So, you're a sniper...

[Soods]

I would kill him. Many more children could die if I let him live.

 

[Elf Defiler Korgan]

Wait until night then sneak into where he sleeps and cut his head off with a bayonet... then break my bayonet half way through the job and have to use my spotter's bayonet... later, back at base, I'd try to get my bayonet replaced at the QMs, only to be told it was damaged outside of accepted usage, so I'd have to pony up for a new one.

Which is more or less what happened to a friend of mine. Not saying where he was deployed at the time.

What, you think the only criteria for a sniper is marksmanship?

Hillarity good sir.

 

[bad rider]

Those children could be the next hitler. Better safe than sorry!

 

[Ironic Pirate]

I don't think that was the only reason Saddam surrounded himself with Children...

They kill anyone they closely pass, couldn't I fire just above his head?


You should have made us controlling a predator drone, with the same scenario, in fact, I think I'll do that later.

 

[Altaries]

Use the Hunstman instead.

 

[oppp7]

I love how people find loopholes in these arguments instead of answering the goddamn question.

OT: I'd shoot. As horrible as it sounds, a few children wouldn't be as bad as the hundreds or thousands that the dictator would have killed.

 

[dragonslayer32]

you are s sniper sent to kill a dictator who has committed mass genocide. However, the target is surrounded by children, which you would have to kill in order to kill the target. What do you do?

EDIT - you are using a special round, which the shock alone will kill anyone it closely passes. (which norman 50cal bullets can do) THESE ARE THE ONLY ROUNDS YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN. Time is running out, this is the only public appearence of said dictator and you have to either fire now or let him live.

ANOTHER EDIT - this actually happened, not the sniping part but Sadam used to have children surround him incase of such a situation. A child can be anyone under 16, i don't know about you guys, but i was about 6ft when i was 15.

Also, a child would be anyone under 12 or 13... You hit those teenage years and you've started hitting puberty... Not a kid anymore. At 16 you can drive, legal have sex, and many other options that kids are not trusted with. So I'm going to assume kids are 10-

In England, a child is Legally someone under 16. This is what i am going by.

This isn't a legal question, it's a question of humanity. Are we going after the "Dictator" of England? I doubt a sniper would go "Wel... Legally they be children" It would be "Hm... those are just young kids out there" I'm going by human nature, not the legal system

wow, you really blew that out of context. I am not saying it it a legal question, i was just stating what i believe to be a child.

 

[Lord Honk]

If you're gonna make a mess, make it a big one. Take out the kids, it's for the greater good (and giggles (j/k)).

Also, if he surrounds himself with kids, that can't be a good influence anyway.

 

[MercenaryCanary]

will kill anyone it closely passes. (which norman 50cal bullets can do)

Hahahaha.
No. There isn't really a case of anything like that happening.
You could fire upon said dictator, and still get the proper shot without killing the kids.

Also, I can't stop laughing at the younger Escapists who just go "Yeah, I'd just shoot, I don't care about the kids."

 

[Koeryn]

you are s sniper sent to kill a dictator who has committed mass genocide. However, the target is surrounded by children, which you would have to kill in order to kill the target. What do you do?

EDIT - you are using a special round, which the shock alone will kill anyone it closely passes. (which norman 50cal bullets can do) THESE ARE THE ONLY ROUNDS YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN. Time is running out, this is the only public appearence of said dictator and you have to either fire now or let him live.

ANOTHER EDIT - this actually happened, not the sniping part but Sadam used to have children surround him incase of such a situation. A child can be anyone under 16, i don't know about you guys, but i was about 6ft when i was 15.

No, normal .50BMG rounds do NOT kill people by passing by them. You sir, are an idiot.

Any sniper worth his salt isn't going to have no problem nailing the dictator with out hitting the children. Seriously, putting a round through the man's head would provide a couple of feet of buffer zone between the dictator and said children, so even if the bullets DID do as you describe (And no, no they don't.), they would STILL be pretty well protected.

Even if they weren't? If they're sending you on this mission, there's a damned good reason for it. You and your spotter are going to take the shot as it presents itself: Those are your orders.

So yes, I would.

And yes, you're still an idiot.

 

[minimacker]

I'm sorry, but how is a sniper round shot through the dictator's head supposed to kill the children surrounding him? Maybe the one in front and/or behind him (Depending if it penetrates), but why the ones on the sides? Am I using some kind of fucking idiotic explosive round?
What kind of a sniper am I?

 

[dragonslayer32]

you are s sniper sent to kill a dictator who has committed mass genocide. However, the target is surrounded by children, which you would have to kill in order to kill the target. What do you do?

EDIT - you are using a special round, which the shock alone will kill anyone it closely passes. (which norman 50cal bullets can do) THESE ARE THE ONLY ROUNDS YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN. Time is running out, this is the only public appearence of said dictator and you have to either fire now or let him live.

ANOTHER EDIT - this actually happened, not the sniping part but Sadam used to have children surround him incase of such a situation. A child can be anyone under 16, i don't know about you guys, but i was about 6ft when i was 15.

No, normal .50BMG rounds do NOT kill people by passing by them. You sir, are an idiot.

Any sniper worth his salt isn't going to have no problem nailing the dictator with out hitting the children. Seriously, putting a round through the man's head would provide a couple of feet of buffer zone between the dictator and said children, so even if the bullets DID do as you describe (And no, no they don't.), they would STILL be pretty well protected.

Even if they weren't? If they're sending you on this mission, there's a damned good reason for it. You and your spotter are going to take the shot as it presents itself: Those are your orders.

So yes, I would.

And yes, you're still an idiot.

no sir, you are the idiot. If a 50cal round passes you at high speeds, the force CAN kill you, i learned that from a show on sipers on the descovery channel in which they interviewed a man who's arm got blown off by the force.

 

[vivalahelvig]

Well, i hate children, so imma blow them all to fucking hell with plasmid powered bullets.

 

[dragonslayer32]

will kill anyone it closely passes. (which norman 50cal bullets can do)

Hahahaha.
No. There isn't really a case of anything like that happening.
You could fire upon said dictator, and still get the proper shot without killing the kids.

Also, I can't stop laughing at the younger Escapists who just go "Yeah, I'd just shoot, I don't care about the kids."

there have been cases of this happening actually. people have lost limbs due to the force of a 50cal passing them, and i'm not sure about you, but i think that if a lost limb goes untreated, the person may die.

 

[Koeryn]

you are s sniper sent to kill a dictator who has committed mass genocide. However, the target is surrounded by children, which you would have to kill in order to kill the target. What do you do?

EDIT - you are using a special round, which the shock alone will kill anyone it closely passes. (which norman 50cal bullets can do) THESE ARE THE ONLY ROUNDS YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN. Time is running out, this is the only public appearence of said dictator and you have to either fire now or let him live.

ANOTHER EDIT - this actually happened, not the sniping part but Sadam used to have children surround him incase of such a situation. A child can be anyone under 16, i don't know about you guys, but i was about 6ft when i was 15.

No, normal .50BMG rounds do NOT kill people by passing by them. You sir, are an idiot.

Any sniper worth his salt isn't going to have no problem nailing the dictator with out hitting the children. Seriously, putting a round through the man's head would provide a couple of feet of buffer zone between the dictator and said children, so even if the bullets DID do as you describe (And no, no they don't.), they would STILL be pretty well protected.

Even if they weren't? If they're sending you on this mission, there's a damned good reason for it. You and your spotter are going to take the shot as it presents itself: Those are your orders.

So yes, I would.

And yes, you're still an idiot.

no sir, you are the idiot. If a 50cal round passes you at high speeds, the force CAN kill you, i learned that from a show on sipers on the descovery channel in which they interviewed a man who's arm got blown off by the force.

That doesn't come from a near miss. That comes from a direct hit. Were .50BMG to act as you're describing, the Browning would cause FAR more friendly fire issues than it currently does. The .50BMG cartridge (or the more powerful at range .408Cheyenne Tactical) simply do NOT produce pressure waves of the magnitude you're describing. Having a high caliber round pass by you while it's still super sonic would give you a crack as the miniaturized sonic boom passed by you, it would not kill you, tear your arm off, or make you sneeze blood.

Piss your pants, sure. But not kill you. There is simply zero evidence to back up the internet mythology you are presenting as fact.

 

[xavi]

All stupid technicalities aside, to kill a dictator and sacrifice some kids? I'd do it if I had no connection to those children or him. I'm apparently a highly trusted sniper, so I'm being trusted to do a job. I would have no choice.

 

[dragonslayer32]

you are s sniper sent to kill a dictator who has committed mass genocide. However, the target is surrounded by children, which you would have to kill in order to kill the target. What do you do?

EDIT - you are using a special round, which the shock alone will kill anyone it closely passes. (which norman 50cal bullets can do) THESE ARE THE ONLY ROUNDS YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN. Time is running out, this is the only public appearence of said dictator and you have to either fire now or let him live.

ANOTHER EDIT - this actually happened, not the sniping part but Sadam used to have children surround him incase of such a situation. A child can be anyone under 16, i don't know about you guys, but i was about 6ft when i was 15.

No, normal .50BMG rounds do NOT kill people by passing by them. You sir, are an idiot.

Any sniper worth his salt isn't going to have no problem nailing the dictator with out hitting the children. Seriously, putting a round through the man's head would provide a couple of feet of buffer zone between the dictator and said children, so even if the bullets DID do as you describe (And no, no they don't.), they would STILL be pretty well protected.

Even if they weren't? If they're sending you on this mission, there's a damned good reason for it. You and your spotter are going to take the shot as it presents itself: Those are your orders.

So yes, I would.

And yes, you're still an idiot.

no sir, you are the idiot. If a 50cal round passes you at high speeds, the force CAN kill you, i learned that from a show on sipers on the descovery channel in which they interviewed a man who's arm got blown off by the force.

That doesn't come from a near miss. That comes from a direct hit. Were .50BMG to act as you're describing, the Browning would cause FAR more friendly fire issues than it currently does. The .50BMG cartridge (or the more powerful at range .408Cheyenne Tactical) simply do NOT produce pressure waves of the magnitude you're describing. Having a high caliber round pass by you while it's still super sonic would give you a crack as the miniaturized sonic boom passed by you, it would not kill you, tear your arm off, or make you sneeze blood.

Piss your pants, sure. But not kill you. There is simply zero evidence to back up the internet mythology you are presenting as fact.

Can you read? I ask this as I stated in my reply that I watched a documentary on snipers which said IT CAN HAPPEN! I have just spent 5 minutes looking on youtube for the evidence but sadly, youtube does not have the footage.

 

[open trap]

Id take the shot, dictator is gone and i romoed a bunch of other people along with him.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Wait until night then sneak into where he sleeps and cut his head off with a bayonet... then break my bayonet half way through the job and have to use my spotter's bayonet... later, back at base, I'd try to get my bayonet replaced at the QMs, only to be told it was damaged outside of accepted usage, so I'd have to pony up for a new one.

Which is more or less what happened to a friend of mine. Not saying where he was deployed at the time.

What, you think the only criteria for a sniper is marksmanship?

Hillarity good sir.

Pffft. That's one of his tamer stories. The more hilarious ones are on UN missions. UN Rules of Engagement make everything funnier if you're not there.

 

[TKTom]

Can you read? I ask this as I stated in my reply that I watched a documentary on snipers which said IT CAN HAPPEN! I have just spent 5 minutes looking on youtube for the evidence but sadly, youtube does not have the footage.

How about you just say that you are using an XM109 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_XM109], with Raufoss style rounds. Thus you will kill the people around him. A lot simpler.

And I think that almost any soldier would take that shot. Innocents sometimes have to be killed in the line of duty, there is always a hypocrisy at the centre of war one simply moves past it in order to win. I would take that shot and hope that I have the strength to look their parents in the face and tell them that I killed their children in order to end the suffering of a country.