she is bored at work and means nothing by it, but I am going to choose to feel violated and offended instead. I am not a sexual object, and I demand to be taken seriously at my job!

Should I file a claim and potentially ruin this woman's long career and marriage?
First be aware that whether it's innocent on her part or not is irrelevent. If it is innocent tho explaining it to her once should do the job with no hard feelings from anywhere. Chances are it wouldn't be the first time she's heard that speech.

You need to tell her that it's making you uncomfortable. From a legal standpoint this is your first port of call, morally it's probably the best place to start too.

ALWAYS USE THE WORD UNCOMFORTABLE. It's a nice neutral word unlikely to generate any unnecessary hostility. Just be clear on the fact that it needs to stop.

Try and make sure that no-one else is watching or within earshot so she doesn't take it as an attempt to embarras or humiliate her. For god's sake don't tell her you don't want to have sex with her or anything like that, just that it makes you uncomfortable and you prefer it didn't happen. Giving her an honest chance to take the hint is the first step in the office politics part too. Creating enmity in the workplace is never a good thing and should be avoided at all costs.

Give it 3 times, never getting more forceful. Just explain it.

On the 4th occasion just explain that it needs to stop or you are going to have to go to a superior. Make sure you tell her you don't want to but you don't see any other option.

Then, if you have to, go to a superior and tell them that you don't want to stir trouble but you need it to stop. No punishment etc, just it needs to stop.

Chances are by this time that even if she is interested she will have taken the hint and will back off.

If you get past this point and it hasn't stopped, don't ask on a forum, ask a lawyer. A drafted letter to her superiors will most likely put an end to it.

Going to court over something like this will undoubtedly brand YOU for life as much as it does her. These types of things have a habit of following you around. Doing your best to bypass the court system is in your own best interest as much as it is in hers.

DemonicVixen said:
OP: I'm sorry, but if you think thats sexual harrasment, I was ASSAULTED on my very first shift (also happened to be a night shift). Its not really sexual in the way that sexual harassment is seen.
Sexual harassment is any unwanted interaction based on gender or sexual preference.

n.
The making of unwanted and offensive sexual advances or of sexually offensive remarks or acts.
It somewhat hinges on whether the person in question is offended by the act as much as the act itself.

It also has to do with "unwanted" which is why you show a pattern of attempting to stop it. If the pattern trying to stop it is of sufficient length even minor acts are punishable by law.