Timothy Plan Updates "Do Not Buy List" of Videogames for the Holiday Season

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Islandboy2

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They have the right to do this i think, but saying that the 50-cent game is more family friendly then Persona 4 tells me that they pretty much have their heads up their ass.
 

ShadowsofHope

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Ultratwinkie said:
Cliff_m85 said:
lacktheknack said:
Cliff_m85 said:
"If you kill in order to save your child".

Read the Bible, dude. Remember a little story about 'god' asking a man to kill his son to prove his faith? Yeah, he was down for that test. God's all about the murder. Especially murder of the young.
Problem with that... no child was murdered. God stopped the murder before it could happen. Wanna choose a less embarrassing example?
Let's ignore that 'god' psychologically tortured the father, making him believe that he would have to kill his son and only stopped him at the last moment.

Fine, a more blunt example. Certainly. Global flood that obviously would include infants/children. That ok? Or perhaps him murdering every first born child of Egypt? Take your pick. *shrugs*
Flood = It killed EVERYONE because they were being dicks.
Which is curiously remarking that God interfered with the free will of human beings to act a certain way in order to make things the way he prefers it instead, negating that free will in the process..

OT: I personally think they are ignorant idiots for some of the things they put as "reasons" for not buying the games, but.. *Shrug* Not going to adversely harm me in any way with my gaming, so let them do whatever the heck they want. When they start (IF) attempting to force everyone else to conform to the same restrictions, then I will kindly tell them to fuck off.

Until then..
 

Blind Sight

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I'm cool with this, but it kind of annoys me that they says it deals with 'moral content/issues' like their morals are the only ones that actually mean anything. Gasp, a vest? How immoral.

lacktheknack said:
Cliff_m85 said:
"If you kill in order to save your child".

Read the Bible, dude. Remember a little story about 'god' asking a man to kill his son to prove his faith? Yeah, he was down for that test. God's all about the murder. Especially murder of the young.
Problem with that... no child was murdered. God stopped the murder before it could happen. Wanna choose a less embarrassing example?
Sure, I'll bite, but this isn't an attack on religion or anything, just a friendly comment. How come it was perfectly acceptable for God to kill the innocent first sons of Egypt during Exodus, but it's seen as evil when Herod does the exact same thing during the Nativity stories in the New Testament?
 

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I remember covering these guys when they slammed games for including GLBT content. They just seem more and more like people who are determined to hate anything that doesn't fit within their narrow worldview.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/12/moral-money-managers-now-slamming-games-for-glbt-content.ars
 

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At the time I'm posting this, they're doing maintenance on the site, but when this comes back up, seems like the Timothy Plan is to videogames what this site is to movies. Enough craziness in this site to kill an afternoon.
http://www.capalert.com/capreports/
 

VampiresDontSparkle

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Okay, let's get one thing straight:

To all those people saying "there's half-naked ladies on billboards so not letting your kids play games with them is POINTLESS!!" -- what is wrong with you? Are you seriously saying that just because something is readily available in public, you shouldn't try to stop it from occurring in your own home (if you believe it is wrong)?

Okay, then. Drugs. Drugs are easy to get outside my house. I suppose that I should also have them lying around at home as well, then? >.>

What about swearing? If I don't want my kids to swear, but everyone at their school swears, I suppose it's a lost cause. Maybe I should just play rap music really loudly all the time at home.

See my point? If parents truly think half-naked ladies are bad for their children to see, then they talk to them about it and instill the same belief in them. Obviously parents can't change what might happen in public, but they can control what happens in their own home, and they should.

OT: The website is sane, reasonable, and seems useful.
 

Islandboy2

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The site might be useful for parents, but they probably shouldn't be buying their kids M rated games in the first place. I think the thing people have a problem with is the obvious bias and the people who are obviously ignorant about video games.
 

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Well, he's already won. We're talking about him aren't we? There's no such thing as bad publicity.

EDIT: OT: I can understand where he's coming from, but consider yourselves Trolled.
 

Blind Sight

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Ultratwinkie said:
1st child dying = That was a side effect of a chain of events starting with the 1st plague. The uppermost layers of grain were infected with a disease (forgot the name) harmless to adults in small doses, and in Egyptian custom the 1st born and the best livestock get twice the amount of food than everyone else. They get the "best" grain which was on the top. The double dose of disease proved too much for the under developed immune system of the children and the immunity of the animals and they died. Proven by science. If the granaries were better protected from outside elements and disease it would have never have happened.
Sorry man, I'm a bit late into the debate, but are you arguing that the Exodus story actually occurred? You seem to be using science so I assume you're not going for a complete Biblical interpretation. If so, I'm just wondering how that's possible when there's no evidence to support the argument that the Jews were enslaved in Egypt during any of the time that they lived there in large numbers after the Kingdom of Judah was destroyed in 597 B.C.E. There's also no evidence of a mass migration of Jews later on, in both Egypt and within the Sinai area. Also, the Egyptians have no account of the event in their history, nor do they have any account of the first born sons dying. Even some of the earliest Jewish documents we've found negate the exodus story, it only emerges hundreds of years after the Jews re-established themselves in Canaan. In fact, the exodus story is probably just a Jewish adaptation of a similar Egyptian story that predates it about a man named Sinuhe, who had a very similar history to that of Moses. I'm just saying that your science may hold weight, but the history disagrees, and thus the event should be taken as fiction.

Now, in a fictional context, God does specifically target the innocent first sons of Egypt, a morally questionable thing to do. But then again, most of the Old Testament has God acting in very questionable ways, including arguing for the genocide of certain ethnic groups, such as the Canaanites. He even says to kill the women, children and even the animals in Deuteronomy (I believe it's Deuteronomy, not entirely sure because I haven't read my Bible in a couple months. Yes, I'm an atheist who reads the Bible, I like to be informed).

Bebopcola2021 said:
At the time I'm posting this, they're doing maintenance on the site, but when this comes back up, seems like the Timothy Plan is to videogames what this site is to movies. Enough craziness in this site to kill an afternoon.
http://www.capalert.com/capreports/
Thank you for that, their Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas article is hilarious, if Hunter S. Thompson wasn't ash scattered across a field he'd probably rise from the grave just to fuck with these people.

"If one were to take all the pages of the Bible which present any guidance on personal behavior and tape them to a large wall then throw a couple hundred darts at them, it is likely each dart would point to a Chapter/Verse which has applicability to the behaviors in this movie. Except murder and suicide. There were no murders or suicide noted in it. Foul and vulgar language thundered at about 72 per hour, more than once per minute with God's name in vain at an identical rate, mostly with the four letter expletive. Use of the most foul of the foul words outnumbered the use of the rest of the three/four letter word vocabulary nearly four to one. Illegal drugs formed the quintessential presence in this movie with more than 88 examples per hour of illegal drug possession or use, consumption of them, offering of them or coercion with them, or intoxication with and hallucinations from them."

Damn, they're making that sound like its a bad thing haha.
 

Islandboy2

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Whenever you put science or history into the bible, the conversation falls into stupidity.

The bible isn't a science or a history book, its the BIBLE!
 

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Awesome, i know where to direct people if they ask for good games, i'll just say 'anything on this list here *link to timothy's*'

:p
 

manaman

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Something in these comments is not like the other...

Oh found it!

Generic Gamer said:
Well honestly that sounds admirable. They're informing parents about unsuitable content in a non confrontational way and not looking to get that content banned.
Where is the angry rant that has little to do with the actual news post? You are breaking the flow man. Harshing the vibe here.