So Brianna Wu's Revolution 60 came out on Steam

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Vigormortis

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I don't really care about whatever 'nontroversy' surrounds the whole affair. I just think the game looks absolutely hideous, both aesthetically and mechanically.

Take that as you will.
 

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I've said it before, but the character designs still bother me. They look as if they were designed by a enthousiastic but untalented 15-year-old mangafan back in 1999. It's pure imitation, with no thought put into why you should - or rather: shouldn't - draw characters in this style.
 

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(I fucking hate how every controversy is "gate" these days ... gates are getting a bad rap!)
I blame doors. They've had it out for gates ever since they got first dibs on announcing a person's arrival to the house.
 

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Dunno, after watching the trailer, it looks 10X better than I expected based on posts in this thread. Not great but looks like someone actually put some effort into making an adventure game (will full voice acting no less).

Certainly no Digital Homicide cash grab. Will I buy it just to spite GG? Well probably not, still good on her for staying in a industry full of people who obsessively hate her. I know I'm not that strong.
 

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Stop extending her 15 minutes of fame. Less than 1000 people bought that game and the reviews seem to mostly be negative.
 

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And of course, it gets negative reviewed bombed into oblivion.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/350200/

While I believe that quite a few of the negative reviews are genuine and are specifically targeting the game; looking at the rest, you start to suspect that these are mostly GamerGaters and alt-righters who have a long-lasting axe to grind with Miss Wu.


OVERALL: Mostly Negative (37 reviews)

Wow, 37 whole reviews. Looking at the reviews themselves, you can see that ,the overwhelming majority actually talk about the failings of this game rather than how bad BW is.
Not really though. While most of them don't talk about Brianna Wu and focus on the game, a lot of their criticisms on the game pretty much fall apart under scrutiny.
 

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Y'know, it always makes me laugh when in some threads we bemoan the poor public image gamers have, and then in other threads we have people saying things like "That'll teach that woman to have opinions about gamers like two years ago!"- like we're all a bunch of fucking rabid attack dogs.

Honestly who even cares. If you wanna play her game play her game, if you don't, surely there are better things you could be doing with your time that review bombing.
I actually looked on the Steam page expecting unfettered vitriol and I thought it would be much worse, it's only "mostly negative", and I don't think anyone can really claim it's a "good" game. Most of the complaints seem rational.

Possibly a Ghostbuster scenario where something that isn't very good tries to hide behind "abuse"?

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Not really though. While most of them don't talk about Brianna Wu and focus on the game, a lot of their criticisms on the game pretty much fall apart under scrutiny.
Which ones specifically? It looks to me like certain people are trying search for abuse to valid their narrative here?
 

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Hawki said:
omega 616 said:
(I fucking hate how every controversy is "gate" these days ... gates are getting a bad rap!)
I blame doors. They've had it out for gates ever since they got first dibs on announcing a person's arrival to the house.
Jim Morrison has had it in for gates since day 1.
 

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Don't you have to buy a game on Steam to leave a user review on that game? Would people really hate-buy her stuff just to review bomb it? I know she pissed off some truly pathetic people, but that would be quite the show of dedication.
Let me tell ye a tale, Zhukov. I once acted on the crew of a play. In this play, the director had chosen to have the two romantic leads both be female. In this particular case and context, I rather think it worked. Of course, we had protesters turning up.
They would shit themselves with rage if they ever saw a Christmas pantomime; I haven't seen a single one where both the prince and the princess weren't both portrayed by women.


If I understand correctly, Revolution 60 was actually liked by critics, though GG hating it is usually a good indicator that the game does something novel.
 

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If I understand correctly, Revolution 60 was actually liked by critics
And how did you arrive at this understanding? Because muh Metacritic has "No score yet, based on 0 critic reviews" for the PC version.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/revolution-60

Let's face it, not even a GJP 2.0 hack is going to further sully their name by signing off on praise for this thing. And anything less would obviously be evidence of the old "aquatic reptilianism" in the eyes of their constituency.
 

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StatusNil said:
maninahat said:
If I understand correctly, Revolution 60 was actually liked by critics
And how did you arrive at this understanding? Because muh Metacritic has "No score yet, based on 0 critic reviews" for the PC version.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/revolution-60

Let's face it, not even a GJP 2.0 hack is going to further sully their name by signing off on praise for this thing. And anything less would obviously be evidence of the old "aquatic reptilianism" in the eyes of their constituency.
I read the reviews for the mobile version.
 

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maninahat said:
StatusNil said:
maninahat said:
If I understand correctly, Revolution 60 was actually liked by critics
And how did you arrive at this understanding? Because muh Metacritic has "No score yet, based on 0 critic reviews" for the PC version.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/revolution-60

Let's face it, not even a GJP 2.0 hack is going to further sully their name by signing off on praise for this thing. And anything less would obviously be evidence of the old "aquatic reptilianism" in the eyes of their constituency.
I read the reviews for the mobile version.
I wouldn't really trust reviews. Theres a lot of politics around the game.

http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Revolution_60/index.html

You know, unless you really believe that the game has literally no flaws and will make you re-examine your philosophy on life.
 

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Here Comes Tomorrow said:
maninahat said:
StatusNil said:
maninahat said:
If I understand correctly, Revolution 60 was actually liked by critics
And how did you arrive at this understanding? Because muh Metacritic has "No score yet, based on 0 critic reviews" for the PC version.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/revolution-60

Let's face it, not even a GJP 2.0 hack is going to further sully their name by signing off on praise for this thing. And anything less would obviously be evidence of the old "aquatic reptilianism" in the eyes of their constituency.
I read the reviews for the mobile version.
I wouldn't really trust reviews. Theres a lot of politics around the game.

http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Revolution_60/index.html

You know, unless you really believe that the game has literally no flaws and will make you re-examine your philosophy on life.
Ha ha, that's a really funny review, I am glad the game made someone so happy!

Kotaku loved it too, unsurprisingly:

http://kotaku.com/i-cant-get-enough-of-this-sexy-sci-fi-spy-thriller-1639887434

With apologies to maninahat... "though Kotaku loving it is usually a good indicator that the game has some tedious politically correct baggage or message associated with it" :)
 

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Here Comes Tomorrow said:
maninahat said:
StatusNil said:
maninahat said:
If I understand correctly, Revolution 60 was actually liked by critics
And how did you arrive at this understanding? Because muh Metacritic has "No score yet, based on 0 critic reviews" for the PC version.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/revolution-60

Let's face it, not even a GJP 2.0 hack is going to further sully their name by signing off on praise for this thing. And anything less would obviously be evidence of the old "aquatic reptilianism" in the eyes of their constituency.
I read the reviews for the mobile version.
I wouldn't really trust reviews. Theres a lot of politics around the game.

http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Revolution_60/index.html

You know, unless you really believe that the game has literally no flaws and will make you re-examine your philosophy on life.
I know there are a lot of politics around the game, but that's precisely why I am more inclined to rely on professional reviews over the reviews made by randomers with chips on their shoulder. I don't think any reviewer has described it as flawless.
 

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maninahat said:
I know there are a lot of politics around the game, but that's precisely why I am more inclined to rely on professional reviews over the reviews made by randomers with chips on their shoulder. I don't think any reviewer has described it as flawless.
I don't know, man. Both those reviews linked (the Kotaku one and the RPGFan one) were so sickeningly sycophantic that I actually vomited a little bit into the back of my mouth.

I mean, I haven't played the game. Who knows? Maybe it's fantastic. It is an iOS game, so I imagine PC players would turn their noses up at it. But the way those reviews were written - I mean, the RPGFan one literally reads like this:

RPGFan said:
I hope the Revolution 60 universe gets the hype and attention it deserves, because it is fertile ground for tie-ins like an animated series, a toy line, and all that other good stuff. The game has no in-app purchases out of respect for players, but Giant Spacekat does have a companion book available for purchase through the Bonus menu called The Chessboard Lethologica. This book contains art, comics, and several backstories. Purchasing The Chessboard Lethologica is completely optional, but after thumbing through it myself, I think it is definitely worth purchasing with the game.
What the fuck? He goes from "the game has no in-app purchases because RESPECT" and then immediately recommends that you buy the companion book, because...it has backstories?

Maybe that guy just really fucking loved the game. But it reads like shilling.
 

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Hard subject to find a principled position on. I don't like people review-bombing a game for reasons unrelated to that game.

But at the same time, it looks completely awful and she clearly doesn't have anything resembling talent as a developer, so people making noise about it because of who she is, is probably more attention than it would get on its own merits.

In the natural scheme of things in a free market, a game like this would just be almost entirely ignored.
 

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I mean they got 44 reviews total, that is less then half the number of posts in the very topic talking about them. Not what I would call "review bombed", especially when the majority seems to be actually talking about what the game is and not "LOL, eat shit OMG!111!!"

No doubt many responded to the game on account of her fame, but she specifically wants it to be a very controversial type of fame so this is plainly inevitable, that being said we are still only talking about a handful of people.
 

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I find it slightly odd that it hasn't yet been reviewed by any professional reviewers (and therefore doesn't have a score on Metacritic), when over the past few years the iOS version received quite a lot of positive press coverage and reviews from some mainstream publications and even won a Game of the Year award (I even saw Dara O'Briain Tweeting about how brilliant Brianna Wu is).

If the iOS version was so brilliant and if the PC version is an improvement on that award winning GOTY, why haven't any of the outlets and reviewers that previously covered the game reviewed the triumphant release of Revolution 60 on the PC?

A complete lack of any professional reviews seems even worse than negative professional reviews, because it makes it seem like the game is so bad and so obscure that nobody wants touch it (not even to give it a negative review and increase their publication's presence on Metacritic), which is in stark contrast to all the positive coverage it had previously received.
 

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Jamash said:
I find it slightly odd that it hasn't yet been reviewed by any professional reviewers (and therefore doesn't have a score on Metacritic), when over the past few years the iOS version received quite a lot of positive press coverage and reviews from some mainstream publications and even won a Game of the Year award (I even saw Dara O'Briain Tweeting about how brilliant Brianna Wu is).

If the iOS version was so brilliant and if the PC version is an improvement on that award winning GOTY, why haven't any of the outlets and reviewers that previously covered the game reviewed the triumphant release of Revolution 60 on the PC?

A complete lack of any professional reviews seems even worse than negative professional reviews, because it makes it seem like the game is so bad and so obscure that nobody wants touch it (not even to give it a negative review and increase their publication's presence on Metacritic), which is in stark contrast to all the positive coverage it had previously received.
Well the obvious answer is that the game was only worth covering in 2014 when Gamergate was young and the controversy was at it's peak.

No one gives a shit about GG now. Or Wu. Or her terrible game. Even trolls don't care given the tiny amount of reviews compared to to number of people who bought it. You don't generate clickbait with things no one cares about.
 

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So a crap game gets crap reviews and that equates to a "vast right-wing conspiracy"? Fascinating. : ^)