The Avengers and Hawkeye [Mass Opinion Centered]
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I'm not 100% sure, so don't quote me, but I believe the answer to that question is that guns are noisy, a bow is slightly more versatile in range than a single gun is, and above all, you're in more control with a bow. I believe that is why Hawkeye uses a bow rather than guns. Not to mention the arrows are easier to clip add-ons to than bullets would be. He does use guns in the comics, and in the movie once or twice, but aside from Ultimate, he states he doesn't like to use the guns.irishda said:
Tony is smart, as we clearly saw in the movie, he's no tactician. The hulk isn't the brightest fighter either and would be more quick to just smash stuff. Yes he's Bruce, but as stated, Bruce even when in control is a bit more chaotic and wishing to rip limbs apart when he's the Hulk.Syzygy23 said:
Not only is Hawkeye tactical with his shield training, through out the fight, he had the birds eye view of the battle field and gave information to his team mates. The other Avengers have no reason to be at that distance, but Hawkeye does. He's the sniper.
At the same time, you're argument of "They need this requirement" Can literally throw Batman out of the just league. There's no fucking "but" there, if what you say is true for the Avengers, then it's true for the Justice League as well. Batman may have the gadgets and tools and I do like him, but he's not god. The case in point is that he may be easy to take out, but he's doing a lot of damage and is actually assisting his team in several ways. And above that, isn't risking your life kind of the point of being an Avenger? No, the point of being a hero?
The only person I thought was lame was cappy.
Hawkeye was one shotting fools fo days! Cappy emptied about 20 clips into the floor while standing near the red lever, his shield (which is his go to weapon) was largely ineffective offensively and over all never really contributed that much to the fighting ... he was more of a leader.
He was like a general in a war, has a pistol to defend himself but spends 99% of his time telling other folk what to do. Which is kind of stupid 'cos Tony stark and Bruce Banner make cappy look dim, especially since the Hulk was less mindless destruction and more focused aggression (proven when cappy called his name and he looked at him and he wasn't constantly wrecking stuff).
So to summarize, hawkeye was awesome and it was captain America who was plain old useless.
Hawkeye was one shotting fools fo days! Cappy emptied about 20 clips into the floor while standing near the red lever, his shield (which is his go to weapon) was largely ineffective offensively and over all never really contributed that much to the fighting ... he was more of a leader.
He was like a general in a war, has a pistol to defend himself but spends 99% of his time telling other folk what to do. Which is kind of stupid 'cos Tony stark and Bruce Banner make cappy look dim, especially since the Hulk was less mindless destruction and more focused aggression (proven when cappy called his name and he looked at him and he wasn't constantly wrecking stuff).
So to summarize, hawkeye was awesome and it was captain America who was plain old useless.
the thing that bugs me is that he uses a bow.
i mean someone with that level of perfect aim could probably do a lot more damage using guns with customized bullets. the problem non-powered heroes have in the marvel universe (and i don't count cap because he is artificially empowered), at least for me, is that they all have to compete with iron man who is my all time favorite marvel character.
i mean someone with that level of perfect aim could probably do a lot more damage using guns with customized bullets. the problem non-powered heroes have in the marvel universe (and i don't count cap because he is artificially empowered), at least for me, is that they all have to compete with iron man who is my all time favorite marvel character.
Your talking about realism? In a Marvel film? A film where there is a alien invasion which is stopped by God from another world, a Super Soldier who was frozen for 70 years, a guy with extreme anger issues, to the point he becomes a monster and a Billionaire in a Robotic Exoskeleton filled with the best tech in the world? Your argument fell flat right there.SonOfVoorhees said:
The fact is, Both Black Widow and Hawk Eye are 2 of the best agents in the world. so with the help of the above, it pretty much fits, its not as if they are on there own. Also Hawkeye may not have powers, but it was explained at the start of film, he can "see" everything, he has EXTREMELY good vision to the point where he can notice the slightest thing. He is hardly useless.
Black Widow is the most useless, but even then she has some pretty good moments, especially when she managed to take one of the alien weapons.
I'm not sure if I should be offended now or not ?RedBird said:Typical teenage-male reactions? The typical teenage male reaction, I'll have you know, is "Lol boobs", and I resent any other implication.Thedutchjelle said:
Bows are just too impractical in a movie were you have superpowers at the most and actual funking guns at the least.
I mean, If you want stealth, a bow is just fine but once Ironman is blowing shit up all over the place that plan is scrapped so just whip out a gun.
The black guy from Aliens Resurrection is cooler than Hawkeye. Same ability to aim, but with pistols.
I mean, If you want stealth, a bow is just fine but once Ironman is blowing shit up all over the place that plan is scrapped so just whip out a gun.
The black guy from Aliens Resurrection is cooler than Hawkeye. Same ability to aim, but with pistols.
Please don't blame your poor memory on the character. Chris is a fucking idiot in RE5. I find Leon to be better, he starred in arguably the best game in the series and he's got a huge fanbase (thus the recurring appearances). To say he isn't "remarkable" is pretty bad excuse.krazykidd said:
Dude. If Loki has put the magical staff against Tony Stark's head, the Avengers would have lost. But instead, there was a comedic tap where Tony encouraged Loki to try it again due to the Arc reactor in his chest. Also, Stark has died before, and come back. But this present argument is based upon the current movies up till now. I don't care if Stark becomes the next Galactus in the future. This debate indicates that AT THIS TIME, Tony Stark is mortal.Abandon4093 said:
Then perhaps you need to read the Ultimates comics. Because Hawkeye uses both guns and arrows, but he prefers the arrows. And Your favorite marvel character, Iron Man, actually devotes a section of R&D for the development of new arrows for Hawkeye.teebeeohh said:
It's similar to the worlds greatest knife fighter that has killed gun-wielding individuals in the past, and one day, someone takes away his knife and gives him a shotgun. He's still can use the shotgun, but he prefers the knife. There are enough double pistol wielding individuals in the Marvel AND DC universe. Hell, there's a guy called two-gun kid. There we go.
That's weird. Everywhere I go, Hawkeye is just lauded as a total BAMF, and people don't seem to care that Black Widow is "under-powered" considering everything else she has going for her.
I don't think Whedon would have got to make the call on what heroes ended up in the film. That would probably have been a decision among the higher-ups at Marvel made before Whedon was given the reins. They wouldn't risk letting that be a directorial decision on the off chance that he decided to just throw all his favourite characters in.thaluikhain said:
I'd be surprised if the decision to just have one female lead was Whedon's... he usually has several in stuff he does. Eg, firefly had nine characters in the regular ensemble and four were female. As for not giving her anything interesting to do... she managed to get hold of Banner, 'interrogate' loki, defeat
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OT: Hawkeye was a badass. IMO anyone who can take down swathes of alien monsters with just a bow probably qualifies as being just as badass, if not more so than a God/supersoldier/nigh-invulnerable genius of some form doing the same thing.
The whole shooting down the fast-moving enemy aircraft thing without so much as glancing at it was just awesome]/i]. Also did you see the trick shot he did to take down the carrier? He predicted exactly how to fire it to be carried by the wind into exactly the right place. Like a boss.
i wasn't actually thinking about him using pistols i was thinking along the lines of some kind of non-automatic rifles. like a lever-action shotgun because a proper rifle would be kind of a handicap since most superhero fighting takes place at very close ranges and the long range combat is usually done by guys with the destructive power of a small armyGoldhawk777 said:
and i don't really like the ultimate universe, some of the character changes are really neat(this gave "bad ************" nick fury, after all) but the whole thing feels a little juvenile for some reason.