Transgendered Woman Beat Up In McDonald's; Employees Do Nothing

[sinterklaas]

My god, some people in this thread are unsensitive with their bullshit about 'employee protocol'. HELLO? There is a person getting beat up badly. And you would just stand aside and do nothing? Yeah, I could understand if the person was getting beat up by five bulky guys with knives, but the assailants were two girls, 18 and 14 years old!

 

[Alphavillain]

All the comments about not getting involved because you're more worried about your shitty minimum wage job are really heart warming.

This. People who do nothing in instances such as this have to live with themselves. And people that defend it probably work in these places and spit in your food.

 

[Riobux]

Also, I find the legal concept of a "hate crime" stupid. If a white man kills a white man, it's homicide. If a white man kills a gay Jewish black woman, it's a hate crime as well as homicide and he gets a penalty slapped on top of that. Sure he deserves the punishment for murder, but who are we to say he killed that person for any of those descriptive factors? Maybe she owed him money. But... my example grows long.

What I mean is this is a simple case of assault, plain and straightforward. IF the manager refused to call the cops though, there's a real problem that needs dealing with.

It has been recorded on police record that the girls beat up the transgender woman because of the appearance of her being male and it has been quoted by the filmer that "He wasn't transgender He Was A Man Dressed Lik A Woman...He Still Had His Male Parts". link to information here. [http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-fires-employee-who-filmed-beating-102975] I'm sorry, but this is the classic definition of hate crime. The only reason you think that every cross-group attack which is by a majority to a minority group gets perceived as hate crime is because those types of attacks that aren't perceived as being out of hatred of the race rarely get mentioned in the news. Even when it is, it usually isn't acknowledged what the race, sexuality or religious affiliations of the attacker and victim are.

To those who would rather keep their minimum wage job than to help a transgender woman being attacked for walking into a female toilet, as someone pointed out before it's what Noam Chompsky referred to as "wage slavery". It's appalling that you'd rather watch someone be beaten, possibly to death, just to keep that minimum wage job. That poorly paid job that you'll likely drop in a year or two to get a real job. You could then argue "well, then it goes on my record that I got fired, as opposed to me quitting", but I think a company would rather have someone who is able to take responsibility and show some initiative in situations like this than to employ someone who watched this kind of thing take place. To those saying it was simply diffusion of responsibility, the small amount of people in the building at the time and severity of the crime makes me reluctant to agree, and I can't help but think it's just simply cost-benefit mechanism in play.

 

[xchurchx]

and all she wanted was a Big Mac and some fries
in all seriousness tho i hope the two attackers get a long time to think about what they did prefrebly behind bars!

 

[Velocity Eleven]

That umm... "She" got beat up is nothing special (people get beat up all the time) but that nobody did anything, that's just wrong.

Was it really necessary to put quotations around 'She'?

Not really, I'm just not sure if I should say he or she.

But it's mostly because transgendered people scare me.

why do we scare you?

 

[DoctorPhil]

I hope she sues MCdonalds and gets millions.
Why am I not surprised the perps are 18-14 year old brats?

That umm... "She" got beat up is nothing special (people get beat up all the time) but that nobody did anything, that's just wrong.

Was it really necessary to put quotations around 'She'?

Not really, I'm just not sure if I should say he or she.

But it's mostly because transgendered people scare me.

why do we scare you?

If anything you should feel sorry for them, what if you woke up tomorrow in the body of a woman? Wouldn't you want to be back in the body of a man?

 

[Starke]

Why the hell did the NewsOne site file it under "entertainment"?

Sorry, somehow that's at least as disgusting as the event itself.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

(Rubs forehead) Jesus Christ... As if I needed yet another reason to dislike people...

Thank God someone had the good sense to step in and intervene, instead of just standing and watching. Goddamned "Observer Effect"...

I like to think I'd do the same thing (that is, run in and help, not stand and watch)... but hey, that's just my strong sense of justice talking.

I hope this McDonalds gets sued. I really do...

 

[Hive Mind]

We find the individual's gender most irrelevant.

 

[Pyro Paul]

I hope she sues MCdonalds and gets millions.
Why am I not surprised the perps are 18-14 year old brats?

That umm... "She" got beat up is nothing special (people get beat up all the time) but that nobody did anything, that's just wrong.

Was it really necessary to put quotations around 'She'?

Not really, I'm just not sure if I should say he or she.

But it's mostly because transgendered people scare me.

why do we scare you?

If anything you should feel sorry for them, what if you woke up tomorrow in the body of a woman? Wouldn't you want to be back in the body of a man?

If you went to sleep one day with a massive cancerious deformation growing from your face and woke up the next day with it gone... would you really want it back?

most transgenders suffer from pre-natel complications where in the development the fetus a problem is encountered. The fetus tries to revert back to Female, the standard template and default for all mammals, but is unable to do so completely. In turn this leaves opposit gender artifacts in the body and mind that conflict with the constructed body.

 

[Azdron]

I have to say, after hearing the testimony from people who work minimum wage jobs with front line customer interaction that this does not surprise me. To the dudes behind the counter at Mc d's you are noting more than another worthless animal in their shitty dead end job (customers are universally inhuman if most retail workers are to be believed). And they simply aren't paid enough to care, let alone intervene on your behalf.

Frankly, If I had to live through the things I heard of Id be rooting for the attackers too, Id be filming it for you-tube and secretly hopeing they go for my boss next. And since I start working part time for BP soon Ill get to find out first hand.

 

[Kerra]

We find the individual's gender most irrelevant.

Its not really irrelevant, this attack was provoked by the woman trying to use the female bathroom, the gender is quite relevant to this particular case

 

[Iwata]

I can't believe people are actually saying they wouldn't do anything because they'd risk getting fired from their shitty minimum-wage job! I'd be far more concerned about losing my fucking humanity by watching someone get beat up at my workplace and do nothing about it!

 

[Kerra]

I hope she sues MCdonalds and gets millions.
Why am I not surprised the perps are 18-14 year old brats?

That umm... "She" got beat up is nothing special (people get beat up all the time) but that nobody did anything, that's just wrong.

Was it really necessary to put quotations around 'She'?

Not really, I'm just not sure if I should say he or she.

But it's mostly because transgendered people scare me.

why do we scare you?

If anything you should feel sorry for them, what if you woke up tomorrow in the body of a woman? Wouldn't you want to be back in the body of a man?

Its not really the same as waking up in the wrong body one day, its more of a niggling thought in the back of your mind and one day you figure out what its trying to tell you.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

According to the second link, I don't think it was a hate crime, more a misunderstanding. It said that the assualter thought the victim was hitting on her boyfriend, not that she was transgendered.

However, I don't know how that employee knew the victim was a transgender, my thoughts come blank as to why.

 

[kuolonen]

While perfectly understand not wanting to get involved in other peoples problems, I find the employees actions quite shitty.

None of them (apparently) call police or intervene, but when they do hear cops are coming they promptly warn the assaulters to get away before the cops come. Nice. You should really see vid before you make any comments here. Employees attitude is clearly heard. One of them laughs.

 

[Kerra]

In most situations like this, most employee's in service industry business are supposed to do two things in the case of robberies, fights and other such contingencies.

1. Notify the proper authorities.

2. Get clear of the situation until help arrives.

But the employee no doubt did this to get a viral video out. He could, and probably will lose his job. If someone at McDonald's called 911, the company cannot be sued. It was a cruel and unfortunate comment, but not illegal.

Just so we're all clear before someone jumps down my throat, I'm only stating fact here and I do feel a number of sick acts were committed.

He did get fired, he has also been driven off youtube, twitter and facebook for making comments such as "He wasn't transgendered He Was A Man Dressed Lik A Woman... He Still Had His Male Parts"

 

[Gottesstrafe]

If you're getting paid minimum wage in a job you hate, would you step in to help someone? I wouldn't, because I know for a fact I'd be fired for it. It is NOT in your job description to act like security.

But on the other hand, say you did step in and got pretty busted up but helped the person anyway. You think the managers are going to really be happy with you calling in sick the next day? You'd be fired because it's your own fault.

The employees are usually told to stay out of situations like this. The only one who should have stepped in was the manager, because safety is HIS responsibility.

So the employees should not be blamed for doing nothing. Except the one who recorded it, although it depends on his intention. If it was a 'LOLZ LETS PUT IT ON YOUTUBE' then yeah, fire his ass. But if it was a 'I can't step in, but I can get vital evidence on my phone' then give the guy a pat on the back for at least doing SOMETHING.

And if anyone should have stepped in, it should have been one of the customers, since they wouldn't lose their job trying to protect someone.

It's not about your damn job, that's the point. You don't just help somebody because you're paid to do so, you help somebody because that's what people do; help each other. Especially somebody who's getting their ass beat for being who they are. By the way, I don't get your first point...you wouldn't step in to help somebody on the count of your shitty job you hate, because you might get fired? Surely that's two birds with one stone?

So the employees are more at fault than the other customers? Regular employees are instructed to avoid getting involved in these kind of instances and to fetch the manager instead. Part of the reason is to avoid escalating the situation as they're not trained to deal with it. That's why regular employees of big-box stores are discouraged from actively pursing shoplifters. What if the thief panics and pulls out a knife or a gun? Is $20 worth of pilfered snacks worth getting shot/stabbed, or even worse getting another customer injured or killed in the crossfire? Either way someone can get hurt, and the parent company is VERY liable as opposed to just on the receiving end of bad publicity. Same reason why bank tellers and jewellers are instructed to be compliant and get armed robbers out quickly without starting a panic, letting the proper authorities deal with it.

Also, there's no mention of the two girls assaulting the victim for being transgendered. If anything, it was that the 18 year old thought that the victim was flirting with her boyfriend.

On a different tangent: I know I'm a terrible person for suggesting this, but after reading the articles am I the ONLY one who was reminded of this [http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=11915&title=when-keeping-it-real-goes-wrong]?

 

[Captain Pirate]

Even if I would lose my job, I'd still try and do something.
I'd have to get another job, but I'd do so with a good conscience. I'd hate to go into work the next day and be like 'I could've stopped it, but hey, at least I'm getting payed'.
Out society is so fucked up in ways we don't even realise; everything has a fucking price.
As long as we're getting payed, the decent thing to do is shoved aside.
Money > Morals = First World 'Society'