Should I file a sexual harassment claim?

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Brawndo

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Kpt._Rob said:
Brawndo said:
LISTEN, why should I have to confront her and talk about it first? It's not fair that I get put in such a embarrassing and awkward situation, because I have done nothing wrong.

I mean, a family friend in his 60s was fired from his six-figure job for patting a female male clerk on the thigh, and she never asked him to stop. Why should I, as a male, have to act differently?
It's not about being male or female. Welcome to life, it sucks and sometimes you have to do shit you don't want to do. Here you have a choice, you can do the right thing, get over the fact that you have to do something awkward, and ask her to leave you be. Or you can take the coward's way out, risk severely hurting someone who may just be oblivious, and have to live with your actions for the rest of your life. It's like you said in your opening post, if you file a complaint, you could pretty much ruin this woman's life. Can you live with yourself if you ruin someone's life? I'm not just asking if you can live with it tomorrow, or next week, I'm saying imagine if she is just oblivious, putting yourself in her shoes, will you be able to live with yourself years from now, after you've carried your guilt with you? Does the minor discomfort you have to face even begin to compare to the tremendous pain that you will be putting this woman in if you file a complaint? You already know it doesn't.

Imagine if you lost everything from all your years of working, ruined your marriage, all because you were doing something annoying without realizing it. Can you really and truly say that you've never annoyed anyone else without realizing it?

Filing a complaint without talking to her first is cowardly, selfish, and immature. It may feel good now, because it seems like the easy way out. Maybe you think you'll even be compensated monetarily for it, though you'll probably get very little even if you win the case. Do those pitiful rewards justify the harm you could cause? Not in the slightest. Unless you're a sociopath, you will end up feeling incredibly guilty if you file a complaint and ruin her life just to make yours a little easier.

To be blunt, if you're really going to file a complaint, you should be downright ashamed of yourself.
Without a hint of sarcasm, I must say bravo sir, bravo. Could you please create a nice brochure with the information in your post and pass it around to every woman currently employed? It could be an eye opener.
 

MasterOfWorlds

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I'd tell her that you feeln that way, but try to be a little more diplomatic about it. If she continues, you'd be more justified since you've given her a warning. That, and the case would hold more water. Also try to do so in front of co-workers so that they can back you up.

On a slightly more upbeat note, she might just be trying to make you feel welcome in a new work environment. She should choose a better way if that's the case though.
 

Canadamus Prime

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Brawndo said:
LISTEN, why should I have to confront her and talk about it first? It's not fair that I get put in such a embarrassing and awkward situation, because I have done nothing wrong.

I mean, a family friend in his 60s was fired from his six-figure job for patting a female male clerk on the thigh, and she never asked him to stop. Why should I, as a male, have to act differently?
Because you're better than that. Because you're mature enough (I hope) to solve your problems yourself without needing to run to "daddy."
 

Realitycrash

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Mechsoap said:
Dunno.... I would be flattered by such attempts to pursue me...
I used to work as a bartender. We usually had an October-fest celebration every year, which meant I had to run around and serve alcohol in tight, revealing knicker-boxers (Very short shorts). I got pinched in the ass at least three times every work-night by drunk, 40+ women.
Trust me, It gets old. Even if they were 20-year old women, I'd be pissed.
 

LetalisK

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Brawndo said:
Now it's very possible she is being an innocent flirt because she is bored at work and means nothing by it, but I am going to choose to feel violated and offended instead. I am not a sexual object, and I demand to be taken seriously at my job!
If you're consciously choosing how you feel, then maybe it's not that big of a deal to you.

Edit: I should read the whole thread before posting next time. Good show, sir. Good show. You got me.
 

Realitycrash

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You know what? Fuck it. Women file claims for men looking at them wrong, so you might as well give a legal slap back.
Yes, this whole "being the bigger person" is so tiresome and immature.

Wait, what?
 

Mikeyfell

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Is she hot 50's or old 50's?

but seriously stop whining, if she's creeping you out ask her to stop.
If you're too cowardly to ask her to stop out right then find a fake girlfriend and introduce the two of them.
 

DuctTapeJedi

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As a female in the construction industry, I've managed to find a fool-proof method of avoiding sexual harassment.

I'm overweight and unattractive.

OT: Just talk to her first. Maybe she doesn't realize she's being a creeper.
Sometimes people don't think. I had an instructor who made a pretty awful joke once, and I just said, half-jokingly, "everyone gets one off color comment per semester. Yours is now gone, and I now have the right to make retaliatory "yo mamma" jokes"

It worked.
 

Realitycrash

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GreatTeacherCAW said:
Realitycrash said:
GreatTeacherCAW said:
You know what? Fuck it. Women file claims for men looking at them wrong, so you might as well give a legal slap back.
Yes, this whole "being the bigger person" is so tiresome and immature.

Wait, what?
How is sitting on your ass and doing nothing being a bigger person? Everytime I hear/see the "bigger person" argument, it just sounds like they're telling the person to back down and cower.
No, but how about having an actual conversation with them first? How does that hurt your cause? THAT's begin the bigger person. Overreacting and screaming "But they do it all the time!" is not.
Not saying he should "sit on his ass", saying he should be a mature, reasonable individual.
 

emeraldrafael

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Tell her to stop first. And have someone around when you do it. Not necessarily right beside you, but just let a buddy know and have them just kinda in the back ground, maybe chat up a conversatoin so they can be placed there and it can be true.

Then, if she doesnt stop, go to a superior, and if she tries to say you didnt, you have witnesses. Though the first step is definitely tell her to stop.
 

idodo35

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is she hot?
JUST KIDING!!!!
ask her to stop then if she continues complain...
 

thethingthatlurks

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If I remember my "training" prior to starting my job correctly, you first have to tell her to stop, then go to her/your supervisor, then possibly consider filing a claim. Failure to follow these steps will result in your claim being dismissed, and you may very well lose your job over it.
 

Realitycrash

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RAKtheUndead said:
Realitycrash said:
Mechsoap said:
Dunno.... I would be flattered by such attempts to pursue me...
I used to work as a bartender. We usually had an October-fest celebration every year, which meant I had to run around and serve alcohol in tight, revealing knicker-boxers (Very short shorts). I got pinched in the ass at least three times every work-night by drunk, 40+ women.
Trust me, It gets old. Even if they were 20-year old women, I'd be pissed.
You haven't spent the entirety of your life knowing that barely any woman is at all attracted to you, and when they are, they're entirely interested in your appearance rather than your personality, have you? It's a lot easier to be flattered by sexual attention when you've pretty much never had any.
"They are entirely interested in your appearance rather than your personality"? How would they see your personality when they are pinching or ass, or like in the case of the OP?
If women are solely interested in you for your appearance, have you really had that little sexual attention?
Still, no matter how much or little you have had, I said "it gets old", and trust me, it will. You might like it at first, but after the third work-night, you probably won't.
 

EasySt17

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No you shouldn't. Why is a lawyer always the answer to feeling uncomfortable. Stop feeding the beast. Use your big kid words.