Sony Slams Wii, 360 For Offering Less Value Than PS3
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My post wasn't to defend, as much as point out, by way of satire, the inappropriateness of comparing consoles on an 'all things being equal' basis, when they've been engineered to different design considerations.perfectimo said:
See also: bidet v. toilet.
I'm essentially platform agnostic.
That "sad format" was the one that made Universal Studios turn around after saying "No we won't support this format." to "We never said anything of the sort, Blu-Ray is better." If anything I'd have to say that HD-DVDs seemed to have been the sadder format having lost the format war.Jarrid said:
I'm convinced Sony is on to something.
It's pricing is a method of idiot-proofing the console. I listen to people (read: Xbox owners) blather on about the PS3 having "no good titles", and doing so with a straight face.
To understand where I'm coming from, imagine someone stood in front of a Ferrari, a Royle's Royce and the Beugati Veron and announcing, in a thick Southern Drawl from the back of his Chevvy Pickup, that Europeans can't make good cars.
To claim the PS3 has no good games is so painfully retarded that it tears a small hole in the universe. LittleBigPlanet alone is a reason to own the PS3, just as you could buy a Wii solely for Wii Sports, let alone the other top titles. The PS3, in fact, has PLENTY of great titles! It didn't have many good games AT FIRST, but the PS3 has actually been around quite a while now, and sticking your fingers in your ears and claiming they only have 5 games to choose from does not make it so.
The slack-jawed morons guilty of the above stupidity will no doubt accuse me of fanboyism, but I can't find a 360 worth buying the console for. Xbox has some tremendously shit games (Halo 3), and some tremendously FUN games (Gears 2), but there's nothing that goes that little bit further - nothing that says "I am the reason you bought this console". If someone where to give me a 360 for free, I could (and would) most certainly have a great time playing on it, but I just don't see the console ever convincing me to buy it; especially not as the PS3 has already 'won' this particular arms-race from my perspective - it was a choice of buying the PS3 or the 360, and I went with the PS3.
People too stupid to accept the PS3 has more games than you can count on one hand are terrified of the "all in" price of the console. They are comforted by the 'cheap' 360, and happily fork out money over and over until they paid more than what the PS3 would have cost. Sony is keeping stupid out by scaring them off. Well done, Sony!
And as a final note; if you want to spend £500 on a 360, good luck to you. I am someone who hates 'extras', so the PS3's approach of putting everything you'll ever need in at the start suits me fine. I realise the 360 is better value if you know you'll never want / need Blue Ray / HDMI / Wireless, etc, but I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
It's pricing is a method of idiot-proofing the console. I listen to people (read: Xbox owners) blather on about the PS3 having "no good titles", and doing so with a straight face.
To understand where I'm coming from, imagine someone stood in front of a Ferrari, a Royle's Royce and the Beugati Veron and announcing, in a thick Southern Drawl from the back of his Chevvy Pickup, that Europeans can't make good cars.
To claim the PS3 has no good games is so painfully retarded that it tears a small hole in the universe. LittleBigPlanet alone is a reason to own the PS3, just as you could buy a Wii solely for Wii Sports, let alone the other top titles. The PS3, in fact, has PLENTY of great titles! It didn't have many good games AT FIRST, but the PS3 has actually been around quite a while now, and sticking your fingers in your ears and claiming they only have 5 games to choose from does not make it so.
The slack-jawed morons guilty of the above stupidity will no doubt accuse me of fanboyism, but I can't find a 360 worth buying the console for. Xbox has some tremendously shit games (Halo 3), and some tremendously FUN games (Gears 2), but there's nothing that goes that little bit further - nothing that says "I am the reason you bought this console". If someone where to give me a 360 for free, I could (and would) most certainly have a great time playing on it, but I just don't see the console ever convincing me to buy it; especially not as the PS3 has already 'won' this particular arms-race from my perspective - it was a choice of buying the PS3 or the 360, and I went with the PS3.
People too stupid to accept the PS3 has more games than you can count on one hand are terrified of the "all in" price of the console. They are comforted by the 'cheap' 360, and happily fork out money over and over until they paid more than what the PS3 would have cost. Sony is keeping stupid out by scaring them off. Well done, Sony!
And as a final note; if you want to spend £500 on a 360, good luck to you. I am someone who hates 'extras', so the PS3's approach of putting everything you'll ever need in at the start suits me fine. I realise the 360 is better value if you know you'll never want / need Blue Ray / HDMI / Wireless, etc, but I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Its called grasping at straws. The PS3 has been one of the largest failures in Sony's history. It is a good machine, but has been marketed and managed very poorly. And a lack of/loss of exclusives goes with this.Nakawa said:
I also like how everybody (Sony, media, politicians) skew/stretch the facts to make themselves look better. Like the little table at the top on the OP. Says you have to pay for a HD on the Xbox, well you do, for a larger one. Comes with a 20GB model (better than Wii). Touts Blue Ray (whoptie shit), Xbox has Netflix. And they don't mention backwards compatibility, because they don't have it, but the other 2 consoles do. Face it Sony, you handled this new console poorly, too late to whine about it now.
And to the poster above me talking about exclusives and one that would cause you to buy a console, that is all up to your opinion, or more generally, the opinion of the gamer. PS3 has LBP and Resistance and... MGS4 (to be released on Xbox, maybe), they lost DMC (mistake) and they lost FF (HUGE Mistake). Xbox has Mass Effect, Gears, Halo Franchise (don't care for it myself, but many a console has been bought for it), Left 4 Dead, Fable 2, Dead Rising, Ninja Gaiden, and Condemned to mention some of the "big" ones. I have no hate for the PS3, I love all gaming platforms, but from a buisness standpoint, the PS3 was a massive failure. Even more so when you consider the success of the PS2 and that is almost outsold the PS3 this holiday. For me, I am 30+ with a high paying job and a very understanding wife, so I can afford to buy (and am allowed to buy) whatever toys I like. I see no reason for me to buy a PS3, yet. I have no doubt that I would enjoy Resistance and LBP just looks like it would get old very quickly, but it does look interesting. After they lost FF13, God of War is the only title that I am saying "maybe" to a PS3. I have 3 friends with both PS3 and Xbox, and they game almost exclusivly on the Xbox. If you have fun on your PS3, more power to ya. But those exclusives don't appeal to every gamer. And to many, are not worth buying a console over.
The argument myself and my friends have all used on this one is "Who doesn't own a PS2?"wgreer25 said:
All of my friends that own gaming consoles own a PS2. Some own a PS3 as well, some own a 360 as well. All have a PS2. We can already play PS2 games; we don't need that ability again.
Yes, I own a PS2, you are aboslutly correct, the vast majority of gamers do, but a next gen console should be an upgrade to your existing console (meaning you can get rid of it). I got rid of my Xbox when I got a 360, because I could play all my Xbox games on it. I got rid of my Gamecube when I got a Wii. I can't get rid of my PS2 if I get a PS3 and that is extremely short sighted of Sony. Well, not really short sighted, but just touts the failure of the PS3, the PS2 is amost outselling their next gen console. If the PS3 had backwards compatibility, the PS3 sales might go up and PS2 might go down. They sacrificed the core intent of their device, games. I don't think anyone will argue that the PS2 is the best console of our time (so far), so why if you make a gaming console would you exclude that HUGE archive of great games (I know, it is to save money, but it has been a huge factor as to why I have not bought a PS3, I'm not having a PS2 and a PS3 hooked up at the same time, it is pants-on-head retarded). If the PS3 fans are going to tout that it is an all-inclusive console (Blu-ray, Wi-Fi, HD, tits and Fire), you are forgeting the most important inclusion... a generation worth of games.Wargamer said:
I will consent that "colossal" failure is inaccurate, but Failure for sure. Sony had the most popular console in the word (PS2) by a factor of about 8:1 in sales worldwide. They followed it up by a botched release of the PS3. Not only that, but they allowed thier biggest competitor to get to the market a year in advance, horrible (of coarse MS kinda shot themselves in the foot with this and released questionable hardwear that liked to RROD, but they at lease came up to the plate and extened the factory warntee to 3 years). It allowed them to entrentch themselves before they could even fight. The president of Sony Entertainment was fired over the PS3 launch debocle. Their own console is almost beating it in sales. A colossal failure, no, but if you are a Sony exec and you look at the PS2, you would call the PS3 a failure, for now. This gen of consoles is going to be around for a good long while, so Sony has a lot of time to catch up some ground. LBP was a good step, but it has been marred with so much controversy now that for their one step forward they may have taken two steps back (the song lyrics and deleting user created content for example).Onmi said:
Like what? As far as I know both of the other present-generation don't have much to offer;gdnvs said:
the Wii has a useless gimmick and the 360 has hardware issue and a lack of good exclusives.
All the gripes Sony has for the XBox this time around are the same ones that Microsoft had for the PlayStation 2 last generation. Who won that war? Sony did.
This time around, it's all in reverse. Sony's touting all their hardware splendor while knocking XBox for what they don't have. Who is winning? XBox 360.
Why? It's all about software when it comes to good consoles and that's what Sony lacks. Little Big Planet is fine (it's ONLY on the PS3, which is definitely a plus for them), but what else is there that is truly good for the PS3 that can't be found on any other systems?
One giant reason why the PS3 sells AT ALL is the fact that they run Blu-Ray. I've talked to several, real-life, non-Internet people who have bought the system for that reason only. "May as well get the PS3 because it can play games, too."
The 360 is a gaming console first and the rest is secondary. A good secondary, I might add.
The PS3 is a hefty, expensive movie playing machine that has a handful of games that are worth buying. ..and by "handful," I mean a very young child's hand.
Anyone who gives a crap about console gaming will have the 360 and not the PS3. ..or you'll get the Wii, but you have to be five-years old or a very, very nervous parent who can barely get the grasp of Sonic the Hedgehog.
This time around, it's all in reverse. Sony's touting all their hardware splendor while knocking XBox for what they don't have. Who is winning? XBox 360.
Why? It's all about software when it comes to good consoles and that's what Sony lacks. Little Big Planet is fine (it's ONLY on the PS3, which is definitely a plus for them), but what else is there that is truly good for the PS3 that can't be found on any other systems?
One giant reason why the PS3 sells AT ALL is the fact that they run Blu-Ray. I've talked to several, real-life, non-Internet people who have bought the system for that reason only. "May as well get the PS3 because it can play games, too."
The 360 is a gaming console first and the rest is secondary. A good secondary, I might add.
The PS3 is a hefty, expensive movie playing machine that has a handful of games that are worth buying. ..and by "handful," I mean a very young child's hand.
Anyone who gives a crap about console gaming will have the 360 and not the PS3. ..or you'll get the Wii, but you have to be five-years old or a very, very nervous parent who can barely get the grasp of Sonic the Hedgehog.