The British Army, Be The Best.

[evilartist]

This guy deserves a medal!

Spoiler

Fuck that. He deserves this:

Spoiler: The Cookie of Win

 

[capin Rob]

Damn, I didn't think Robert Furlong (the canidan) would get his record busted

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Ugh. You people make me sick.

If he had done that anywhere other then Afghanistan you'd all be denouncing him as a murderer.

But no, because he did it in the land-of-people-it-is-officially-okay-to-kill we should all be congratulating him on his marksmanship.

Oh hey, I hear that the Washington snipers [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_sniper] were pretty good shots too. Definitely should of got medals.

You can't 'murder' another soldier during a war. Look at the law, it's right there.

It's not the legality that get's under my skin. Nor even the morality.

It's the hypocrisy.

Tell me, what would your response have been if the original post was about a Taliban sniper killing Brits or Americans from extraordinary distances? Would you have said, "Oh well done that man, I hope he gets a medal"?

Incidentally, I'm not just asking that question for the sake of making a point. I'm actually curious.

I suggest you find out where murder is legal. If you are an executioner, it's legal. If it's in self defence, it's legal. If it's a battlefield, it's legal. So, of course.

See above. Same question to you.

I don't really care either way. I would be equally impressed, maybe even more so considering the British are the probably one of the best trained soldiers in the world. Soldiers die during war, yes I feel sorry for the poor man's family (on any side), but soldiers fight and they die.

 

[Marine Mike]

My head was about to explode, I had to read through 3 pages on a sniper thread before "Lông Trắng du Kich" was even mentioned. Thats Vietnamese for "White feather sniper" which describes Gunny Hathcock. Ever seen the movies where one sniper shoots another through their scope? Hathcock is the only one to ever pull that off. He also advocated the .50 BMG as a sniper round, so you can thank him for the Barrett M82. Greatest sniper ever.

Is that the one that they use to kill tanks?

In WWII the Russians used 14.5mm anti-tank rifles, and Germans used a 13.2mm anti-tank round. The .50 BMG fired by the Barrett would convert to about 13mm, and can pierce almost an inch of steel armor with normal ammunition (almost 3 inches with SLAP rounds). Modern tank armor is too thick so the Barrett is an "anti-material" rifle, effective against anything from people to light armored vehicles.

 

[Jaranja]

Hmmm... very interesting...
Still, it was killing another human being...
Will there ever be a day when humans stop fighting humans, and fight something else, united? >.>
Anyway, good for him, setting a new record.

Correction, he killed a TERRORIST. They don't count as humans, in my eyes.

An insurgent isn't the same as a terrorist. They're a type of rebel, if anything.

Yeah, I thought the article said Al'Qaeda, my apologies.

 

[Kinguendo]

It's not the legality that get's under my skin. Nor even the morality.

It's the hypocrisy.

Tell me, what would your response have been if the original post was about a Taliban sniper killing Brits or Americans from extraordinary distances? Would you have said, "Oh well done that man, I hope he gets a medal"?

Incidentally, I'm not just asking that question for the sake of making a point. I'm actually curious.

Of course you wouldnt, mainly because the Taliban... not the same as a countries army... and also, I dont think the Taliban have medals.

Its not hypocritical at all to support an army and not a terrorist organization, thats like saying people should have been cheering on 9/11 like some people did when Bush did the whole "Mission Accomplished" thing... obviously you wouldnt say that because that is incredibly offensive.

 

[Eggsnham]

Hmmm... very interesting...
Still, it was killing another human being...
Will there ever be a day when humans stop fighting humans, and fight something else, united? >.>
Anyway, good for him, setting a new record.

Correction, he killed a TERRORIST. They don't count as humans, in my eyes.

You were joking about that, right?

Because a terrorist is someone who comes to another country to cause terror, hence terrorist. And there have only been a dozen or so Middle Eastern terrorists.

Not to mention the fact that the whole Vietnam war was a terrorist act.

And yes. A man fighting for his country and beliefs is just as human as you or me. Regardless of how extreme he is about it.

 

[Mcface]

Hmmm... very interesting...
Still, it was killing another human being...
Will there ever be a day when humans stop fighting humans, and fight something else, united? >.>
Anyway, good for him, setting a new record.

Tell the Taliban that. Oh wait.. they would kill you.

 

[mb16]

I have only one thing to say about the British Army:

Spoiler: If you have Irish family members that were forced to move out of Ireland, as I did, because of the IRA then I advise against opening this spoiler.

FUCK IT!

I counter your IRA nonesense with a healthy dose of the SAS. I believe I win this game of Top Trumps.

ever heard of Captain Richard Westmacott? how about Cpls. Howes and Woods?

didn't think so.

Know why? cause their dead *****. IRA got their asses good.

Ever heard of... anyone from the IRA other than that one guy who I cant even remember? Didnt think so because they were petty murderers who no one cares about.

But have a nice day anyway and enjoy the mod wrath coming your way.

[http://s700.photobucket.com/albums/ww3/SevenSons7/?action=view&current=OSH.jpg]

IS CENSORING MY PEOPLE THE ONLY THING YOU KNOW HOW TO DO?

guess what northern island still is.... Ours

 

[Danny Ocean]

My head was about to explode, I had to read through 3 pages on a sniper thread before "Lông Trắng du Kich" was even mentioned. Thats Vietnamese for "White feather sniper" which describes Gunny Hathcock. Ever seen the movies where one sniper shoots another through their scope? Hathcock is the only one to ever pull that off. He also advocated the .50 BMG as a sniper round, so you can thank him for the Barrett M82. Greatest sniper ever.

Is that the one that they use to kill tanks?

In WWII the Russians used 14.5mm anti-tank rifles, and Germans used a 13.2mm anti-tank round. The .50 BMG fired by the Barrett would convert to about 13mm, and can pierce almost an inch of steel armor with normal ammunition (almost 3 inches with SLAP rounds). Modern tank armor is too thick so the Barrett is an "anti-material" rifle, effective against anything from people to light armored vehicles.

Do we still bother with anti-tank rifles now-a-days or is it all missiles now?

 

[Dr. Crawver]

such a hacker

 

[Xorghul]

Hmmm... very interesting...
Still, it was killing another human being...
Will there ever be a day when humans stop fighting humans, and fight something else, united? >.>
Anyway, good for him, setting a new record.

Correction, he killed a TERRORIST. They don't count as humans, in my eyes.

One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.

 

[Mcface]

Hmmm... very interesting...
Still, it was killing another human being...
Will there ever be a day when humans stop fighting humans, and fight something else, united? >.>
Anyway, good for him, setting a new record.

Correction, he killed a TERRORIST. They don't count as humans, in my eyes.

You were joking about that, right?

Because a terrorist is someone who comes to another country to cause terror, hence terrorist. And there have only been a dozen or so Middle Eastern terrorists.

Not to mention the fact that the whole Vietnam war was a terrorist act.

And yes. A man fighting for his country and beliefs is just as human as you or me. Regardless of how extreme he is about it.

Correction, the Taliban are fighting a Jihad. It calls for the eradication of all infidel, foreign and domestic. Soldier and Civilian. You very well can be a terrorist in your own country. Timothy Mcvey anyone? A terrorist is someone who commits acts of terror. Where they do it makes no difference. The Taliban use suicide bombers on civilians, blow up buildings to kill civilians intentionally, the list goes on. They are very much terrorists.

 

[Marine Mike]

Hmmm... very interesting...
Still, it was killing another human being...
Will there ever be a day when humans stop fighting humans, and fight something else, united? >.>
Anyway, good for him, setting a new record.

Correction, he killed a TERRORIST. They don't count as humans, in my eyes.

An insurgent isn't the same as a terrorist. They're a type of rebel, if anything.

The bottom line is that they are being occupied by the US/Brits/Allies. Our objective on paper being to pacify the region and install friendly, or at least "non radical" goverments in the region, and defend them until such a time as we feel they can support themselves. Whether you agree with this plan or not (and I don't for my own reasons) that's pretty much what we're doing.

These insurgents are both Rebels AND Terrorists who are trying to destabilize the goverment we've installed. Right, wrong, or even the correct approach to the problems that spawned this are more or less irrelevent. The bottom line is that he's an enemy in an armed conflict.

Going back to an article here about how they wanted to train our troops to be more sensitive to foreign outlooks and emotional displays and such using RPGs of a sort, I see the whole issue of "OMG, he killed a human being" as being part of the entire reason why you don't do something like this. It's also why when fighting a war, the goverment should invoke emergency powers like in World War II, limit the press for the duration of the conflict, and do whatever is nessicary to demonize the enemy.

Oh sure, in absolute terms he DID kill someone's baby. But at the same time this was as "good" a kill as you get since apparently these guys were armed and everything. Besides this guy also got nearly killed with a shot to his head, and apparently had both arms broken during the war. That sort of puts things into perspective, the conflict isn't entirely one sided.

A medal would be pushing it, but this guy definatly deserves the notation for longest range confirmed kill.

Now if only American Snipers would get motivated. It's gone from a Canadian to a Brit! We need to take the record!

Hey, if I had something that could reach that far I would damn sure have tried... as it stands though my longest confirmed hit was 800 meters with an M16 and ACOG, too bad the damn cartridge isn't powerful enough since he got away (it was a confirmed hit because we tried to find him and found a short blood trail). Effective range of the M16 is 550 meters against a point target.

 

[SnakeF]

I was reading his quotes in my head with a badass, Price-like accent.

Then I read he was from Gloucestershire.

...Could have been worse...could have been Norfolk or Liverpool

Or a geordie, ugh *shudders*

*shocked face* How dare you insult my accent! I challenge you to Pistols at Dawn!

 

[Tom Phoenix]

News of Harrison?s success comes amid concern over a rival insurgent sharpshooter who in a five-month spree has killed up to seven British soldiers, including a sniper, in and around the Taliban stronghold of Sangin.

Could we be witness to a potential real-life rivalry between two efficient snipers?

Anyway, my hat goes off to Harrison, a really impressive achievement. While he was lucky that conditions were as pristine as they were, it is still amazing he managed to pull off those shots.

 

[Mcface]

Now if only American Snipers would get motivated. It's gone from a Canadian to a Brit! We need to take the record!

America seems to go after quantity over quality. (well, over range at least)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h_WVi4yTYA&feature=related 19 kill streak. Friendly AC130 Above!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsA9VtQ_uLg&feature=related

 

[Eggsnham]

Hmmm... very interesting...
Still, it was killing another human being...
Will there ever be a day when humans stop fighting humans, and fight something else, united? >.>
Anyway, good for him, setting a new record.

Correction, he killed a TERRORIST. They don't count as humans, in my eyes.

You were joking about that, right?

Because a terrorist is someone who comes to another country to cause terror, hence terrorist. And there have only been a dozen or so Middle Eastern terrorists.

Not to mention the fact that the whole Vietnam war was a terrorist act.

And yes. A man fighting for his country and beliefs is just as human as you or me. Regardless of how extreme he is about it.

Correction, the Taliban are fighting a Jihad. It calls for the eradication of all infidel, foreign and domestic. Soldier and Civilian. You very well can be a terrorist in your own country. Timothy Mcvey anyone? A terrorist is someone who commits acts of terror. Where they do it makes no difference. The Taliban use suicide bombers on civilians, blow up buildings to kill civilians intentionally, the list goes on. They are very much terrorists.

Regardless, that doesn't make them not human.

 

[Little Duck]

The British army is probably the best trained army in the world, but the American one is the best, dominating in numbers and firepower.

ZOMG Abrams rush haxxor?

I hope they buff training in the next patch to compete with spammers.

I feel like I've just walked into solid stupid.