Space Marine "Rips Off" Gears of War

[LogicNProportion]

That's only chaos marines, and even then, only that one warband of Iron Warriors from the Ultramarine series.

I thought they all had the gene-seed that was grown inside of them and passed on to keep their genetics clean?

Well, the gene-seed is grown inside them, but the rest of the implants, including the under-armor and armor-interface 'The Black Carapace.' You were speaking of wombs, so I thought you were speaking of the Daemonocubula(sp) or 'Daemon Womb,' which the aforementioned Iron Warriors warband used to breed full-grown chaos marines. (Nasty, nasty details, too.)

Otherwise, the gene-seed for loyalists are placed at the neck and chest.

 

[Madcat75]

There is only one answer to the heretics who gave Space Marine bad reviews and compare it to the generic pile of crap Gears of War .............EXTERMINATUS.

 

[Valkyr71]

There is only one answer to the heretics who gave Space Marine bad reviews and compare it to the generic pile of crap Gears of War .............EXTERMINATUS.

Ive Put In a call to the ordo hereticus and ordo malleus already and they say that officio assassinorum is taking care of the poblem

 

[General BrEeZy]

yeah i was just gonna say, "didn't 40K come before Gears?" lol
its like saying harry potter ripped off twilight, i was all LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[ltbigjohn]

does he mean "tepid" because that describes water when timid would have worked which describes the behavior of something. also needs to check his spelling, and realize that that game steals as much from gears as gears has stolen from any game before it.

 

[Fleaman]

Okay. Look, I get this.

If you look at the two games, you're going to see a lot of burly armored men shooting at toothy grunts, and the aesthetic of grit and impact is much the same between them. But here's where the point that the Warhammer IP predates Gears is relevant. When I played the original Gears of War in 2006, I had no idea what the guns or the enemies were called in-universe, because I just called them "bolters" and "orks". I refered to the game in conversation as "Gears of Warhammer" while nodding smugly. The games do have the same aesthetic; but it's Warhammer's aesthetic. 40K not only had it first, but is in fact characterized and known primarily as its owner. "Grimdark" = "Warhammer".

Alright? So after we get that out of the way, we talk about the gameplay. And I agree that even if the Warhammer IP came first, that's no reason to say that Space Marine the game couldn't have stolen from Gears.

But, look: Gears of War's gameplay is defined by its cover system; if it didn't invent it, it certainly codified it and did it so well that every game afterwards tried to copy it. This and the gritty aesthetic is everything that Gears of War is. Every other component is a convention of third-person shooters. The D-pad weapon select is identical to the one found in Just Cause 2, and is descended from similar systems in much older games, like the Gamecube-era James Bond shooters. Space Marine's sprint via clicking the left stick is actually a different control from Gears, and is something I first saw in Modern Warfare. These things are generic.

Gears of War is all about shooting from, hiding behind, and moving between cover. In contrast, most of the enemies in the singleplayer game charge right at you (and are kind of better at dodging and weaving than I'm used to seeing, even after tons of Left4Dead), forcing you to engage with your melee weapon in a way totally divergent from anything in Gears. The balance of your time with this game is meant to be played surrounded by enemies, not at range. The game does not even let you crouch. You are not in a slow and grim advance, fighting desperately for survival. You are engaging in GLORIOUS BATTLE.

 

[not_you]

Warhammer came first, 40k Space Marines were the first power armoured brick shithouses etc etc. Fuckoff Xbox, fuck off Gears of War fanboys, fuck off...Xbox AGAIN!

Can not agree more....
my favourite part is the fuck off Xbox...

 

[Snoozer]

I don't quite get why people say Space Marine ripped of gears of war. From the art, there are many comparable elements, gothic aspects etc. but 40k is more than 20 years old and was first to include those elements. 40k has much more background and stroy to offer than any other video game ever can. And I saw a monster in GOW that ripped of a 40k tyranid really bad ...

Gameplay? Why?!? I mean every modern shooter ripped of an older shooter if you want. Every strategy game ripped of strategy games. So if the gameplay is alike that is not an argument.
I think Space Marine is rather simular to God of war, most of the time you slay 20 orks in close combat. Not so much a cover based shooter since you can't take cover and shooting is only a supporting action.

 

[RoBi3.0]

That review while pretty dumb and uninspired, only mentioned Gears in one sentence. That is hardly as bad as the OP mad it seem.

I don't particularly like OXM, because for the most part their crap comes off as fanboi blogging. They did give the game a 7 which is a respectable score in my opinion. A game doesn't need to be a fucking 10 to be worth playing or fun.

That being said I find it odd that it got such a high score since the majority of the article was very negative, but that just showcases how poorly written it was. If you thought it was worth a 7 but can't put down in words the good things that make worth that, you are a bad critical writer.

 

[FLOPPY HIPPO]

Wait, you're saying a game ripped off another game! OH MY GOD.

oh wait, games are continuously ripping off each other, taking the good bits of games and incorporating it into their games. Hell if that didn't happen every game made would be shit.

 

[TheAbominableDan]

well herp a derp.
i don't know anything about this game besides some of the artwork and that it's hugely anticipated,but the title alone seems to be a huge piss take on gears of war.

If a game called Lord of the Rings: Holy Knights came out, would you consider it a piss-take on World of Warcraft?

Because Warhammer is to Gears what LotR is to current high fantasy.

I love 40k as much as anybody. I've been playing for 11 years, I have tons of models, tons of books and so on. But Lord of the Rings pretty much created high fantasy. Most concepts that we consider to just be part of fantasy didn't exist before Lord of the Rings.

The same can not be said of 40k. It's backstory is pilfered from all over the place. Yes they took it in interesting directions. But it's hardly all original concepts.

 

[PrinceOfShapeir]

WTF.

Gears of War is a cover based shooter.

Space Marine doesn't even have the ability -to- take cover. And the guns are a piece of crap compared to the chainsword.

 

[bjj hero]

I was joking. You know, because people say Marcus and Dom are butt-buddies

I thought you might be but some other dude spent ages putting forward why spacemarines could never ever be gay. Some people take their spacemarines a little too seriously.

 

[Torrasque]

This is like the creators of Doom running around saying every FPS after Doom, has ripped off Doom, which is of course a silly accusation.
*cough*

 

[Corporal Yakob]

I think the only real similarities you can throw at the two games is that they both involve "Space Marines", chainsaws and gorey death-to a uninitiated observer Space Marine would look like a GOW clone. Of course once you play it, the gameplay, asthetic and backgrounds are completely different.

 

[Wicky_42]

U mad bro?

Seriously though, the reviewer gave it a 7/10 and all his points were more than valid. Could you point me to the place where he said, literally, that its a "gears ripoff"? Maybe im missing it. Because all I can find is this:

At its simplest, Space Marine is a Gears clone with a hair-raising health system which sees you healing by performing execution kills. Given how flagrantly Relic apes the Epic juggernaut elsewhere - weapons are swapped via the same D-pad system - being unable to stick to cover feels unnatural at first, but you soon acclimatise. New cannons and a Fury mode unlock at half-hourly intervals as you progress through corridors and arenas, nabbing Servo Skulls (Warhammer's audio diary of choice) to flesh out the plot's few secrets.

Which is... Well... PERFECTLY VALID AND COMPLETELY FUCKING RIGHT.

TL;DR: Stop whining, write your own review if you disagree, dont write off a reviewer just because he doesnt like a game you do, or rather, just because he doesnt like it as much.

Fucking hell, he gave it a 7/10 for fucks sake. If you seriously think that Space Marine deserves more than that... Jesus.

"D-pad system"?! My laptop has no such thing! And what is this "war gear" thing of which you speak? I'm sorry, perhaps you were referencing some platform exclusive which bears some similarities to this cross-everything bonanza of a kill-fest?

 

[Simeon Ivanov]

I was joking. You know, because people say Marcus and Dom are butt-buddies

I thought you might be but some other dude spent ages putting forward why spacemarines could never ever be gay. Some people take their spacemarines a little too seriously.

Yeah, I read all of them. A gay Space Marine would be interesting though. But I would skip the romantic parts.

 

[Nouw]

Gears clone? Really? I was hoping that reviewers would be more enlightened.

You're right. Space Marine does ripoff Robert A. Heinlein's military science-fiction masterpiece Starship Troopers. See you on the bounce!

Come on you apes! You wanna live-forever?

I always call Starship Troopers the grand-daddy of Space Marines but in this game, the combat is far too slow and close to be called a rip-off.

In Space Marine the combat is so slow?

Compared to Starship Troopers, yes. But those are the first two reasons I thought up of first. The combat scale is too different as well. Look, Starship Troopers=/=Space Marines. They're very different.

 

[Inkidu]

Gears clone? Really? I was hoping that reviewers would be more enlightened.

You're right. Space Marine does ripoff Robert A. Heinlein's military science-fiction masterpiece Starship Troopers. See you on the bounce!

Come on you apes! You wanna live-forever?

I always call Starship Troopers the grand-daddy of Space Marines but in this game, the combat is far too slow and close to be called a rip-off.

In Space Marine the combat is so slow?

Compared to Starship Troopers, yes. But those are the first two reasons I thought up of first. The combat scale is too different as well. Look, Starship Troopers=/=Space Marines. They're very different.

I was talking about the book Starship Troopers. The one where tehy went around in giant mech suits that could leap in the air and shoot nukes.

They could punch and everything too though. If you've not read the book it's kind of hard to explain.

 

[Bebus]

You know how people say X is just another armoured Space Marine game?

Guess where "space marine" came from.

Seriously though, it is impossible to 'rip off' Gears of War.

The game is so damned generic every single 3rd person action game could be accused of the same.