Should I file a sexual harassment claim?

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Harrowdown

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lacktheknack said:
Harrowdown said:
For those of you that don't get it, he's reversed the genders of a typical sexual harrassment case to make a point. It's really not that clever, and the point seems hardly proven to me.
I think it's fairly clever... almost no one gets it.
Says more about them than him, i'm afraid.
 

v3n0mat3

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Just talk to her. She is only innocently flirting, but if you feel uncomfortable, then tell her. She'll probably stop.
 

SanguineSymphony

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Rascarin said:
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ZeroMachine said:
EDIT: Oh, I get it now. You're trolling or trying to make a point.

You're not really good at it.
except that it took almost a whole page before most people caught on. so, he's actually pretty good.
Actually, no one seems to have caught on. This guy is quite excellent.
About three or four have... but yeah its way over most posters' head.
... I noticed when the OP made his second post. Obvious troll was fairly obvious.

But, on topic anyway, man the hell up. At my work I get touched by men and women coworkers all the time, had my ass slapped, hands on hips, people stroking my back, etc. Deal with it. This is advice I give to men AND women (I'm female) - harmless fun is exactly that. Harmless. Innocent flirting is fun, and importantly; innocent. I hate the attitude of people today where it's general practice to make a mountain out of a molehill. Just... grow up.
People shouldn't over inflate work place flirting. But... If my wife were touched in the manner that you just discribed frequently at work and she looked at it as harmless and fun...

We wouldn't continue being married. And I doubt the intent of the men who initiated that behavior was "innocent".
 

manaman

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MurderousToaster said:
I'd just tell her to back off and if she keeps doing it, then consider getting litigious. It seems to me, although I've never lived there, that you guys over in the States seem to like to throw around claims and lawsuits a bit too soon than is healthy.
Sexual harassment in most areas doesn't require you to tell the other party they are making you uncomfortable. Why should you have to when its entirely possible that doing so can result in you being fired if the offender is your superior? You make the claim and get there superior involved.

OP:To me it sounds like a touch of harmless flirting. Since she isn't your direct supervisor like many say I would talk to her first if that in fact made me uncomfortable.

I say smack her ass the next time she walks by if she responds well, hook up in the supply closet. Once you snap a few pictures you have blackmail material for the remainder of the time you are employed there. Just don't ask for anything to extreme.
 

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lacktheknack said:
That's a lot of effort to put into a reply to a satire. Kudos anyways, though.
Well I'm tired (12 hour shifts in an office without windows tends to wear on a guy) and I couldn't be sure. Anyway, it could prove useful for future reference and maybe someone reading who is in a similar boat.

Wardy
 

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Brawndo said:
LISTEN, why should I have to confront her and talk about it first? It's not fair that I get put in such a embarrassing and awkward situation, because I have done nothing wrong.

I mean, a family friend in his 60s was fired from his six-figure job for patting a female male clerk on the thigh, and she never asked him to stop. Why should I, as a male, have to act differently?
Because, you have to tell her to stop, if she persists, THEN its harassment, without telling her no, you'll get thrown out of court.
 

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Mackheath said:
No. For one reason; you haven't said directly to her you are uncomfortable. So don't become like those American douches who throw the toys out of the pram and bawl whenever they have difficulty in life. Tell her your not interested, and if she keeps going, complain to the management.
We have a winner. There is nothing else you can, or should, do
 

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Brawndo said:
Now it's very possible she is being an innocent flirt because she is bored at work and means nothing by it, but I am going to choose to feel violated and offended instead. I am not a sexual object, and I demand to be taken seriously at my job!
You lose any right to claim sexual harassment because you have stated that you choose to feel violated and offended. If you choose to feel offended, you could just as easily choose to not feel offended, so the onus is on you to simply change your mind.
 

Fetzenfisch

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Dont become part of the problem pal.

Rainboq said:
Brawndo said:
LISTEN, why should I have to confront her and talk about it first? It's not fair that I get put in such a embarrassing and awkward situation, because I have done nothing wrong.

I mean, a family friend in his 60s was fired from his six-figure job for patting a female male clerk on the thigh, and she never asked him to stop. Why should I, as a male, have to act differently?
Because, you have to tell her to stop, if she persists, THEN its harassment, without telling her no, you'll get thrown out of court.
hopefully so and with a nice cash fine for misusing the legal system.
 

Wintermoot

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did she your your junk? no then tell her to stop, if she still keeps touching your spec,s go to your boss
 

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RAKtheUndead said:
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If women are solely interested in you for your appearance, have you really had that little sexual attention?
Affirmative. I'm not even particularly attractive. It's just the outliers who tend to be interested in my appearance. Perhaps they think that they can get nobody else (not even "better", just "else"). I feel sympathetic towards them if they honestly believe that.
I'm not going to deny that being objectified is at times gratifying, but if you allow it to happen at work (unless you work as a stripper), you have crossed a rather unnerving line.
 

Rascarin

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SanguineSymphony said:
People shouldn't over inflate work place flirting. But... If my wife were touched in the manner that you just discribed frequently at work and she looked at it as harmless and fun...

We wouldn't continue being married. And I doubt the intent of the men who initiated that behavior was "innocent".
I don't know if it changes the relevence of my earlier remarks to clarify that I work in a gay bar, so not exactly a "normal" workplace environment.

But I guess it just comes down to knowing the intent behind the action. In my case, the crowded conditions behind the bar kinda cultivates very friendly, hands-on relationships. Probably doesn't translate well to the "real" working world. But some people are more touchy than others - in my case, I know it's innocent. In the OP's case, it seems like he's making a big deal out of nothing.

Obviously, it's something that has to be viewed on a case-by-case basis, because every individual and their interactions are different.

/ramble. I have no idea if any of that made any sense.