The PS3 and the 'Yellow Light of Death'

[TPiddy]

lets presume even double the number the offically have admitted to have failed.
that 25,000 Consoles have suffered the Amber light failure.

out of 2.5 Million sold.
thats 25,000 out of 2,500,000
that is .01% Of all Sony playstations sold have failed.


that is a nelegable failure rate.

of course to both reports.
They do not run a diognostics on it... so how in the hell can they tell that it is a solder based problem? sure the solder heating softens the connections up and allow it to seat better, however heat also tinkers with a lot of the other components inside a PS3 and it is impossible to say what exactly is fixed, or even if you fixed the correct problem at all.

Umm... 25,000 out of 2.5 million is 1%, not 0.01%..... And 360 failure rates are not the "54%" that PS3 fanboys love to quote based on a fucking SURVEY.

Obviously the PS3 failure rates are much lower than 360, I won't argue that, but they are MUCH higher than 1%. Also, if that's such a negligible failure rate, why won't Sony own up? 360, after experiencing the RROD problem, extended a 3 year warranty on all consoles. And the Elites now have a failure rate of less than 4%. Seems to me Microsoft can admit their mistakes and Sony can't.

 

[Simalacrum]

My PS3 fat died after about 3 years of heavy-handed use (admitedly), my warranty had expired... it kinda pissed me off, honestly. Still, its all about luck, and I know people who have gone through 6 360's, so losing 1 PS3 is lucky I guess in comparison.

My parents think that the quality of products in the gaming industry in general is abismal - not just PS3's and 360's. My response was meh.

 

[Bigeyez]

That sucks. Hopefully if enough of these failures keep happening PS3 owners will get an extended warrenty like M$ did to the 360's that were out of warrenty.

 

[Jindrak]

My PS3 has been going strong since it first came out, surviving numerous drunkard-based accidents. I bought a 360 once. Red ringed in two weeks, took it back, the new one lasted three hours, the next 1 week, the next 2 weeks. After that I got instore credit and bought some more games for my PS3 because it actually seemed to function correctly.

I don't know, but some PS3s malfunctioning out of warranty sucks, but it means that the system lasted long enough to drop out of warranty. Let's see, some malfunctioning out of warranty, or a shitload malfunctioning multiple times in warranty? Easier to take care of, but speaks to worse craftsmanship.

 

[KiLlErCoRn]

Is this more likley to happen to a fat or a slim, seeing as when releasing new hardware there could be faults, or is it just as likely to happen to either, or has it been fixed in the slim?

 

[Redemption003]

My 360 has failed 4 times in 2 years of use, fairly heavy use as well. The same level of usage on my PS3 for a year now and no faults at all. Similar figures for other people I know with both consoles and only one person I know has had a PS3 die on them.

As for the Wii, I am yet to hear of a broken Wii...

 

[DigitalSushi]

Well, atleast it's not like they explode or anything

what like Sony laptop batteries?

fnar fnar!
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/dell-battery-fire.htm
they were Sony batteries by the way, you know, just in case you didn't realise.

 

[DigitalSushi]

Although according to the report, less than less than 1% (that wasn't a typo, btw) have failed in the UK... and they are making a big damn deal about it?

1% is still 12500 disappointed consumers, and Watchdog is a consumer affairs program.

I think the issue isn't just the number of failures, but how much Sony are charging to fix the problem after 12 months.

Seems a bit biased. Why focus on a problem that only affects a fraction of a percent of the install base? Surely it's irresponsible to compare that to a 54% fail rate over on the other side?
These guys took the lazy way out, and looked stupid because of it. When the system you're clearly accepting money from (Xbox360) has a 54% failrate, you talk about ANYTHING else, not invent a barely relevant problem in your competitiors.

You're missing the point, Watchdog isn't entering the console wars and batting for Microsoft, they're reporting in a very real issue in the UK which has affected 12500 consumers, it's not even relevant to compare it to the 360 when the story is about the PS3 and Sony's questionable business practices affecting the consumer.

Also, why would Watchdog, a British consumer affairs program, make a comparison with questionable figures derived from a shoddy poll of American readers of an American magazine?

It's not relevant, and even if somehow relevant to compare the failure rates of PS3 in the UK to the failure rates of 360's in America, that poll is of such laughable validity that it wouldn't be included.
The poll didn't ask which model of 360 had failed, it didn't even require people to have ever owned a 360 to answer in the poll, all they had to be was a subscriber to the magazine to contribute to the 54% failure rate.

I doubt the BBC are taking money from Microsoft, and 12500 failures in the UK isn't a barely relevant problem, neither is the 150 pounds repair cost (which is the real issue), for a consumer affairs program like Watchdog.

I have a total man crush on you, I feel like a teenager again, *looks all gooey eyed*, your amazing.

 

[DigitalSushi]

My 360 has failed 4 times in 2 years of use, fairly heavy use as well. The same level of usage on my PS3 for a year now and no faults at all. Similar figures for other people I know with both consoles and only one person I know has had a PS3 die on them.

As for the Wii, I am yet to hear of a broken Wii...

I broke my power cable on my PS3 and replaced it with a raclette cable from 1982 (changing the fuse to 5 amps) and guess what, the thing works!, I've also had to make a scart lead too because I've had to give mine to my nephew.

 

[RanD00M]

My ps3 got the yellow light once.All i had to do was clean the dust out of it.

 

[Shadowfaze]

it doesnt bother me, i have had my fat ps3 since launch day and i have never had a single problem.

 

[Korey Von Doom]

For everyone saying its hardly a problem, "The problem is mainly thought to affect the 60GB launch model, but Sony repeatedly refuses to release the failure rate for that model, claiming that the information is "commercially sensitive"." meaning it would hurt sales if they released the numbers.

 

[Ninonybox_v1legacy]

Man...i knew sony liked to copy mycrosoft, but...DAMN (Im kidding)

 

[Redemption003]

My 360 has failed 4 times in 2 years of use, fairly heavy use as well. The same level of usage on my PS3 for a year now and no faults at all. Similar figures for other people I know with both consoles and only one person I know has had a PS3 die on them.

As for the Wii, I am yet to hear of a broken Wii...

I broke my power cable on my PS3 and replaced it with a raclette cable from 1982 (changing the fuse to 5 amps) and guess what, the thing works!, I've also had to make a scart lead too because I've had to give mine to my nephew.

Must say I'm pretty impressed by that one...

 

[Jamash]

Spoiler: SNIP

Although according to the report, less than less than 1% (that wasn't a typo, btw) have failed in the UK... and they are making a big damn deal about it?

1% is still 12500 disappointed consumers, and Watchdog is a consumer affairs program.

I think the issue isn't just the number of failures, but how much Sony are charging to fix the problem after 12 months.

Seems a bit biased. Why focus on a problem that only affects a fraction of a percent of the install base? Surely it's irresponsible to compare that to a 54% fail rate over on the other side?
These guys took the lazy way out, and looked stupid because of it. When the system you're clearly accepting money from (Xbox360) has a 54% failrate, you talk about ANYTHING else, not invent a barely relevant problem in your competitiors.

You're missing the point, Watchdog isn't entering the console wars and batting for Microsoft, they're reporting in a very real issue in the UK which has affected 12500 consumers, it's not even relevant to compare it to the 360 when the story is about the PS3 and Sony's questionable business practices affecting the consumer.

Also, why would Watchdog, a British consumer affairs program, make a comparison with questionable figures derived from a shoddy poll of American readers of an American magazine?

It's not relevant, and even if somehow relevant to compare the failure rates of PS3 in the UK to the failure rates of 360's in America, that poll is of such laughable validity that it wouldn't be included.
The poll didn't ask which model of 360 had failed, it didn't even require people to have ever owned a 360 to answer in the poll, all they had to be was a subscriber to the magazine to contribute to the 54% failure rate.

I doubt the BBC are taking money from Microsoft, and 12500 failures in the UK isn't a barely relevant problem, neither is the 150 pounds repair cost (which is the real issue), for a consumer affairs program like Watchdog.

I have a total man crush on you, I feel like a teenager again, *looks all gooey eyed*, your amazing.

Thanks, you're not too bad yourself...

*Remembers he's English*

... Um... I mean for a Frenchy.

*Coughs nervously*

You'll have to excuse me dear chap, I think I can hear my wife calling...

 

[Warrior Irme]

I had my 360 RROD on me about month 18 and got a free replacement about 3 weeks after I sent my console in. My brother's PS3 shut down around the seventh month and it took Sony about the same time to get a new one back to him. Both consoles fail. It is not necessarily the fault of the company as it is with the materials inside that must remain Lead free because both systems are considered toys. If lead solder was used we wouldn't see as many failures in either console.

 

[Finrear]

When I was a kid Watchdog was great, with genuine investigative reporting, exposing scams and rogue businesses etc. Now it just seems to be some rabble rousing crap with a thinly disguised advert for some console repair guys (who by their own figures have a 1 week repair rate of 45%).