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Good lord! Look at all these people talking about MARRIAGE and possible genetic outcomes for CHILDREN! Are you guys serious?! Have you all never been seventeen?

Hey, OP. Here's the real answer to your perfectly legit question: you're seventeen. I'm sure you're sure your feelings are clear and intense. But you're seventeen. When you're seventeen, lots of things are new and exciting and lots of decisions feel like they're crucial, life-changing, and massively important. But they aren't!

There is a 10% chance that any romantic relationship at your age will outlast 1 month. A 1% chance that such relationship would survive 1 year. Relax and have fun. Make sure you don't trap yourself in anything that could affect your long-term life (disease, pregnancy, injury, commitment). And above all else, DON'T TELL ANYONE. I mean, why would you? You would gain nothing and lose something (familial respect, emotional stability, whatever).

I was once unfortunate enough to be seventeen. I had my share of firsts: first loves, first forbidden loves, first lost loves. Each time I bumped into another "first," I thought it was the most important thing in my life, and I KNEW that it would last forever. It didn't. They never did. Attraction grew into infatuation which, when satisfied, bred comfort. Comfort led to boredom, and boredom became contempt. Sometimes it was a month, sometimes it was a year. That's what it is to be seventeen.

So go to the movies! Go shopping! Make out a little if you really must! But don't make plans, don't make promises, don't damage your future, and don't say a word.
 

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Douk said:
awsome117 said:
Love is love is it not. Although me personally, I find it a bit... weird (sorry if that sounds offensive :/) no one can stop you from having a relationship. So by all means, go for it.
love is love but is teenage love, love? That is the question that I think OP needs to look at.

Its a huge risk genetically and socially so you need to make sure you really want to spend forever together.
Actually genetically the risk is very low, unless you have a history of genetic disease or illness the chances of this happening are still 0%. Massive misconception here, A level biology taught me well. The fact here is that, if you got married to someone normal take that % chance of disease, and double it to get what would happen if you were CLOSELY RELATED. The OP said they were not related by blood at all. She was adopted in. People should stop using this arguement, its just wrong.
 

ShadowsofHope

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Who gives a flying fuck. If you love each other, and there's no distinct blood relation that may severely complicate any further action.. go wild. None of us on here can tell you what or what not to do. Love is love, unless your a 40 year old man with a 12 year old girl. Then, well.. you get my point.

There is the matter of concern with family and reactions from them, but that's just something your going to have to face and talk with them about at some point. Mind as well be sooner than later.
 

Sacman

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sirkai007 said:
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I think you are young and being flooded with hormones that make you go nuts. I know I was there. You don't think as rationally when that's going on. It's hard to see all the consequences of this very clearly.

What you need to do is weigh the consequences that you can see. What will this do to your family life, odds of the relationship being successful, social ramifications and so on.
I know what the consequences are but it's just that... I don't care. I truly care about her and I want to be with her. I can't guarantee it will work out and I can't guarantee that either of us will be happy in the end but the only thing that I can say for certain is that I will try my best...
 

Danallighieri

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Who am I to judge, the blood relation is really barely there at all so I think it's fine, and as people've said, give it a lil' time before telling the family would probably be best
 

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Rubashov said:
sirkai007 said:
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How close of a cousin? Genetically, at around 4 or 5 it's okay, just a social taboo.
This, theres no reason why not, you people find it disgusting for no reason at all other than social taboo. Ask why for a second. Youve been indocrinated to dislike it and to even go so far as to persecute those who do JUST because youve been told so. It disgusts me the level of hate some people have because they willingly accept that "because im told X is Y anyone that disagrees is disgusting". There is no logical reason why you should dislike this.

I personally wouldnt do it as i have no cousins and i would be persecuted by society. But i have no issues with those that do.
I'm a Mormon. Why can't I have multiple wives? Why is that so awful that there are laws against me marrying and taking responsibility for more than one woman and the children I have with them? If polygamy is bad then this is worse.
You can't have multiple wives because some polygamist sects have created abusive environments for people who join and/or are born into them. Lawmakers have irrationally extrapolated that the crimes of these particular sects are the result of polygamy itself rather than the extreme social isolation that has tended to accompany polygamy. Polygamy is not inherently bad; it is simply illegal. Marrying a fifth (possibly sixth?) cousin is not.
This isn' something made illegal just recently.

Polygamy was made illegal in 1890 in the United States when Utah (then called the state of Deseret) was petitioning for statehood. One of the conditions for admittance was that the Mormons stopped consecrating plural marriages. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (presently the largest sect of "Mormons" and the one to which I belong) stopped in accordance with federal law. Dissenters with this decision moved to southern Utah and northern Arizona and Started the FLDS sect. This is the group that people erroneously associate with the guys that ride bikes in shirts and ties and knock on your door and to tell you about the Book of Mormon.
 

Sacman

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Douk said:
awsome117 said:
Love is love is it not. Although me personally, I find it a bit... weird (sorry if that sounds offensive :/) no one can stop you from having a relationship. So by all means, go for it.
love is love but is teenage love, love? That is the question that I think OP needs to look at.

Its a huge risk genetically and socially so you need to make sure you really want to spend forever together.
I'm already a social outcast so why does that matter, and according to studies it's good for the gene pool to occasionally inbreed...
But now that I think about it what would her social life be like... I don't want her to leave it just for me...
 

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Whatever suits you, my father said he liked his cousins when he was younger... but perhaps the social thing is different in different countries.
 

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Since it's not blood relation, it doesn't really matter. Both ethically and practically (genes), it's like two brothers considering dating two sisters or considering dating your brother's wife's sister. Technically she's family, but it ends at technicality.

Socially, yeah, might be a bit of a problem, depends on your family really. Whether to continue it, I'd say yes based on the above. Whether/how to tell the family... I'd say talk to her for a start when you get a chance, then see if you've got someone older in your family who you can trust 100% and tell them/ask their advice.
 

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I had a gut feeling after your previous poll that this was already the case, and my answer from then still stands: No regrets, Carpé Diem!

You live your life the way you feel is right, don't let others tell you different.
Keep social standards into moderation ofcourse, so don't go murder anyone now that i've said that! *grins*
It takes some balls to actually be this open about it in a community like The Escapist.
And about the family, the fact that you can be this open to strangers, makes you strong enough to say your thing to them when the time is right.
 

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BiscuitTrouser said:
Douk said:
awsome117 said:
Love is love is it not. Although me personally, I find it a bit... weird (sorry if that sounds offensive :/) no one can stop you from having a relationship. So by all means, go for it.
love is love but is teenage love, love? That is the question that I think OP needs to look at.

Its a huge risk genetically and socially so you need to make sure you really want to spend forever together.
Actually genetically the risk is very low, unless you have a history of genetic disease or illness the chances of this happening are still 0%. Massive misconception here, A level biology taught me well. The fact here is that, if you got married to someone normal take that % chance of disease, and double it to get what would happen if you were CLOSELY RELATED. The OP said they were not related by blood at all. She was adopted in. People should stop using this arguement, its just wrong.
Well I stand corrected! I should have read the OP more carefully.
 

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Sacman said:
Douk said:
awsome117 said:
Love is love is it not. Although me personally, I find it a bit... weird (sorry if that sounds offensive :/) no one can stop you from having a relationship. So by all means, go for it.
love is love but is teenage love, love? That is the question that I think OP needs to look at.

Its a huge risk genetically and socially so you need to make sure you really want to spend forever together.
I'm already a social outcast so why does that matter, and according to studies it's good for the gene pool to occasionally inbreed...
But now that I think about it what would her social life be like... I don't want her to leave it just for me...
Yeah it might be different for her, but if she's adopted like you said then really the only people who would have a problem with it are conservative parents or ignorant people.

Also remember; if you love something, let it go. That can be taken a multitude of ways, and I don't know which way you should take it but I'm typing it here anyways. :)
 

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Cousin sex? hmmm, kinda weird, but if you really like each other, it seems such a shame for you guys not to be able to be together on account of happening to be related.

The evolutionary origin of incest being a big no-no is that it reduces genetic variety in the population, as the offspring are both from the same bloodlines. From here it has become viewed as socially unacceptable despite the English royal family being incredibly inbred, its a little bit gross if you look back through history.

But look, if you guys really like each other, i think you should go for it. If it was your sister or your mother, then thats a little too weird, but cousins... I guess it's not that bad.
 

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You should watch The Royal Tennenbaums (film) and Arrested Development (TV series). They both portray similar situations: the former has a guy (Luke Wilson) who is in love with his adopted sister and the latter has a guy (Micheal Cera) who's in love with his cousin. The Royal Tenenbaums is quite serious with the situation, whereas Arrested Development is a comedy, but both show the way that the different people attempt to deal with it.
 

Sacman

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Douk said:
Sacman said:
Douk said:
awsome117 said:
Love is love is it not. Although me personally, I find it a bit... weird (sorry if that sounds offensive :/) no one can stop you from having a relationship. So by all means, go for it.
love is love but is teenage love, love? That is the question that I think OP needs to look at.

Its a huge risk genetically and socially so you need to make sure you really want to spend forever together.
I'm already a social outcast so why does that matter, and according to studies it's good for the gene pool to occasionally inbreed...
But now that I think about it what would her social life be like... I don't want her to leave it just for me...
Yeah it might be different for her, but if she's adopted like you said then really the only people who would have a problem with it are conservative parents or ignorant people.

Also remember; if you love something, let it go. That can be taken a multitude of ways, and I don't know which way you should take it but I'm typing it here anyways. :)
I just... I want this to work I do care about her but there are so many things to consider.
 

The Hairminator

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Actually, I think it's great that you've found someone you like, and my only concern is if and when you're going to have children at some point in the future. Now, the risk of genetic diseases and shit is much higher when you are close relatives. -Just think about that before you risk anything. That, and society will most likely look down on you as a family.

It's not gonna be easy.

Also:
 

Sacman

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ScatterBen said:
You should watch The Royal Tennenbaums (film) and Arrested Development (TV series). They both portray similar situations: the former has a guy (Luke Wilson) who is in love with his adopted sister and the latter has a guy (Micheal Cera) who's in love with his cousin. The Royal Tenenbaums is quite serious with the situation, whereas Arrested Development is a comedy, but both show the way that the different people attempt to deal with it.
I loved arrested Development I thought it was great... but I've never heard of The Royal Tennenbaums...
 

WaderiAAA

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If I get it straight you are biologically 5th generation cousins, in which case I don't see any problems with it. If you were second generation it would be a big chance of getting children with handicaps, so I'd advice against it, but fifth is alright. If you are really serious, just go for it. Your parrents might surprise you.
 

Sacman

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drdamo said:
I had a gut feeling after your previous poll that this was already the case, and my answer from then still stands: No regrets, Carpé Diem!

You live your life the way you feel is right, don't let others tell you different.
Keep social standards into moderation ofcourse, so don't go murder anyone now that i've said that! *grins*
It takes some balls to actually be this open about it in a community like The Escapist.
And about the family, the fact that you can be this open to strangers, makes you strong enough to say your thing to them when the time is right.
I knew someone had to have seen through my little poll at one point...
 

Trivun

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Even if she was your sister, it would be fine from a biological and a romantic point of view, the only thing preventing you here is social convention. I say go for it. If you two really do care about each other, then I don't see a problem with it.

And before the flamers start quoting me yelling 'OH NOES!', social convention is the ONLY THING WHATSOEVER that tells us incest of any sort is bad. Biologically speaking, there's no true evidence that it's going to cause problems, and in some cultures incest is considered normal and fine.

I'm not condoning incest in general here, I wouldn't be as fine if it was actually someone and their sister, but cousins is fine, surely? Give me a good reason why not if you disagree.