US(and a bunch of other places) vs Libya, GO!

[DevilWolf47]

Question!

Was there ever a part of this civil war that wasn't hopelessly one-sided? The rebels who were untrained vs. infantry, tanks, and artillery was one thing, but obsolete tanks and artillery vs. the best Europe and America has to offer? We're talking weapons that could cripple Libya's heavy armor division without entering Libyan airspace.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I don't get how they can go after Libya, and continue to ignore North Korea.

OT: Good to see the UK in this. I think they'll be doing hte most, what to clean up that mess they started.

....What?

He was put in charge by the UK. Usually is the US that put someone in charge and watch it blow up in their face. This time its the UK. Its just sorta refreshing.

 

[Heeman89]

Everybody seems to forget that the war in Iraq is over, been over since August of last year when all US combat personnel were withdrew from the country

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You BELIEVE that?

It's bullshit, by the way.

I'm assuming you are referring to the 50k U.S personnel left in the country that are ADVISING and helping train the Iraqi military and police forces, wouldn't really consider those guys combat as is they aren't doing any combat missions

So yeah I guess I would believe that

 

[DefunctTheory]

Everybody seems to forget that the war in Iraq is over, been over since August of last year when all US combat personnel were withdrew from the country

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You BELIEVE that?

It's bullshit, by the way.

I'm assuming you are referring to the 50k U.S personnel left in the country that are ADVISING and helping train the Iraqi military and police forces, wouldn't really consider those guys combat as is they aren't doing any combat missions

So yeah I guess I would believe that

They go out on combat missions. They are just 'back up,' like the Iraqi forces were considered before.

Back up gets called in a lot more often now.

 

[Freshman]

I don't get how they can go after Libya, and continue to ignore North Korea.

Because Libya doesn't have a big brother named China...

 

[Nuclear Pancake]

A unified Korea im pretty sure thats the set up for Homefront so yea watch out.

 

[thelonewolf266]

I don't get how they can go after Libya, and continue to ignore North Korea.

Why would they? Korea's being quiet, and they havent really made a move recently other then that thing with the missile over Japan. I believe they have a crap load of sanctions on N. Korea, so unless they cross the DMZ there's noething to do.

Honestly, if N. Korea had a brain in its head it would just stop now. If it launches a nuke, depending who it gets shot it it can be neutralized and the country itself is surrounded by UN nations (Russia, China, Japan [though in their state I dont think they could do much], S. Korea [backed by the US]). Its a lose lose situation for N. Korea, but their leader is too thick headed to realize.

OT: Good to see the UK in this. I think they'll be doing hte most, what to clean up that mess they started.

... Its actually kinda refreshing to see the shoe on the other foot.

I agree Japan isn't in any state to retaliate but china and Russia have massive military power however china would back north Korea seeing as they are allies but this is all irrelevant because if they launch a nuke then everyone else will respond and the world ends.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Ugh. NO! JUST NO! *rolls eyes* there goes my country again, millions of problems of it's own to solve but once again decides it has to play hero. Lets all go rushing into another war! It's not like the last one went way to long and created a lot more problems then it solved.

 

[Tsaba]

should of been France, US, and a lot of other people vs Libya, well, at least until next week.

 

[Dana22]

"US(and a bunch of other places)"...how...stereotypical.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Snip

They're not really allies, and China wouldnt go against the US and lose that trading partner or Risk the UK/Russia/anyone joining to strike. Contrary to what people and China like to say, their military isnt as great as it sounds. China has the rule that they wont attack N. Korea as long as N. Korea doesnt attack them. However, China has stated it will start war with anyone that crosses its borders while on an attack with N. Korea (just as it was in the Korean War).

Its a standoff situation up there, withe veryone watching everyone.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

I do not care what religion or economic system they follow, as long as it is a democracy.

LIBERTY FOR THE PEOPLE!

Democracy is one of the most broken systems in the world. It's worse than totalitarianism. At least in totalitarianism everything is thrown on the table. In democracy, they trick you by giving you the illusion of choice. Democracy is a popularity vote, nothing more. Citizens never have and never will have a direct impact on politics.. I would've been glad if the revolution went on by itself without outside interference. Maybe that way you wouldn't have had yet another state become a puppet of the West.

 

[lostzombies.com]

The amount of media bias is pretty sad. ALL the work to get this resolution passed was done by France and the UK. The US was silent on the issue and sat on the fence right up until a matter of hours before the vote. It's why France and the UK are doing all the air combat patrols and the US at the last minute has decided to 'help' with providing additional tomahawk missile attacks to those the British subs were launching/

But nice to see the US media claiming all the glory...

 

[DefunctTheory]

I don't get how they can go after Libya, and continue to ignore North Korea.

Why would they? Korea's being quiet, and they havent really made a move recently other then that thing with the missile over Japan. I believe they have a crap load of sanctions on N. Korea, so unless they cross the DMZ there's noething to do.

Honestly, if N. Korea had a brain in its head it would just stop now. If it launches a nuke, depending who it gets shot it it can be neutralized and the country itself is surrounded by UN nations (Russia, China, Japan [though in their state I dont think they could do much], S. Korea [backed by the US]). Its a lose lose situation for N. Korea, but their leader is too thick headed to realize.

OT: Good to see the UK in this. I think they'll be doing hte most, what to clean up that mess they started.

... Its actually kinda refreshing to see the shoe on the other foot.

I agree Japan isn't in any state to retaliate but china and Russia have massive military power however china would back north Korea seeing as they are allies but this is all irrelevant because if they launch a nuke then everyone else will respond and the world ends.

Japan has virtually no military to speak of.

And if North Korea ever got aggressive, China would be the first to drop bombs 9After South Korea).

 

[Shoggoth2588]

I don't get how they can go after Libya, and continue to ignore North Korea.

Mommar (I can't spell) is killing civies. Kim isn't...well...not that we know of (or maybe I'm not watching the right news source) The UN had their chance to go after NK last year when they torpedoed that Japanese...fishing boat? I can't remember if it was the Chinese that rammed the Fishing Boat or, the North Korean sub that outright sunk it...

Also: North Korea isn't sitting on a gold-mine of fuel/ gas.

 

[Heeman89]

Everybody seems to forget that the war in Iraq is over, been over since August of last year when all US combat personnel were withdrew from the country

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You BELIEVE that?

It's bullshit, by the way.

I'm assuming you are referring to the 50k U.S personnel left in the country that are ADVISING and helping train the Iraqi military and police forces, wouldn't really consider those guys combat as is they aren't doing any combat missions

So yeah I guess I would believe that

They go out on combat missions. They are just 'back up,' like the Iraqi forces were considered before.

Back up gets called in a lot more often now.

I had not heard that but that still doesn't mean there is a "war in Iraq" as the President of the United States declared that over is August of last year

 

[Littlee300]

I don't get how they can go after Libya, and continue to ignore North Korea.

North Korea has the backing of China and, to some extent, Russia. Either of those countries could veto any UN action, and it could easily escalate if one of those super powers decided to help their ally. Libya is a international pariah.

Also, if your cynical, North Korea doesn't have any oil...

Even china is growing sick of North Korea and the reason why korea has been quite of late is because china told them to stand down, so I doubt china or russia would object to UN action if North Korea started making noise again.

And being cynical on subjects like this, I'd go as far to say that they have been waiting for lybia to go into civil war or maybe even initiated it for the oil, though that might be going too far. But we all know the UN has a history of being free of corruption, backing up just causes for no profit, bringing peace wherever they go and not being biased...

To your first point; true, China does seem to be getting tired with their little brother, but I believe that they would still step in to help. Removing the "Communist" system in North Korea would lead to a unified Korea, backed (most likely) by the US. Sino-American relations may be pretty steady, but I doubt they would be willing to allow their historic enemy another foothold closer to China.

To your second; I hope your last sentence is tongue-in-cheek. Seriously. It can't not be. Please tell me its sarcastic. PLEASE!

China would love for Korea to unite. They said so. It would allow better trade (which china loves) it is ridiculous to think China would prefer Korea not to be unified.

 

[Simalacrum]

I'm still kinda mixed about this whole military intervention thing...

On the one hand, yes, the rebels are being pushed very far and if they lose then I fear that horrible, horrible things will happen to the citizens involved.

On the other hand... it's a countries internal affairs. We have no real way of discerning what really is going on in Libya or whats going to happen in the future. Who's to say that the government the rebels bring in will be any better or worse than the one that's in place now? I really don't think that we have the right to be the 'world police', just as in Iraq/Afghanistan when America said their aim was to "liberate" the peoples there... look how well that turned out for them?

 

[DefunctTheory]

Everybody seems to forget that the war in Iraq is over, been over since August of last year when all US combat personnel were withdrew from the country

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You BELIEVE that?

It's bullshit, by the way.

I'm assuming you are referring to the 50k U.S personnel left in the country that are ADVISING and helping train the Iraqi military and police forces, wouldn't really consider those guys combat as is they aren't doing any combat missions

So yeah I guess I would believe that

They go out on combat missions. They are just 'back up,' like the Iraqi forces were considered before.

Back up gets called in a lot more often now.

I had not heard that but that still doesn't mean there is a "war in Iraq" as the President of the United States declared that over is August of last year

Oh, no, there is no war. But it is still an 'Armed Conflict.'

[China would love for Korea to unite. They said so. It would allow better trade (which china loves) it is ridiculous to think China would prefer Korea not to be unified.

Unified under WHO though.

 

[thelonewolf266]

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They're not really allies, and China wouldnt go against the US and lose that trading partner or Risk the UK/Russia/anyone joining to strike. Contrary to what people and China like to say, their military isnt as great as it sounds. China has the rule that they wont attack N. Korea as long as N. Korea doesnt attack them. However, China has stated it will start war with anyone that crosses its borders while on an attack with N. Korea (just as it was in the Korean War).

Its a standoff situation up there, withe veryone watching everyone.

Their army may not be the best equipped but it is the largest and their economy is in the a lot better shape right now than most of the western world i'm not saying i think they can attack i just don't think they have any need to help any other country except to forward their own political agenda and north Korea is a communist country like china so they would in all probability support them over the UN.