Should I file a sexual harassment claim?

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GreatTeacherCAW said:
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You know what? Fuck it. Women file claims for men looking at them wrong, so you might as well give a legal slap back.
Yes, this whole "being the bigger person" is so tiresome and immature.

Wait, what?
How is sitting on your ass and doing nothing being a bigger person? Everytime I hear/see the "bigger person" argument, it just sounds like they're telling the person to back down and cower.
No, but how about having an actual conversation with them first? How does that hurt your cause? THAT's begin the bigger person. Overreacting and screaming "But they do it all the time!" is not.
Not saying he should "sit on his ass", saying he should be a mature, reasonable individual.
Welcome to 2011. I haven't met a "mature, reasonable individual" in years. The fact that he is asking the internet for help on what basically sounds like nothing more than an old woman petting some hair kind of seals that.
If you agree that the woman is just "petting some hair", and yet go ahead and claim "Claim sexual harassment right away", aren't you sort of proving your own point about there not being any "mature, reasonable individuals"?
I never claimed to be mature. Fuck, I make my living off of fabrication. I am jumping way too many guns and spitting in the wind, though. You are right. I think the claim is extremely minor and not even note worthy on a desk, but I do think that it should be filed for the sole fact of equality. A woman can file one for a whistle, so why shouldn't he file one for a few hair touches? And before anyone brings up equality in the workplace, I already know that it is extremely unbalanced and mostly male favored. Except when anything involving human interaction is involved, then it is solely a woman's place. They hold the power for such claims, as ridiculous as they may be.
Just because one can, doesn't mean one should. It won't do anything for men getting sexually harassed at large, nor will it do for women. It will just be a pointless overreaction, an act of anger because "I think women overreact and pull these claims for bullshit reasons".
How does two wrongs make one right?

Now, don't get me wrong. I hate special treatment as well (My favorite are women that expect to get into bars for free, and underage, and to be bought drinks and courted by men there, yet get upset when you call them out on the fact that they only want to be treated equally when it benefits them), but you CAN be reasonable and give people the benefit of the doubt, or allowing them to better themselves, before striking them down.
Besides, really screwing them over feel so much better after they failed to redeem themselves upon given the opportunity,.
 

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There's a pretty reasonable solution for this problem; the next time that she does something that you think puts you in an uncomfortable position, let her know that you're kind of uncomfortable. Don't be too straight up, just to let her know that you do not enjoy her behaving like that. If she continue to do it, hold your ground and give her both barrels. Let her know that her behaviour is completely inadequate and that if she doesn't stop, you'll be forced to file in a sexual harrassment complaint, and possibly a lawsuit.

I can almost guarantee she'll stop, and if she doesn't, you had no option other than filing a lawsuit; she continues to be selfish and make you uncomfortable, her behaviour is not permissible in a work enviroment, and she's violating her matrimonial vows.
 

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dude, its an old lady who wants the attention of a younger co-worker is it really such a big deal for you to ruin her life over? sure if you feel that you've earned the right to sue her then go for it, but she might loose her job and husband and then be broke and lonely for the rest of her life. Im just saying, if you feel like ruining her life go for it. Just be aware of the fact that your not doing it out of any other reason then malice. Because if you have a problem try to talk it out.
 

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Satire will be missed by people on the internet. Even if you write "This is satire" at the bottom.

See: This thread.
 

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Being offended and violated is a tad over-the-top BUT at the same time, if you're not happy with it then you're not happy with it and it has to be made clear that it can't go on.

As people have already said, don't go all "sue-crazy" and just have a word with her first but make it:

a) Quiet
b) Friendly
c) PRIVATE!

Just explain that you have your boundaries and that you'd like her to respect them. If she tries to laugh it off or gets the hump then informe her that if she doesn't stop then you will take it further. Hopefully the informal, private chat will do the trick as long as you remain firm and assertive but civil.

Do NOT let her just brush it off. If the sexes were reversed then you'd already have the feminist brigade outside your door with the pitchforks, lynch ropes and torches. Equality, remember?

You asked why you should confront her rather than immediately chuck the toys out the pram and I will tell you. If you go running to the boss, you could ruin someone's life and reputation for something relatively minor. It doesn't matter how close to retirement she is and how long do you think you'd last in the aftermath? For starters, everyone else will most likely be afraid to even speak to you and that will just make things worse for you as well as them. If you just take a breath and have the quiet word, like I said, then no-one else need be any the wiser and that should be the end of it. Man up and have a polite chat with her!

Anyway, if that doesn't work (which should be pretty unlikely), speak to her immediate superior and make sure that it's done formally. He/She should make notes and, when they've been transposed into a formal statement, both you and the boss should sign it so there is a record that the meeting took place. This is to cover your arse more than theirs because if nothing is done then you can say that you have filed a formal complaint that should have been upheld.

Anyway, that should normally do it, assuming the complaint is upheld and your boss has a word with your colleague. Don't let them sweep it under the carpet either. Until the matter is resolved, keep asking about it.

Does it show that I've had some experience in this area? Mine was for bullying / victimisation rather than sexual harrassment but the principle is the same.

Anyway, an informal chat with her should sort it all out and hopefully she's mature enough to say sorry and things will remain civil between you two because there's nothing worse than a bad atmosphere at work.

What I will say is that, should you have the chat and it's all good then LET THAT BE THE END OF IT! Never mention it again and move on. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Hope I was of some use.

Wardy
 

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theflyingpeanut said:
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ZeroMachine said:
EDIT: Oh, I get it now. You're trolling or trying to make a point.

You're not really good at it.
except that it took almost a whole page before most people caught on. so, he's actually pretty good.
Actually, no one seems to have caught on. This guy is quite excellent.
About three or four have... but yeah its way over most posters' head.
I know. If you listen closely, you can almost hear the sound of a hundred pennies waiting to drop.
I dunno... I've found this entire thread to be quite depressing, actually. The OP is a little too good. Even though he put a dead giveaway in the last sentence.
 

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For those of you that don't get it, he's reversed the genders of a typical sexual harrassment case to make a point. It's really not that clever, and the point seems hardly proven to me.
 

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Nah it's not worth it man, Don't ruin her life just because she's a frisky 'ol lady ;)

EDIT: Crap, Double post, Sorry =(
 

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I started a part-time job at a state agency about four weeks ago, and there is a married woman in her early 50s who works there who is not my direct superior, but is still above me. She appears tired and sulky most of the time, but whenever she sees me she brightens up immediately. She acts flirty every time she talks to me and often gives me compliments on what I am wearing that day. She has grabbed my biceps at least twice before and asked whether I work out.

Yesterday I got a buzzcut, and today at work she unexpectedly came up from behind me when I was seated and ran her hands all over my head and commented how I look like the guy from Prison Break.

Now it's very possible she is being an innocent flirt because she is bored at work and means nothing by it, but I am going to choose to feel violated and offended instead. I am not a sexual object, and I demand to be taken seriously at my job!

Should I file a claim and potentially ruin this woman's long career and marriage?
Sexual harassment complaints are VERY serious for a company. There are a lot of procedures to go through, and the company MUST see them trough by law.

First step if you have to tell her it makes you uncomfortable. After that, go to the person above you and tell them what she does... If she won't stop after she's been touching you and you've asked her kindly not to, then yes, it's sexual harassment
 

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For those of you that don't get it, he's reversed the genders of a typical sexual harrassment case to make a point. It's really not that clever, and the point seems hardly proven to me.
I think it's fairly clever... almost no one gets it.
 

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Brawndo said:
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Yes, why not?
Would it change your opinion if I told you she is only 1 year away from qualifying for pension for serving the state for 15 years?
I'm sorry i do not live in america i did not realise serving the state would exempt/elavte you above the law.
However it is alot easier and more beneficial for you if you talk to her to try and solve it that way, i'm sure she will stop.
p.s. does she look young? Or hot? Because if so it is not sexual harrassment.
 

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lacktheknack said:
theflyingpeanut said:
SanguineSymphony said:
theflyingpeanut said:
Jamboxdotcom said:
ZeroMachine said:
EDIT: Oh, I get it now. You're trolling or trying to make a point.

You're not really good at it.
except that it took almost a whole page before most people caught on. so, he's actually pretty good.
Actually, no one seems to have caught on. This guy is quite excellent.
About three or four have... but yeah its way over most posters' head.
I know. If you listen closely, you can almost hear the sound of a hundred pennies waiting to drop.
I dunno... I've found this entire thread to be quite depressing, actually. The OP is a little too good. Even though he put a dead giveaway in the last sentence.
Maybe we don't care? Even if he's a troll, discussing the hypothetical situation works for me.
He has already gotten his answer anyway, troll or not. Now the rest of us are just discussing sexual harassment in general.
 

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theflyingpeanut said:
Jamboxdotcom said:
ZeroMachine said:
EDIT: Oh, I get it now. You're trolling or trying to make a point.

You're not really good at it.
except that it took almost a whole page before most people caught on. so, he's actually pretty good.
Actually, no one seems to have caught on. This guy is quite excellent.
Think the big hint was when he came to the escapist for legal advice...yeah best place for it
 

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Be the better man and grow up and just tell her enough is enough and that you feel your personal space has been invaded without having to resort to such a greedy silly manner.
 

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Kukakkau said:
theflyingpeanut said:
Jamboxdotcom said:
ZeroMachine said:
EDIT: Oh, I get it now. You're trolling or trying to make a point.

You're not really good at it.
except that it took almost a whole page before most people caught on. so, he's actually pretty good.
Actually, no one seems to have caught on. This guy is quite excellent.
Think the big hint was when he came to the escapist for legal advice...yeah best place for it
Pfft, thats hardly a big hint, people have come to the Escapist with way more serious stuff than this.