Skyrim Hearth Fire DLC Leak

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The_Lost_King

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SajuukKhar said:
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I said from what we have heard. Learn to read. Plus there were about 4 mods in oblivion that only added houses. How is my belief unfounded?
Becuase, you are claiming that, from the information we have been given, those things are only things in the DLC. Which nothing presented thus far supports.

The information we have supports a claim of "purchasable land and buildable houses are in the DLC", not "purchasable land and buildable houses are the only things in the DLC".

There is a very large difference between the two, and as Dawnguard's description has shown, Bethesda doesn't mention the vast majority of the content in the DLC in the DLC's description, only the very core focus.
Oh my God! Purchasable land?! That make it totally worth it. >.> . We also haven't heard that building a house and purchasable land is it.
 

piinyouri

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How is everyone so easily going to the assumption that if this is true, house building will be the one and only thing in it?
 

Treaos Serrare

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Microsoft's Constant abuse of it's Scrooge Mc'Duck amounts of wealth, to get exclusivity timed or otherwise pisses me off to no end. I really want to read an article one day where a developer tells Microsoft to go fuck itself when it demands exclusivity on a game that comes to their console as well as or possibly to the others. I know it will never happen because it would be bad for "Business" to tell these white collar criminals where to shove it when they make their asinine demands.
 

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Eh I'm lukewarm on it, maybe I'm still reeling from the shitstain that was Dawnguard (seriously fuck the soul carin, fuck that ending, fuck Aeruiels bow in all its underpowered piece of shit "glory", fuck both orginizatios, seriously why the fuck do I still need to prove my self? I'm the fucking dragonborn, I kill fucking dragons, I am the fucking Arch-Mage of the college at winterhold AND the cunting harbinger of the companions AND the killer of the Dark fucking brotherhood, AND the savior of the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD. And while I'm at it fuck all of its stupid fucking fetch quest. The only fucking thing that came out of that DLC that I liked was the fucking crossbows, and that one canyon with the cathedral, but they're not worth twenty fucking dollars! pardon my vulgar tongue.) or I'm still waiting for them to bring back spears and halberds and let me go to war with the Thalmor and enact a scorched earth campaign against them (which I would do with unbridled glee.)
 

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Oh um so I can buy something that I can get in a mod for free? Great.
I really hate it wen people try to use the "MODS ARE FREE" excuse.

You can get everything for free via mods. Shivering isles could be done for free via mods.

does that mean Shivering Isles isn't worth the price? no.
Well this just isn't worth it is it? You can build a house. A buggy house probably. I probably do better with mods. Why would I need this DLC?
It's kind of nice for console gamers, who's only access to additional content is through DLC. I loved Deepscorn Hollow and Dunbarrow cove in Oblivion. Not the deepest DLC, but I was on a 360, and they gave me some cool options well worth the price.

As it's said, anything can be done with free mods. Anything can probably be done BETTER, given enough time, with mods. The mod community puts out many great quest lines, new armors, homes, etc. Just because they can put out great quality things, doesn't mean Bethesda should stop trying. I don't think Bethesda will refrain from doing things, just because a modder can do it better. They wouldn't bother patching if that was the case. Did I ever mention I love paint brushes?
 

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While it was fun to make a house out of objects in Morrowind, the existence of minecraft makes this pretty pointless.
 

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Gettin' real tired of your shit, Bethesda Softworks.
If this is actual DLC, the most reasonable price would be 'free'.
I don't know who in their right minds would want anything like this, considering no matter how much work you put into this house, odds are, it is going to look the same as everyone else's, possibly with some texture differences, at best.
 

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I thought Dawnguard wasn't that bad. Still I'll wait and see what content this brings, I definitely need to see more than a house.
 

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(seriously fuck the soul carin, fuck that ending,
How did you hate the soul cairn?

Also what was wrong with the ending?
The soul carin is an empty, boring slog with nothing more than more fetch quest. It's tedious, arduous, and boring as all hell. It's paced like a water-boarding session, and do I even have to mention "Impatience of a Saint"? The ending is just shit. You kill the big bad, and then the asshole leading the Dawnguard, and he is an asshole, walks in the room, and says something to, Lara? Leana? what ever the boring vampire lady's name is doesn't matter to me at this point, anyways the prick leading the dawnguard whatever his name is says something to boring vampire lady that was so lasting and memorable that I forgot it almost immediately, then the prick doesn't even give you a pat on the pack, or even an acknowledgement of what you did, just MISSION END and it's all over. The entire DLC is pretty much an over-glorified side quest, which would be fine if it was fun, or contained some interesting lore like Knights of the Nine which was a lot like this, but contained an actually decent story that added to the elder scrolls lore, but no not Dawnguard, just vampires come from god rape (which you learn from a quick impersonal exposition dump), and fetch quest. Hell I've had more fun with the side quest in the vanilla game than I did with Dawnguard.
 

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I doubt all it is is building a house, unless this was one of the small cheap DLC's they said they would make along with the bigger ones.

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the prick doesn't even give you a pat on the pack, or even an acknowledgement of what you did,
You made it clear you were not paying even the most basic attention to what was going on, but how can you miss the fact he entrusts you with the use and safekeeping for the weapon of a god?
 

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Knight Templar said:
I doubt all it is is building a house, unless this was one of the small cheap DLC's they said they would make along with the bigger ones.

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the prick doesn't even give you a pat on the pack, or even an acknowledgement of what you did,
You made it clear you were not paying even the most basic attention to what was going on, but how can you miss the fact he entrusts you with the use and safekeeping for the weapon of a god?
I was paying attention, maybe I hit a glitch, but after I defeated the big bad, the leader said nothing to me. I just stood there waiting for a good job or something similar, but all I got was silence, and the guy turning around and walking away. OK he doesn't ask for the bow or anything, but he also didn't even acknowledge that I had it except for a quick "You have the bow of God let's kill vampires." Yeah he's enthralled by it for two seconds, and then he seems to completely forget about it. Maybe he got distracted by a shiny.

Now I also take umbrage with the assumption that I wasn't paying attention, I was. It's just that I don't think that Dawnguard was very good. The most interesting part is when the Arch-Curate Vyrthur talks about Akatosh abandoning him due to something he can't help, BUT! The ramifications of living in such a fucked up theology are never followed up on, or discussed again. It's just an idea that brought up, but dropped quicker than it was brought up. Then you kill him. The idea of a god abandoning, or not even attempting to help your ass and leaving you at the mercy of an evil deity because of a sickness you don't want and can't help is devastating. How can anyone worship a being like that? The answer: By ignoring the hell out the situation apparently. Who wants philosophical questions and high minded discussion in a video game anyways?

I'm sorry for being long winded and throwing a wall of text at you I really am, it's just that I've been with the series since Morrowind, and the games just keep getting more and more simple minded. Just compare the reasons of the big-bads between Oblivion and Skyrim. Mehrunes Dagon believes Tamriel to be a plane of Oblivion that was stolen from him and he's just trying to take back what he believes to be rightfully his. Alduin is trying to destroy the world, because that's just what he's supposed to do. It's slightly alluded to that he feels that mer are inferior to him because he's the firstborn of Akatosh, but it's never really followed up on. It would be one thing if he was only trying to conquer the world because he's the first born of Akatosh, but he's not. He's trying to destroy the world, because it's just what he's supposed to do.
 

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chiggerwood said:
Knight Templar said:
I doubt all it is is building a house, unless this was one of the small cheap DLC's they said they would make along with the bigger ones.

chiggerwood said:
the prick doesn't even give you a pat on the pack, or even an acknowledgement of what you did,
You made it clear you were not paying even the most basic attention to what was going on, but how can you miss the fact he entrusts you with the use and safekeeping for the weapon of a god?

it's just that I've been with the series since Morrowind, and the games just keep getting more and more simple minded.
Simple games for simple minded people. Gotta keep the majority entertained right?
 

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I was paying attention, maybe I hit a glitch, but after I defeated the big bad, the leader said nothing to me. I just stood there waiting for a good job or something similar, but all I got was silence, and the guy turning around and walking away. OK he doesn't ask for the bow or anything, but he also didn't even acknowledge that I had it except for a quick "You have the bow of God let's kill vampires." Yeah he's enthralled by it for two seconds, and then he seems to completely forget about it. Maybe he got distracted by a shiny.
That sounds like a glitch, since he is supposed to talk to you.

Now I also take umbrage with the assumption that I wasn't paying attention, I was.
You couldn't remember the name of the character who follows you and works with you almost the entire DLC. That tends to give a bad impression, however...

It's just that I don't think that Dawnguard was very good. The most interesting part is when the Arch-Curate Vyrthur talks about Akatosh abandoning him due to something he can't help, BUT! The ramifications of living in such a fucked up theology are never followed up on, or discussed again. It's just an idea that brought up, but dropped quicker than it was brought up. Then you kill him. The idea of a god abandoning, or not even attempting to help your ass and leaving you at the mercy of an evil deity because of a sickness you don't want and can't help is devastating. How can anyone worship a being like that? The answer: By ignoring the hell out the situation apparently. Who wants philosophical questions and high minded discussion in a video game anyways?
I apologize for thinking you were not paying attention. This and what follows clearly shows that I was mistaken. Sorry for the offense.
 

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I hope this is the case. It would be awesome - especially if you could make castles and stuff. Still, I loved Dawnguard and I'm looking forward to what they do next.
 

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Even if it is something that's already done by a mod, I'd be all for it if it's actually done in a more intuitive, and user friendly way than some mods would allow.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1404578-i-found-out-what-heartfire-is-about/

So apparently derptemp6698, the guy who leaked info about two Mass effect DLCs, and was right on both accounts, has claimed to have gotten information about Skyrim's next DLc HEarthfire.

"Hearthfire?, the next official game-add on for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim®, has arrived. For the first time in the Elder Scrolls universe, purchase land and build your own home from the ground up - from a simple one-room cottage to a sprawling compound complete with armory, alchemy laboratory, trophy room, and more! With Hearthfire, the possibilities of what you can build are endless."

Is it true? maybe
Is it fake? maybe

but if it is real... all I can say is.... BOUT DAMN TIME BETHESDA.
I really hope there is more to this than just a house building mod with a budget. I don't mind paying $10-20 dollars for what would have once been called expansion packs, like Shivering Isles, Broken Steel, etc., but I do mind paying around the same price for a rather insignificant DLC pack that has been created multiple times to varying degrees of success by modders.