Sony: We Are an Innovative Company

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mad825

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introduction of CD-ROM, DVD and Blu-Ray into gaming consoles.
Cd-ROMs? okay you can have that, but just remember that your only competitor was Nintendo and they are not keen on advance technology.


DVDs? eh, it was foreseen even by the most dumbest technology experts and corporate money grabber.

now, Blue-Ray!?!?! Ha! it's a failure in terms of getting the technology mainstream (for gaming), it wastes so much space and cost far more than regular DVDs, discs are futile since the introduction of internal Hard drives.
 

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Michailov said:
They say that when they've had the same horrible and retarded Controllers since day1? YepYep.

Their controllers is the only reason I own a 360 and not a Ps3 <,<
That makes load of sense. Read what you've typed before you post.
 
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Riku said:
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Well, they're trying at least. And even succeed every now and then. Which is certainly more than what Microsoft and/or Nintendo can hope for.
Are you saying that Nintendo hasn't suceeded in their innovation?
What about:

Shoulder buttons,
Analogue sticks,
Vibration in controllers,
Motion controls.

All of these devices (apart from the recent motion control) have been commonplace within gaming and are now standard.

Look at your controller of choice and think that without Nintendo half of those features wouldn't be there
Perhaps in the past, but they don't seem to have the same motivation these days.
 

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Granted, they've tested new ground (PS1 first real console to use a CD, I think, and they've got the most powerful graphics card in their PS3 console in comparison to every other console) but to say that all the new ground has been good isn't exactly true. I can't honestly say the Eye-Toy was a hit and I can't really say Playstation Home is the type of thing I'd like to see in the future. I also don't understand them claiming themselves as a totally innovative company despite practically stealing the idea for their motion control from Nintendo.

I will also admit that Playstation 3, despite being a power-house, just doesn't work properly sometimes. I'm not sure if it's to do with the Playstation 3 or the developers, but frame lag doesn't happen for no reason. It's also the type of thing that can make or break a game on the PS3. After all, I'd rather get the X-Box 360 version with no frame lag than the PS3 one that does.
 

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I'm terribly sorry for the following:

Sony are very good at breaking new ground! They do so every time someone drops a PS3!
 

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Well hmmm. You could say the Move isn't innovative because of the Wii, but then again there is the Eye toy which was the first successful motion controller anyway's. So you could call it even...

Although I will agree that Blu-ray is the best thing in Gaming at the moment. The unsung hero of data storage letting the PS3 put larger games onto the system without need to flowbreaking disc changing
 

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Michailov said:
They say that when they've had the same horrible and retarded Controllers since day1? YepYep.
Their controllers is the only reason I own a 360 and not a Ps3 <,<
Funny. The only reason I own a PS3 is because of the shitty X360 controller.

mad825 said:
now, Blue-Ray!?!?! Ha! it's a failure in terms of getting the technology mainstream, it wastes so much space and cost far more than regular DVDs, discs are futile since the introduction of internal Hard drives.
There's a lot wrong with this sentence (not counting the fact that it's a run-on sentence). Blu-Ray doesn't "waste" space. People who don't utilize them waste space. It's also more expensive than DVDs because it's newer and holds more stuff. Lastly, I love how you see discs as unnecessary with the invention of internal hard drives since internal hard drives are older than discs.

Back to topic: Sony has the occasional flashes of brilliance, but on average it innovates no more than your average huge multi-national corporation (which means, not a whole lot). So yeah, they're bullshitting people.
 

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People point to the Move and say it's copying the Wii and people point to Kinect and say it's copying the EyeToy...
FargoDog said:
So Sony is essentially saying this..

Isn't simply a tricked out version of this..


I sense shenanigans.
But you don't point out that this...


isn't just a copy of this...


or vice versa. Gaming strives on copying one another.

I think we just need to start focusing on virtual reality.
 

stabnex

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Wrong, and WRONG.

I'll go in order.

CD-ROM: SEGA CD 1991
DVD: 3DO 1993
Blu-Ray they get only because they're bandwagon jumpers who got paid atrocious amounts of money to use it.
EYE-Toy: The entire 1970's.
PSHome: Just a 3D version of Battle.net which I was chilling in for eons before the PS3 was even a developers wet dream and Sega had in the Dreamcast (again w/o the 3D thing, but shut up, its a gimmick).
PS Move: What? Seriously? I don't even need to comment.

Think I'm wrong? Just do the research Sony. The only thing you're good at is sucking at the cock of old technologies or getting reamed with new ones that just happen to work out in your favor. Your dumb luck won't last forever.
 

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FargoDog said:
No.. but Microsoft hasn't made an announcement claiming their 360 controller is incredibly innovative.

...Yet.
Knowing Microsoft they would probably claim that the 360 controller was the first of its kind because it had that center button that you could actually press so that's what made it new.
 

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FluxCapacitor said:
Prediction: This thread fills up with console fanboys quicker than a Lara Croft strip show...
Query: WHERE IS THIS STRIP SHOW YOU SPEAK OF!?

Puzzled query: Why are we talking like HK-47?

Answer: Because its awesome.
 

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mad825 said:
introduction of CD-ROM, DVD and Blu-Ray into gaming consoles.
Cd-ROMs? okay you can have that, but just remember that your only competitor was Nintendo and they are not keen on advance technology.


DVDs? eh, it was foreseen even by the most dumbest technology experts and corporate money grabber.

now, Blue-Ray!?!?! Ha! it's a failure in terms of getting the technology mainstream, it wastes so much space and cost far more than regular DVDs, discs are futile since the introduction of internal Hard drives.
Sony hardly introduced the CD-ROM to the gaming console market. Sega CD (1991), Philips CD-i (1991), and the 3DO (1993) are just examples of consoles that had CDs before the Playstation (1994). DVDs and Blu-Ray isn't as much innovations as they are evolutions of the original CD-ROM, and a natural one at that.

They've brought technologies into gaming mainstream, but as far as I can tell they've never been the first with a groundbreaking new technology (though I may be mistaken there. If so, I'll gladly stand corrected). This is of course talking about the gaming console market as they've been very innovative in other markets, like portable music players, flipping their customers in the name of anti-piracy (rootkit anyone?).

Then again, what can we expect from the man in charge of SCEA's marketing? The day marketing admits they're just a "me too"-company is the day we'll be skiing in Sahara.

Pingieking said:
Lastly, I love how you see discs as unnecessary with the invention of internal hard drives since internal hard drives are older than discs.
The internal hard drives haven't had enough space until the recent years, nor have internet bandwidth and speed been quick enough to dispose of the optical media. With time we might see Blu-Rays be replaced with a flash memory stick of some kind instead, and the majority of the movie sales are made online.
 

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The thing people in here need to realize is that "innovation" has no real meaning. It's an industry buzz word that execs like to throw out there because they know it sounds good. Strictly speaking, Sony does do a lot of innovation, just go look it up (little hint: It just means to change something that's already established). Innovation doesn't mean what people think it means. If the Move does even one thing different from the WiiMotes, then technically speaking, that is innovation. It doesn't even need to be anything good, just changed. What's that? Playstation Move has more buttons than WiiMotes? Well there you have it: innovation at work.

The word that we need to specifically look for here is this: Original. Sony does little of that. Innovation? Sure, plenty of it. But they've introduced very little into the gaming market that wasn't there already. Simply taken something that someone else introduced, and changed it to make it their own product. Sometimes it was for good, sometimes not.

So remember people, he isn't lying, he's just letting you assume that there's more to a word than there really is.
 

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Aedes said:
I wouldn't say innovative, more like improving. Or trying to.

Sometimes, company guys should think before speaking stuffs out loud.
Yeah, his statements make Sony appear more like Blizzard than actually innovating. Not that that's a bad thing, mind you.