Sniping is officially WORTHLESS in Black Ops

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FlyAwayAutumn

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But, I was playing earlier and it's actually not too bad.

You only have to wait .5-1 sec for it to settle.

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Mazty said:
MW2 sucked ass. Only made sense to presume this one would as well, and looks like I predicted correctly ^^
Actually no, I really quite like it and it is FAR better than MW2. I highly reccomend you rent it or check it out at a friend's house, you might find you like it.

P.S The sniping works fine it only prevents quickscoping, besides that it's good.
 

mark0217

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Mazty said:
But that then means an entire class of weapon is utterly useless on the smaller maps.
And an entire class of weapon (shotguns) is useless at big maps with long distances! OH THE HUMANITY! SCREW TREYARCH AMIRITE?!

To everyone crying about their quickscoping: speak with your wallet and don't buy the game. Case closed. Guess what, if you bought the game and cry about it on the internet, the makers of the game have already won and they just feed on your tears... I mean inflamed discussions to create more and more buzz, which keeps people talking and their tables filled with caviar.
I for one know that my copy will be waiting tomorrow. :)
 

Chrinik

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It isn´t worthless, it just became harder...
And since you brought in the reallife arguement in the first place, the ranges you typically tend to shoot at in COD are so short, a normal shooter whouldn´t even NEED a scope.
And standing still lining up shots? If I was so trigger happy as the COD PCs and bursting out my entire magazine in fullauto because my gun has no recoil, I too wouldn´t stop running and gunning.
 

CopperBoom

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"The correct term is NERF not gimp"

...HA HA HA HA HA!
What a laugh, "Your jargon is not right, mine it".
Oi vey.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
SODAssault said:
Good riddance. Do you know how many times I've been one-shotted by an M40+ACOG at point blank range today before I could get a second shot off with my MP5? Today alone, it's been somewhere between ten and fifteen. Oh, and let me preempt the "lrn2play": I average around 30-10 per game, regardless of play mode. Quick-scoping is bullshit, it breaks the balance of the game by giving a player the ability to score a one-hit-kill at any range without having to aim for the head.
Quickscopers don't go 30-10 so what are you complaining about? Nothing wrong with quickscoping since it takes aim and skill, the aim assist is poorly coded. Isn't giving snipers the ability to kill at close range in one hit part of making it balanced? Because if you it took more than one shot or a head shot (that would just take too much skill) to kill, then a sniper has no chance up close against an automatic gun.
That's the point. they shouldn't have a chance against an automatic gun up close.
 

superspartan004

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so you're complaining because they want you to use the sniper rifles...like sniper rifles...gee who woulda thought, besides the WA2000 in Black Ops is amazing compared to the one in MW2 I went 13-2 with it on WMD earlier
 

Weaver

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Sniping was worthless in Cod4 where I could outsnipe snipers with a machine gun.
 

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Waa waa I can't win with the one strategy I've relied on this whole time, now I'm forced to get good at the game with other weapons that are more fair way waaa waaa why u do this waaaaaa.
 

Phoenixmgs_v1legacy

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bismarck55 said:
That's the point. they shouldn't have a chance against an automatic gun up close.
Even with exploiting aim assist, quickscopers could NOT compete with ARs and SMGs so it's not like quickscopers routinely won close encounters. Quickscopers did win close encounters too often, but the aim assist was the issue, not the quickscoping.
 

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Douk said:
Waa waa I can't win with the one strategy I've relied on this whole time, now I'm forced to get good at the game with other weapons that are more fair way waaa waaa why u do this waaaaaa.
Read the 1st post, I don't snipe.
 

__Anarchy__

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Quickscoping should be gone becasue its fucking stupid, if i have a shotgun and u have a sniper at close range i should win, simple. (the only problem i have with Black Ops sniping is the only 2 snipers ive unlocked, WA2000 and Draganov are pretty shit. mostly the Draganov scope -_-
 

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Sniping was actually sniping back in Call of Duty1 and United Offensive. Back when the maps were bigger than one city block and custom maps were supported better by the community and the developers.

After Call of Duty 2 the maps became too tiny.

Side note. CQC with sniper rifles takes skill on the PC version because if you miss the first 1-2 shots, you are usually dead, if not earlier. Games tend to be faster paced to.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
Douk said:
Waa waa I can't win with the one strategy I've relied on this whole time, now I'm forced to get good at the game with other weapons that are more fair way waaa waaa why u do this waaaaaa.
Read the 1st post, I don't snipe.
It wasn't meant at you directly, but the general backlash against it.
 

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I don't give as shit about no quick scoping, but to be honest, you shouldn't have to play "real life sniper" in CoD. The game is obviously not going for realism, and more importantly, sniping in real life is of course based on having a shitload of patience, which isn't becoming of matches that last up to around ten minutes.

And fix the damn shotguns! I don't want to snipe with thme, but seriously i'm pretty sure (although i have never even held a loaded firearm) that a shotgun operates at a longer range then ten feet. Of course that would be going for realism as well, which I already established doesn't pertain to CoD.
 

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If i may, quickscoping is unrealistic, cheap, and just plain stupid. It takes account of the fact that the game autoaims for you when you scope-in letting you get in one guaranteed hit, which is all you need with a sniper rifle, I can shoot you anywhere and you will die! Besides They haven't fixed so many other stupid things in-game that frankly, break the game for me, the Single-player is too short and the multiplayer is full of assholes who abuse perks and weapons (take for example the witchblade build (Penny Arcade references FTW!)
 

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If you only have to wait for .5-1 second(s) for the scope to settle, I'm fine with that..mostly. 3-5 seconds, hell no. If you've got more than a 1 second delay at the most against another even decent sniper you're dead.
I personally dislike any and all kinds of auto-aim. The gun should aim exactly where you point it, the game shouldn't try to aim for you.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
AzrealMaximillion said:
Phoenixmgs said:
CoD is not a realistic shooter. Why make one play style realistic when none of the other play styles are realistic?
That's an idiotic arguement. CoD has to be somewhat realistic. I'm sorry buy a guy running around popping people in the head with gun meant for tactical head shots is a stupid way of playing the game. And all of the other play styles are somewhat realistic. An explosives guy will set up traps with bombs. Not huck them into streets randomly and hope for a kill. An assuault infantry will go right into the fray. A light machine gunner generally goes after people in narrow pathways to maximize the weapon proficiency.

Don't call CoD a Non-realistic shooter just because the way you want to play isn't how war works IRL.
Numachuka said:
I don't get what you people are defending it for. If you want to go close range choose a close range gun. Also if CoD wasn't at least trying for realism why do they have real guns and places. Ya'know, apart from zombie.
CoD isn't realistic in the least. Running around and pulling a knife out of your ass in an instant while you are running around with a gun that requires 2 hands to use is the opposite of real. You should either SHOOT the guy when up close or knock the guy down with your gun, then SHOOT him. Also, being able to press a button that magically throws a grenade from your ass while holding a 2 handed weapon is nothing like reality either.
Maybe, just maybe, people use knifes in real life to get silent kill. You know the ones that don't cause the sound of gunfire and have people running to where you are to see what happened? I know in real life if I had an AK-47 and a knife in a holster, I can man up and hold the AK in one hand while I stab a guy in the back of the neck. You can even hold a Light Machine Gun in one hand you know. You just hold barrel to the ground while you stab a guy. You also realize that infantry soldiers carry grenades right? They have magical devices that are legitamily called, "grenade carriers". Hell some of these oh so foriegn devices that seem to contain grenades, are attached to this thing that soldiers wear called a "vest".

Your logic is seriously flawed. Of course grenades and knifes don't come out of people's asses. By your logic, if pulling a knife out in CoD is "unrealistic" than I guess people are just pulling the extra clips for their guns "from their asses" too, right?

Just give up the "realism" arguement. It's a war based videogame where ONE THING got nerfed because it was cheap and overpowered. Deal with it.
 

Dango

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Treyarch is making you use weapons the exact way they are meant to be used in every video game in existence! How terrible!