So... fat chicks.

[PEWPEWGreenLaser]

". . .since everyone knows that fat girls are unlovable human garbage at whom any sensible bloke would sooner hurl invective than cast a longing glance."

well. . . i mean. . . .

yeah.

I'd hit it.

With the fist of an angry god?

 

[PEWPEWGreenLaser]

". . .since everyone knows that fat girls are unlovable human garbage at whom any sensible bloke would sooner hurl invective than cast a longing glance."

well. . . i mean. . . .


yeah.

I'd hit it.

With the fist of an angry god?

What, a goddess can't do the same job as a god? You can keep your heteronormative misogyny, that's what I say.

I suppose they could, but it's usually the gods that do the smiting.

 

[Alex_P]

McEwan is committing a pretty classic issue-blogger mistake there: taking some random example of a widespread phenomenon and raging against it like it's something special and extreme.

The princess trope in general is definitely... problematic. It's led to a whole host of works where the main female presence is depersonalized. When the woman could be easily replaced with a pile of treasure or a docile farm animal, it's hard to argue that some "objectification" isn't happening.

While the "fattening up" mechanic is novel/kinky/creepy, Fat Princess is pretty much just another free-the-princess narrative, just like many Disney movies and Mario games.

That doesn't mean it should get a free pass on all counts. But it's stupid to hurl a mountain of insults its way like it's the worst game since Custer's Revenge. It's not. I think it's obvious -- hell, even self-evident that it's not.

You can see McEwan stretching really hard to make it out to be a truly heinous, out-there kind of thing. It rings hollow. Especially since her primary accusation -- that the game is trying to depict fat people as ugly and "human garbage" -- doesn't really stick all too well. It's just something she manufactured based on her assumption that the game must be outstandingly vile rather than a mostly-typical pop-culture depiction of princesses and the obese.

... Which isn't to say that mostly-typical pop-culture depictions of princess and the obese can't be problematic. Just that it's ridiculous to attack each one individually rather than (semi-calmly) looking at why all of them together are problematic when taken as a single, culture-defining whole.

-- Alex

 

[Eyclonus]

". . .since everyone knows that fat girls are unlovable human garbage at whom any sensible bloke would sooner hurl invective than cast a longing glance."

well. . . i mean. . . .


yeah.

I'd hit it.

With the fist of an angry god?

What, a goddess can't do the same job as a god? You can keep your heteronormative misogyny, that's what I say.

I suppose they could, but it's usually the gods that do the smiting.

I believe Athena was 1) A goddess of wisedom/common sense, and 2)A War Goddess.
Who smites better than a Deity with a portfolio dedicated to ass kicking?

 

[yourkie1921]

Than why did Kratos kick her ass?

 

[The Wooster]

". . .since everyone knows that fat girls are unlovable human garbage at whom any sensible bloke would sooner hurl invective than cast a longing glance."

well. . . i mean. . . .


yeah.

I'd hit it.

With the fist of an angry god?

What, a goddess can't do the same job as a god? You can keep your heteronormative misogyny, that's what I say.

I suppose they could, but it's usually the gods that do the smiting.

I believe Athena was 1) A goddess of wisedom/common sense, and 2)A War Goddess.
Who smites better than a Deity with a portfolio dedicated to ass kicking?

She also burst out of Zeus' god damn head after he ate her when she was just a baby. ***** was hardcore.

 

[PEWPEWGreenLaser]

". . .since everyone knows that fat girls are unlovable human garbage at whom any sensible bloke would sooner hurl invective than cast a longing glance."

well. . . i mean. . . .


yeah.

I'd hit it.

With the fist of an angry god?

What, a goddess can't do the same job as a god? You can keep your heteronormative misogyny, that's what I say.

I suppose they could, but it's usually the gods that do the smiting.

I believe Athena was 1) A goddess of wisedom/common sense, and 2)A War Goddess.
Who smites better than a Deity with a portfolio dedicated to ass kicking?

A War Goddess. Meaning one of the many war deities! Where as MARS/ARIES is THE God of War (Until Kraytos comes along and goes all kung-fu on his ass...) Besides, everyone knows men are angrier and more likely to smite.

 

[Eyclonus]

First of all if Kratos is so awesome, Why does he have to prove his worth every time the gods need someone "Reminded" about the way things are supposed to be?
And Aries was her retarded brother...
She was about strategic warfare and cunning tactics, He favours the classic barbarians R.R.P.B. Raid, Rape, Pillage and Burn.

 

[Jumplion]

She was about strategic warfare and cunning tactics, He favours the classic barbarians R.R.P.B. Raid, Rape, Pillage and Burn.

What better way to leave your mark and say "Don't screw with us!"?

Though in Roman mythology (Mars) he's actually portrayed as a smart man who is respected while the Greek mythology (Ares) is portrayed as a coward. So it depends on which culture you're referencing.

God i love greek mythology.

 

[yourkie1921]

First of all if Kratos is so awesome, Why does he have to prove his worth every time the gods need someone "Reminded" about the way things are supposed to be?

Because the gods are pillocks.

 

[Eyclonus]

So returning to point at hand, maybe the blogger should have a signed affadavit from Zeus that she has proven her worth as an obese, ignorant, pretentious hippotamus?

 

[PEWPEWGreenLaser]

So returning to point at hand, maybe the blogger should have a signed affadavit from Zeus that she has proven her worth as an obese, ignorant, pretentious hippotamus?

Lets not forget the last time Zeus went gallivanting around as creature of the bovine persuasion...

 

[Eyclonus]

Generally most of his gallivanting about as an animal lead to many cases of Greek boys and girls being exiled for zoophilia....

 

[PEWPEWGreenLaser]

Generally most of his gallivanting about as an animal lead to many cases of Greek boys and girls being exiled for zoophilia....

Exile you say. Then maybe a visit from Zeus is in order... So long as he doesn't pull any of that creepy golden "rain" shit that he does from time to time...

 

[Torment40]

I knew the instant I saw the headline, the person writing this is at least going to have reached 'Anti-revolving door' status and she didn't disappoint. Humourously enough, I didn't actually start laughing at the fact the Adorable Princess was fat untill she pointed it out and said it will inspire hate....it will now you've bitched about it!!!

 

[Zeddicus Zhul Zorander]

Wow, why does she even care? If I were in her place I would think it beneath my notice, and not worthy of my time. I saw those "fat people are beautiful" comments. Well, guess what, I've had more than my share of twinkies and I sure as hell am not beautiful (or handsome, rather). And what's so great about diabetes? heart disease? high-blood pressure? Yeah, death by corpulence is sooo beautiful. GET HEALTHY PEOPLE!

And the feminists just need to get over themselves. No, women as a whole aren't better than men. No, men as a whole aren't better than women. There are some men and women who are better at things that are usually associated with the opposite gender. Big fucking whoop dee doo. Seriously, it's kind of carried over from racism. People aren't what their gender or race are. People are what they earn with the sweat of their brows. I choose Rapture. What about you?

 

[The Wooster]

Wow, why does she even care? If I were in her place I would think it beneath my notice, and not worthy of my time. I saw those "fat people are beautiful" comments. Well, guess what, I've had more than my share of twinkies and I sure as hell am not beautiful (or handsome, rather). And what's so great about diabetes? heart disease? high-blood pressure? Yeah, death by corpulence is sooo beautiful. GET HEALTHY PEOPLE!

And the feminists just need to get over themselves. No, women as a whole aren't better than men. No, men as a whole aren't better than women. There are some men and women who are better at things that are usually associated with the opposite gender. Big fucking whoop dee doo. Seriously, it's kind of carried over from racism. People aren't what their gender or race are. People are what they earn with the sweat of their brows. I choose Rapture. What about you?

If it comes down to a choice between gender equality and being murdered, eaten and possibly raped by genetic modification addicts in an underwater city/tomb then sorry but fuck women.

 

[Torment40]

If it comes down to a choice between gender equality and being murdered, eaten and possibly raped by genetic modification addicts in an underwater city/tomb then sorry but fuck women.

Yeah...wait what? The whole destruction of Rapture was caused by the greed of Ryan and Fontaine afraid to say, and the hypocrisy of their ideologies, there is no way that Gender Equality would result in a civil war unless the Nazi Party is resurrected by Zombie Hitler in a scene similar to that of the beginning of Medieval 1.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I suppose they could, but it's usually the gods that do the smiting.

I believe Athena was 1) A goddess of wisedom/common sense, and 2)A War Goddess.
Who smites better than a Deity with a portfolio dedicated to ass kicking?

There was also Ariadne, Demeter, Artemis, Frija, Shiva, Devi, Durga, Nike, Morrigan, Dunad, Buddha, Eris, Erinyes. Hell hath no fury like a godess scorned.

And let's not forget Margaret Thatcher(Falklands), Condoleeza Rice(Gulf), Indra Nooyi(Pepsico), Cynthia Carrol(Environmental damage), Anne Maculahy(Xerox)