So, I'm dating my cousin now... Yeah...

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Zersy

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Sacman said:
Okay dude. First don't post your personal life on the internet it's not safe there.

On Topic. You like her and she likes you, your not direct cousins so if you start "hitching the low ride" there's not gonna be serious problems.

All in all, Talk to her about it. or just follow a simple philsophy of life "Do what comes naturally" .
 

Samurai Goomba

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Keep in mind that if you're working under your dad, he can pressure you both through your job and through family (or they can have him act as their agent) to hit you hard. He currently controls both your income AND can make you dependent on the family to live whenever he feels like it (unless you can find another job FAST if he fires you, but in this economy I find that doubtful).

So I would very much recommend keeping your mouth shut.
 

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Sacman said:
So what do you think I should do about the family? and have you ever been in a relationship that your family didn't approve of?

Also, keep in mind that it's legal in California to marry your cousins...
Just because something is legal, does not mean you should do it. You're 17, don't even think of marriage for the next ten years at least. I think what you should do is back off because shit like this carries a large potential of blowing up or biting you in the ass.

That being said, you do what you goto do I guess; but from what you've said, extremely inadvisable.

Edit:

saw this and was rofl
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I am a grizzled 22 year old and can tell you.
Its been a busy 22 years =)

"grizzled" 22 year old... oook there buddy, sure thing.
 

Treblaine

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But you have the same grandparents? Legal or not that's freaking awkward at any wedding with you parents in law also being your uncle and aunt. Unless she's your 2nd cousin and/or once removed which IMHO is not really much of a cousin as that is too genetically distinct. BUT the genetic issue is complex, you need to look at the larger family tree.

And while the genetic risk of any on cousin+cousin offspring is not that bad, but is NOT sustainable, any kid you have is going to inherit a less-than-ideal genetic legacy that results in increased RISK! It's hard to fathom risk but it's not just their life but their own children that they have. Particularly it severely limits who THEY can have kids with for a healthy offspring.

Sure they may be born with 2 eyes and 10 fingers and toes but they may be sickly, weak and prone to infection, a subtle complex of many minor genetic disorders. Just look at the royal families of Europe who married cousins, Our own royal family has till about the 1950's been haunted by a blood disease that never totally went away due to such a narrow family tree.

But this is the age of safe and reliable contraception, even if you do love each other you don't HAVE to have kids. Before you ever consider it, go see a specialist on inherited genetic diseases, and then see another for a second opinion.
 

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Frankly, in my opinion anything beyond the daughter of one of your parents' siblings is not close enough to get worked up about. Even if you were first cousins, from a genetic standpoint, there wouldn't be a problem, unless the cycle was perpetuated over multiple generations.

But that has nothing to do with your family. I have nothing to do with your family. The Escapist and its members have nothing to do with your family. I have no idea how we could possibly give you useful advice. I voted that I would date a cousin, for the record, but honestly, you have to handle this yourself. If the relationship progresses far enough and you really want to make a life together, obviously you'll need to tell your family. Should you tell them now? No idea. You know your family best. I'll just caution you that many teenage relationships don't last for very long, and it might suck if you let your family know you two are dating, it causes problems, and then you break up anyway in a few months.

But hey, maybe your family agrees that you guys are not closely related enough for it to be worth getting worked up over.
 

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Emperor Platypus said:
I know my generalization is rash and I am more than a bit jumpy but I do genuinely care for her. I'm not going to try and push a relationship with her I'll take it at her pace but I can't just dismiss it as a flood of hormones...
Well all I can say to that is that I hope it works out for you guys.

(yea yea, sue me if you want to. The fact that I've never felt the warm embrace of love doesn't mean that I a total sucker for happy endings).
 

Sacman

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Emperor Platypus said:
Sacman said:
Emperor Platypus said:
I know my generalization is rash and I am more than a bit jumpy but I do genuinely care for her. I'm not going to try and push a relationship with her I'll take it at her pace but I can't just dismiss it as a flood of hormones...
Well all I can say to that is that I hope it works out for you guys.

(yea yea, sue me if you want to. The fact that I've never felt the warm embrace of love doesn't mean that I a total sucker for happy endings).
Thanks...
 

lee1287

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erm... Eww. Your family wont like it. I understand why. theres mllions more girls out there.
 

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Treblaine said:
But you have the same grandparents? Legal or not that's freaking awkward at any wedding with you parents in law also being your uncle and aunt. Unless she's your 2nd cousin and/or once removed which IMHO is not really much of a cousin as that is too genetically distinct. BUT the genetic issue is complex, you need to look at the larger family tree.
They don't have the same grandparents; they have the same great-great-great-great grandparents (his grandfather and her grandmother were third cousins). That makes them...fifth cousins, I think.
 

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As long as you don't have kids assuming your "cousin" is a pretty close blood relative, you're in the clear. In my opinion there's nothing oh so horribly atrocious in what you're doing, OP. Bad social taboos are bad, and as long as you're aware of actual real issues and can deal with it, I see no problem.

Most people will end up hating you anyways. Be happy you're not gay and living in some fundamentalist redneck town, hah.
 

Emperor Platypus

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Sacman said:
Thanks...
um you're welcome I guess...

If you don't mind me asking why are you on the interwebs responding to critisism and advice from people while you could be out and about with your new gf?

Or in other words: log off and go and enjoy each others company. (prob the best damn advice I'm gonna give all day/week).
 

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Well it doesn't really bother me what you two do, as long as you are both happy and your children are mutation free
 

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Sacman said:
I loved arrested Development I thought it was great... but I've never heard of The Royal Tennenbaums...
It's a film by Wes Anderson. He also made The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou, Fantastic Mr Fox and a bunch of others. They all have a weird tone, but are very good.

The Royal Tenenbaums is just about a family (the Tenenbaums) who've become estranged from each other, so the father (Gene Hackman) tries to get them all together again and win back their love by pretending to have stomach cancer. Yeah, it sounds pretty grim, but it's a genuinely good movie with lots of ups and downs in terms of mood. I'd recommend it to anyone, despite it's relevance to this topic. It also has an all-star cast: The Hackman, Danny Glover, Owen & Luke Wilson, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bill Murray, Ben Stiller and possibly more.

Even if you don't like many of those actors you should give it a go - The Life Aquatic is probably the only film where I've seen Owen Wilson act (rather than just be type-cast). Wes Anderson gets good performances. Either way, I think you'll enjoy it because you'll be able to relate to the love story in it.
 

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Rubashov said:
Treblaine said:
But you have the same grandparents? Legal or not that's freaking awkward at any wedding with you parents in law also being your uncle and aunt. Unless she's your 2nd cousin and/or once removed which IMHO is not really much of a cousin as that is too genetically distinct. BUT the genetic issue is complex, you need to look at the larger family tree.
They don't have the same grandparents; they have the same great-great-great-great grandparents (his grandfather and her grandmother were third cousins). That makes them...fifth cousins, I think.
OH COME ON!!

That is so ridiculously distant! I mean 50% of people who get married are likely to be that close but simply not know due to no one's family history going that far back, wide and in as much detail. Remember every generation you go back, the number of (grand)parents DOUBLE. So everyone would actually have 2^6 = 64 great-great-great-great-grandparents and if all their descendants have 2-3 children you have a VAST number of those eligible to be your "cousin"

Hell I bet if I looked hard enough I could prove I was the "cousin" of any random Hollywood actor.

That is playing seriously fast and loose with degrees of separation. I mean having the same common ancestor SIX GENERATIONS back very easily the guy could be as Asian looking as Jackie Chan and the girl as Black as Grace Jones. Seriously, in that sense we are ALL COUSINS, every single human being traces them-self back to a single common ancestor, a single grandparent.

OP: Don't waste your time with a geneticist, you barely qualify as cousins. 6 parental generations adds in so much new genetic material. You have no more to worry than any utterly random girl you meet.
 

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Edit: let's get something straight Her Grandmother was the 3rd cousin of my grandfather but was adopted by my great grandparents at a young age and from that point had a daughter than her daughter had a daughter...
Bloody hell. That's barely close enough to qualify as an acquaintance, never mind cousin.

Go for it.
 

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monstersquad said:
How closely related are you exactly? Because I think your family(ies) would find that to be an extremely uncomfortable to be around. But hey youse guys are young, so it's not entirely the end of the world and it sounds like your respective families aren't really that close, if you haven't seen her in a while.
In perspective, I once hooked up with my cousin, but she was my mom's half-brother's stepdaughter (I'm not making this up), so there was no blood relation (not a big deal) but the creep factor was there at least minimally, so we kept it somewhat hush-hush. Also, marrying your first cousin is legal here in Manitoba(Canada) too.
RedPandaMan said:
How close of a cousin? Genetically, at around 4 or 5 it's okay, just a social taboo.
Were not related by blood but we are fairly close due to some adoption that happened farther up the family tree...
Your family really wont like this and I'm even a little on edge about it. But who am I to say that its wrong? If you two are happy then go for it and if the family doesn't approve, then thats their decision.