To all you homophobes: Why?

[Drummerstixz]

Homophobia sometimes stems from ones own fear/suspicion of being gay oneself. A repression kinda thing.

I fail at explain (and grammar, probably)

Like saying that you hate animals and love steak because secretly you wish to suckle the teat of a cow as its calf and allow wave after milky wave of sexual ecstasy to overflow in your mouth like a fountain of life and nutrition?

Because I totally know what you mean if so.

I...wow...I'm...wow LMAO

 

[bkdlsf89990]

It is very disgusting. I don't understand why anyone would want to be gay, other than curiosity, which is often very betraying. I digusts me to think about homos having sex *shudders*. I am Christian, but the reason I condemn it is because it is disturbing and nasty and... and... you get my point. Its disgusting.

Quickly! You're not safe here! Flee! Flee while you still have a chance!

 

[joystickjunki3]

Ugh, to all you posters who wonder why someone has a prejudice: When will you understand that some people just hate things for no apparent reason? Also, maybe they have justified opinions in their own worlds. I just don't get why so many people expect everyone to act in a way they themselves find rational. Your reasonings don't always work for everyone because they are personal beliefs.

Did anyone think to consider that maybe you're the crazy ones? I'm not saying homosexuality is something I condemn, but please try to look at things from both perspectives.

And to that guy in the beginning of this thread who said that most homophobes are Christians: nice spelling, clearly you are a highly educated individual to be passing judgement on others as such, and homophobes extend far past those religious boundaries. My guess would be that the Middle East is the most homophobic culture in the world, and that's not a predominantly Christian area.

So you just think we should accept that people hate a certain group of people for no reason apart from the fact that the group of people are different and had been from birth.

People can't rationally hate something for no reason because it goes against being rational, thats not just my opinion, its fact.
Besides, i'd prefer not to be able to spell than to be a bigoted asshole.

My argument was not that hatred for no reason was rational, but that people who consider themselves to be rational may not actually be rational. 500 years ago it was rational to think that the Earth was flat or that the Devil's Third actually summoned the Devil. Today, both of those assertions are considered crazy. 500 hundred years from now our own rationalizations may also be considered crazy. To consider yourself tolerant while not tolerating the intolerant is hypocritical.

 

[Ignignoct]

What disgusts you so much about homosexuality, or gay marriage or even gay rights?

Femininity.

Men must be dominant. Submissive behavior is unsightly and unnatural. Sexual acts performed on women, such as licking, fingering, and breast-fondling are manly things that big strong men do, so lesbians are in the clear. Fellatio is something that weak people do to the strong, and the other way around for anal sex.

That's all.

Edit: That's the actual root cause I see in American Culture, anyway. I think equal rights for gays is something that should be a non-issue; already in place and accepted.

Why must just men be dominant? A woman have just as much right to be dominant. Okay, we're not talking rights here, but still, the only reason that it's believed that men are more dominant than women, is cause the idiots of the pasts thought; "Hey, were bigger and stronger than women, so we should be dominating, while they do the dishes.", and this lead to oppression. Just cause we can be dominating, why should we? Can't women be dominating, and can't men be feminine? And besides, we left being natural a long time ago.

Right, just like women have a right to vote but we've only just recently allowed it.

Just because something is morally correct by our standards doesn't mean it's what's happening or is currently held as objective truth.

In short, women to attempt to be dominant and powerful will be seen with a general disgust by the populace as nagging, overbearing she-devils with an axe to grind against men. Why else would they upset the natural order of things?

There's a difference between dominant and pyschocotic/nagging/etc.

Same as there is a difference between dominant 'powerful' guys and jerks/jocks/arseholes.

I do think you're partly right though.

Women generally lean towards submissive.
Men generally lean towards dominant.

HOWEVER, there are people of both sexes on the other side, and people who like both roles.

Its like saying "Right handers are the natural order of things!" - another the term "natural order" makes me wince as it implies a pattern of control and rules that grossly oversimplify things and don't fully accept that the rules we see are emergent, not inheritant to the system.

You do understand that I'm merely presenting the truth I find, yeah?

Just because it's true doesn't mean I agree with it.

Anywho, you're just going further proving my point by talking about manly women and womanly men. They exist, but they're jeered and taunted as unnatural, and that's the way it will stay for some time in America.

Gays, stay in the closet. For your own good. At least until you're truly independent.

 

[z121231211]

I don't really have a problem with Homosexuals but I believe being gay is a mental disease.

I probably am a homophobe but never really been in a situation that I could tell.

 

[Cowabungaa]

It is very disgusting. I don't understand why anyone would want to be gay, other than curiosity, which is often very betraying. I digusts me to think about homos having sex *shudders*. I am Christian, but the reason I condemn it is because it is disturbing and nasty and... and... you get my point. Its disgusting.

Who says they choose or want to be gay? But no I don't get your point, I probably fancy buttsechs as much as you do: o hell no never ever ever ever ever. But what do they have to do with you? Absolutely nothing. Isn't it very arrogant to condemn something simply because you don't want it yourself?

 

[Deacon Cole]

Gays are this month's christianity!

Next up: Abortion!

I'll get the coat hangers and the fondue forks.

 

[Hyper-space]

As said mostly for religious reasons.

I'm not a homophobe but I am religious and believe that for every man there is a woman and vice-versa but if people believe that the person they belong to is of the same gender, sure just don't try to shove it down my throat(non-innudeo there)

Edit: No one be a smart-ass and say "well oh yeah religion is always dtrying to cram stuff down peoples throats! hur hur hur I am so awesome" because this was hundreds of years ago, if these people found a better kind of cheese they'd kill anyone who used the old kind.

Freudian slip?

 

[darthzew]

I'm no homophobe. I have nothing against homosexuals. That's your choice.

But I do have something against gay marriage. I firmly that marriage is something for a man a woman, and I really struggle to understand exactly why homosexuals can't find something else. I think they'd get a lot more respect if they left marriage alone and instead found their own thing.

 

[Lord_Ascendant]

people who are afraid of gay people are.....creepy.....

 

[Cid Silverwing]

Homophobia is heresy.

 

[bkdlsf89990]

Who says they choose or want to be gay? But no I don't get your point, I probably fancy buttsechs as much as you do: o hell no never ever ever ever ever. But what do they have to do with you? Absolutely nothing. Isn't it very arrogant to condemn something simply because you don't want it yourself?

I'm sorry, I believe he said he simply found it disgusting, because he finds it disturbing and nasty.

Much like I am incapable of really understanding why people like raw shrimp. Are you going to chew me out for stating my disgust of raw shrimp?

 

[Ignignoct]

I'm no homophobe. I have nothing against homosexuals. That's your choice.

But I do have something against gay marriage. I firmly that marriage is something for a man a woman, and I really struggle to understand exactly why homosexuals can't find something else. I think they'd get a lot more respect if they left marriage alone and instead found their own thing.

Correct, and as long as gay's have the equivalent rights as a married couple such as insurance, wills, taxes, home ownership, etc, then there's no problem.

I think the gay rights movement would be more successful if it were focused more on practical rights and privileges rather than expanding the definition of marriage.

But that's truth, and truth is boring sometimes, so I'll go ahead and say that gays cause AIDS in school children, and that's why they need to be tagged and logged in a tracking database to keep them away from our future; the children.

 

[Cowabungaa]

I'm no homophobe. I have nothing against homosexuals. That's your choice.

But I do have something against gay marriage. I firmly that marriage is something for a man a woman, and I really struggle to understand exactly why homosexuals can't find something else. I think they'd get a lot more respect if they left marriage alone and instead found their own thing.

That's kinda selfish really. Afterall, who says that your meaning of marriage is the only correct one? Marriage means a lot of different things for a lot of different people. Why would any of those interpretations would be better then any other?

Who says they choose or want to be gay? But no I don't get your point, I probably fancy buttsechs as much as you do: o hell no never ever ever ever ever. But what do they have to do with you? Absolutely nothing. Isn't it very arrogant to condemn something simply because you don't want it yourself?

I'm sorry, I don't believe he said ANY of that. I believe he said he simply found it disgusting.

Are you going to chew me out for stating my disgust on raw shrimp?

No, he says that he condemns it because he things it's disgusting. The idea of homosexual sex disgusts me as well, the idea of a penis in my ass....o dear gód no....but do I condemn other people for liking that? No ofcourse not, why should I, why is my disgust more important then their preference? I don't like something, they do, fine. I don't condemn you because you find raw shrimp disgusting, why would I do that? Same with homosexual sex, why would I condemn someone because I don't like it?

 

[Ignignoct]

I don't really have a problem with Homosexuals but I believe being gay is a mental disease.

I probably am a homophobe but never really been in a situation that I could tell.

Well, let's race to see who can swallow this banana whole first and we'll go from there.

 

[Ancientgamer]

I can change the word homosexual for pedophile and have pretty much the same argument. Since I have a problem with pedophiles, I have a problem with homosexuals.

Pedophiles are sick perverts who prey onto poor innocent children who aren't old enough to know about sex.

I don't think you have any idea what a pedophile is.

Anyway, as a christen I'm against homosexuality, but not homosexuals themselves. I know full well it's beyond their control, (as most informed christens do) and I personally don't think less of them for it. The christen position is actually that homosexuals should practice calibacy. And I don't think less of those who don't, I just go "oh well" and hope they decide to come around.

 

[Internet Kraken]

It's a phobia. An irrational fear.

Asking why is like trying to get someone to explain why they are afraid of spiders. Or why I am afraid of vore

 

[Rascarin]

Homophobia sometimes stems from ones own fear/suspicion of being gay oneself. A repression kinda thing.

I fail at explain (and grammar, probably)

Like saying that you hate animals and love steak because secretly you wish to suckle the teat of a cow as its calf and allow wave after milky wave of sexual ecstasy to overflow in your mouth like a fountain of life and nutrition?

Because I totally know what you mean if so.

I...wow...I'm...wow LMAO

Are you laughing at what I said, or what Ignignoct said?

 

[IrrelevantTangent]

What disgusts you so much about homosexuality, or gay marriage or even gay rights?

Femininity.

Men must be dominant. Submissive behavior is unsightly and unnatural.

That's all.

Bondage must freak you right the fuck out, ay?

*cracks whip*

Silence, slave. You'll get 10 lashes for talking out of turn, and double that if you start crying!

Harder, damnit, I've been bad. Sorry, absolutely had to post that. Couldn't resist.


ANYHOO, I'm not against gays/lesbians. Want to know why? Well, it's a two-part reason. Firstly, in society today in America, being against gays and lesbians means you are a homophobic asshole, and that it's okay to mock you. The end. That's how people who are against gays/lesbians are portrayed, and while I've never really agreed with people who are against homosexuality, the least we could do if we're going to have a rational discussion is stop slandering. Or something.

Secondly, while it may turn out to be a genetic hiccup that actually causes homosexuality, or whether it's just someone's choice, or alien rays blasted a percentage of the population last year when they were sleeping, it doesn't matter, and neither does the whole 'homosexuality is unnatural' argument. You say homosexuality is unnatural? How about fellatio? Masturbation? Viruses? Genetic defects? Alien cows? Why are you only complaining about this and not about all those other things society has deemed to be unnatural at some point? Either become a 'naturalist' or stop raining hell down on people just because they want to be different.

God, are we going to turn into a nation of people who keep trying to purge specific races or lifestyles off the face of the Earth or something?

Oh, wait.

Other than that, in a nutshell- homosexuality isn't really that unnatural, people who automatically call anti-gay/lesbian whatevers are hypocrites, and I am in favor of people practicing whatever kind of sexual practices they want. Peace out.