The PS3 and the 'Yellow Light of Death'

[TPiddy]

54% is not a ludicrous figure my friend.
http://360.kombo.com/article.php?artid=17095

Considering that this was a SURVEY of people who subscribe to the magazine.... it's not a very trustworthy source. Not to mention, you didn't even have to be a 360 owner to participate in the survey. So yeah, 54% is a ludicrous figure and you're a douche for taking this SURVEY as fact.

 

[Raesvelg]

I just find it entertaining that someone found a 0.5% failure rate for a variety of causes to be worth running a story about.

I find it even MORE entertaining that someone else thought it was SIGNIFICANT.

One half of one percent. Dear god, they should definitely extend their 1-yr warranty to cover that one half of one percent that may or may not occur within the first year.

 

[NezumiiroKitsune]

Yeah I knew about this, I've had my PS3 since released and had no issue that cannot be called minor (the occaisonal crash, usually with Oblivion).

There are fixes on Youtube for when the problem relates to the soldering coming loose. However when it's a faulty power supply you have a much bigger problem. The soldering with care is easily remdiable with a heat gun thingy (technical).

I believe Sony remarked that the PS3 failure rate was less than 1%, but that was some time ago and since several sources have lead me to believe it closer to 10%. Nowhere near still the rate of failure with the 360, but this isn't a competition, if your console fails thats tough luck.

 

[TPiddy]

54% is not a ludicrous figure my friend.
http://360.kombo.com/article.php?artid=17095

Considering that this was a SURVEY of people who subscribe to the magazine.... it's not a very trustworthy source. Not to mention, you didn't even have to be a 360 owner to participate in the survey. So yeah, 54% is a ludicrous figure and you're a douche for taking this SURVEY as fact.

No need for name calling. It was actually announced on G4 Tech TV as well. And here is Microsoft's response.
http://gizmodo.com/5344302/microsoft-responds-to-542-xbox-360-failure-rate-claim-doesnt-dispute-it

And by the way, you're contention of 30% is still terrible (that's 1/3 XBox360).
Like I stated in a previous post, I know personally 2 Xbox owners. Together they've had 5 RROD's. That's a 250% rate!!! Pretty horrible.

First of all, your link just proves my point. Microsoft said "the vast majority of our customers" had no problems. Also, no company ever releases their failure rates. MS took the high road by not responding to that shit.

Also, if you know 2 XBox owner's and they've had 5 RROD's, that means that they've also had at least 5 systems, if not more. It's not a percentage of RROD's per person, it's a percentage per system. Since no XBox can survive an RROD, that means no XBox can have more than one, meaning you will never get a percentage higher than 100. Now you're just flaming.

The problem is bad enough without fanboys like you trying to make it seem like it's a complete disaster and that XBoxes are literally blowing up in Wal-Marts across the country. I will admit it was a bad problem, but it was not a complete disaster, as Microsoft's sales can attest to.

 

[Chameliondude]

Actually, if your playstation breaks out of warranty, if its a hardware problem, ie. only sony's fault, they send u a new one, in europe anyway

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

I snap I've had my ps3 ... 19 months! I will now live in constant fear of it breaking! Oh well if it does I'll get the money off and buy a slim.

Have to ask where this 'money off' thing has come from? Dude if your console breaks the support line do not give you the option of paying a bit more for a new console. You get the option to have your console exchanged for one thats the same model.

 

[TPiddy]

Obviously, you are unwilling to take a cue from the company you so obviously love... If you've actually read the article, you should have seen that Microsoft is downplaying talk of actual figures because even if they do discount the 54% rate, a 35% claim is still extremely high...

As for calling me a fanboy, you might want to look into a mirror when you say that. I've done nothing here but present evidence in the form of written articles, all while keeping the high ground, to prove a point. Can you say the same? I never did state that any Xbox has "blown up".

I am an Advertising graduate and as such, am also quite aware of the power that it has over the general masses. Microsoft's purchasing power over advertising space has been nothing short of extraordinary. Kudos to them for carving such a large piece of the video game pie even though their hardware is bunk.

And by your per system logic (as opposed to per person) the rate for the 2 Xbox owners/ 5 RRODs I know is still a whopping 100%... I don't know, that still sounds bad.

Yes, I'm calling you a fanboy because you trumpet any link or article you can get your hands on that puts down the 360, without checking your facts, checking their facts or looking at the other side of the story.

As for your 100%, I'm sure I could find 5 people whose PS3's have had to be repaired and turn around and say the same thing. You can't have such a myopic viewpoint on the subject. Also, it would only officially be 100% if neither of those people have 360's anymore, because otherwise you'd be looking at 5 failures out of 7 consoles. Once again, distorting facts for your own devices.

Nothing you've said is factual in the least. Sure the original article that posted the "54%" failure rate is largely to blame, but people like you who love to quote it and throw it in people's faces are just adding fuel to the fire and that's why I called you a douche in the first plcae.

 

[Megacherv]

I wonder how many PS3's break after warranty or just as the warranty expires. I read somewhere that most Sony products seem to meet a demise just after the coveted warranty expires but is that true?.

I also laughed at the PlayStation Repair Action Team (P.R.A.T.). That's some brilliant piece of acronym choosing.

Nope, mine works fine and dandy.

In Canada, over half the online capabilities of the PSN are non-existent. (I can rent movies on 360, but not on PS3) We only just got PSN points cards this summer.

TO be honest, it's the same for everywhere outside the US and Japan.

 

[TPiddy]

So very sad and typically fanboyish to dismiss evidence and attack through name calling... please present your own actual evidence or stop putting your foot in your mouth by actually trying to speak. "Better to have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt".

I didn't say I took a cross section of Xbox owners with failed systems, I said the only two Xbox owners I know. One of the 2 people's XBox is actually RROD'd right now. So to play by your logic again, it's 5/6 which is STILL a whopping 83%. Still high...

Of the PS3 owners I know (myself included) 0 failures / 4 people (PS3).
That's 0%.

I tire of this obvious flame war. Spew whatever nonsense you will to make yourself feel important, I'm out!

So a SURVEY passes for evidence now? Fantastic... I'm going to go SURVEY a bunch of 360 fanboys and present it as EVIDENCE that the PS3 sucks.

I also stated that no company releases the actual figures, so me providing any evidence as to what the real figures are would just be speculation, which is exactly what you're doing, and that's why I'm not stooping to your level.

 

[ace_of_something]

I snap I've had my ps3 ... 19 months! I will now live in constant fear of it breaking! Oh well if it does I'll get the money off and buy a slim.

Have to ask where this 'money off' thing has come from? Dude if your console breaks the support line do not give you the option of paying a bit more for a new console. You get the option to have your console exchanged for one thats the same model.

I misunderstood. Odd, I thought the model I had was discontinued.

 

[UpcountryGecko]

Anything Microsoft does Sony has to do.

 

[Nieroshai]

Alright, this is really getting to be too much. Concession time: the 360 Elite has a much better survival rate, nearly comparable to the PS3. So dollar for dollar, if you get the Elite, which costs the same as a PS3 Slimline, you'll be alright. Aside from that, s69-5 makes a very good statistical point. Numbers don't lie. However now that the Elite is in the same price range as the PS3, the debate should really be about those two. The only differences between those two from my research: PS3 has slightly better loading time, Blu-Ray, and SIXAXIS, while 360 Elite has better online content and functions, which often tends to be the sole selling point of the 360. Now that Sony stopped making BC consoles, 360 is also the one to go to in order to play vintage games. So with their flaws and bonuses, the PS3 Slimline and the 360 Elite are roughly equivalent except for instannces of personal taste.

But white 360 is trumped by truck-size PS3 ;D

 

[Pendragon9]

Yes, it breaks down. That's kinda what happens to everything.

Let's just be thankful the failure rate isn't something ridiculous like, oh, say 54%.

Also, what the hell OP? Isn't this like, REALLY old news? I've known about the Yellow light since february. Maybe even before.

 

[Spudgun Man]

I find it awfully strange that not a sausage about this came to light until BBC reported on it on watchdog.

 

[Phase_9]

Um, the PS3 "yellow light of death" is actually a general warning light that goes on for any mechanical failure. It has nothing to do with the "red ring of death", and less than 10 percent of PS3 users have suffered a mechanical failure, but Sony doesn't handle it as well as Microsoft because only a minority have suffered the problem, so in retaliation, people have started bandying this rumor about.

 

[Nieroshai]

Anything Microsoft does Sony has to do.

That's how the gaming industry works as a whole. Both consoles are trying to find an answer to the Wii remote, and I'm still not convinced Project Natal is nothing more than a glorified EyeToy. Speaking of Natal, you notice how HUGE the hard drive was on the 360 in Molyneux's demo? I'm led to believe that the demo alone of that fishing kid took a massive amount of memory, because that hard drive was the size of a football! So yeah it's an eyetoy but the game itself is what has the AI. And that AI must take up a terabyte or something...

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Eh, 'Yellow light of Death' doesn't have the same ring to it as 'Red Ring of Death'.