Veganism and you: would you ever want make that choice?

[Ocelot GT]

My room mate last year was a strict vegetarian, and he dated a vegan girl. They both thought I was disgusting because I ate a kielbasa sausage when I went with them to dinner. Furthermore, she refused to wear leather, and dislike that I wore a leather jacket.

I don't have anything against them for their lifestyle choice, but I personally could never even delve into the vegetarian or vegan lifestyle. I like meat too much to willingly be a vegetarian, but I could handle it better than being a vegan under doctor's orders. Veganism, with its lack of anything in the way of eggs, butter, or dairy alongside meat would just not make life possible for me. Worse yet, there are vegans who are also on gluten-free diets by choice.

What are your thoughts? Would you ever do it?

Or are you a vegan? Share your experiences on what made you make that choice.

That kind of do gooder vegan is actually extremely ignorant.

"How can you eat that burger? Don't you know a cow died to make that!?"

Yes... But I didn't see it happen so I don't care.

Yet these vegans will chow down on fruit and vegetables... Where do you suppose that produce comes from? FARMS! Where do you think farmland comes from? After felling forests and land clearing. What do you think farmers put on their crop to keep it protected? Pesticides, insecticides and all manner of chemicals. How about when it rains or the irrigation is on, where do you think all those nasty as shit chemicals go? Into the rivers and oceans of the world my dear little vegan friend.
A tonne of rivers and waterways around the world are screwed majorly or near it, because of chemicals from farms.
There was a case in Florida where pesticide runoff into the water was causing the fish to have insanely high levels of a particular chemical. The alligators who ate these fish became sick, as in, their brain ceased functioning and they literally turned into zombies. They floated around, couldn't breath, eat, walk or co-ordinate themselves either. As a result that river's ecosystem went straight down the toilet.
And you'll see similar problems like this, algae, polluted water, high toxic levels, etc. All because of run off from farms, because the farmer needs to keep a good crop so he can live. Now the little vegans will shed a tear for a cow being killed for their steak, but they are clueless that even eating fruit and veg isn't exactly eco-friendly either.

Unless you frolick out into the rain forest and pick bananas with the urang utans personally, you're still not helping the environment.

So you may as well just have a balanced diet without the need to take iron supplements (or else you get seriously sick). You can eat meat and fruit/veg without murdering all animals and polluting the world. The vegans who think they're so high and mighty and eco-friendly are just short sighted.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

No, because it's simply not as healthy. I mean, it's healthier than eating nothing but meat, but it's just so much harder to get protein which is just as necessary as any vitamin or nutrient. I also have no reason to limit my eating like that...

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Vegan

All you need to know.

I'm always afraid to go on that website after I got goatse'd and tubgirl'd at the same time.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

They're all going to die horrible deaths anyway, within the factory farm system, so is it really worse if we prevent future generations from living and dying horribly at our hands?

Spoken like a true Hitler (he was a veggie too).

Reductio ad Hitlerum [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum], douche nozzle.

The fallacy claims that a policy leads to?or is the same as?one advocated or implemented by Adolf Hitler or the Third Reich, and so "proves" that the original policy is undesirable. For example: "Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarianism is wrong." The tactic is often used to derail arguments, because such comparisons tend to distract and anger.

 

[Verbal Samurai]

Everyone knows if you don't eat meat you turn into a pussy.

/southpark

Well said.

 

[Hollock]

no way I would never not want make that choice.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

To anyone who dosen't eat meat because of "ethical" issues...

http://web.archive.org/web/20041107084521/http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/news/food/vegan.html

Unless you GROW YOUR OWN FOOD, ALL OF IT. YOU ARE A GIGANTIC HYPOCRITE. All human activity will harm animal life. All animal activity harms animal life, that's how life works, energy has to come from somewhere. Suck it up, get off your high horse, admit your a hypocrite, and enjoy a nice juicy steak on me.

Yeah, see, this is what I thought before I took an ethics class.

There's a difference between inadvertently harming rodents who were too stupid to avoid big, heavy machinery, and locking feeling animals in little cages for the duration of their short, miserable lives explicitly for the pleasure of eating meat. There's also a difference between causing inadvertent death, and continuous suffering for the duration of an animal's life. Animal rights activists tend to be more concerned with needless suffering than simple death.

Besides, even if it did make vegans hypocrites, (which, after understanding the vegan side to the argument, I see that it really doesn't,) that wouldn't make eating meat morally right. Hypocrisy only implicates the person, not what they say. [http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem-tu-quoque.html]

Bill: "Smoking is very unhealthy and leads to all sorts of problems. So take my advice and never start."
Jill: "Well, I certainly don't want to get cancer."
Bill: "I'm going to get a smoke. Want to join me Dave?"
Jill: "Well, I guess smoking can't be that bad. After all, Bill smokes."

But, hey, I'm a fan of Maddox too. He's good satire.

 

[Caligulove]

Was a vegetarian for awhile but stopped. Girlfriend still is a vegetarian. I think it's harder to deal with the mightier than thou veg people out there than it is to actually be a vegetarian. Really? You're REALLY disgusted by someone eating meat... Oh please.

If done right and not acting like a tossed about it then it's fine. If not it just leads to an unhealthy diet without meat and probably one of the most annoying personalities out there.

 

[Zorg Machine]

I will never truly understand why anyone would become a vegan (outside of medical reasons) and even though I get the vegetarian point of view, I love meat way too much.

 

[bftau]

Vegetarians who eat fish are hypocrites, if you are vegie 'cos you are into the mistreatment of animals crap then fish are the most inhumanly treated creatures on the planet.

What Vegans and vegies need to understand is there are about 23 (I think) vital proteins our bodies need and we can only manufacture 10/13 of them (I can' remember which). Some of the rest you can obtain via some plants but animal meat contains vital VITAL proteins not found anywhere else.

If you need further evidence your body needs meat, look at your teeth... when was the last time you saw a cow with canines...

 

[chronobreak]

I have one friend that is a vegan, and she just seems sickly and fragile. Completely turned me off to the whole idea. I do like myself a salad, however.

 

[BonsaiK]

My room mate last year was a strict vegetarian, and he dated a vegan girl. They both thought I was disgusting because I ate a kielbasa sausage when I went with them to dinner. Furthermore, she refused to wear leather, and dislike that I wore a leather jacket.

I don't have anything against them for their lifestyle choice, but I personally could never even delve into the vegetarian or vegan lifestyle. I like meat too much to willingly be a vegetarian, but I could handle it better than being a vegan under doctor's orders. Veganism, with its lack of anything in the way of eggs, butter, or dairy alongside meat would just not make life possible for me. Worse yet, there are vegans who are also on gluten-free diets by choice.

What are your thoughts? Would you ever do it?

Or are you a vegan? Share your experiences on what made you make that choice.

I'm not a vegetarian but I eat meat rarely and red meat almost never.

Best reason I can think of for going vego is the environment - beef farming is the #1 source of global warming because of the amounts of methane that cows produce and also the enormous amounts of resources needed to feed cattle for slaughter.

That's not why I eat very little meat though. I initially went vego because I had a partner who was vego and it was just too much hassle to cook two different meals. And once you stop eating red meat, it's hard to start again. When we broke up I found I could cope with chickena nd fish okay but beef and pork was way too much for my stomach which had stopped producing the acids required to digest those things (or that's how it feels anyway).

Also, meat is expensive and I'm poor.

I'd never go vegan, soy milk tastes way, way better than normal milk if you pick the right brand, but eggs are just too damn useful in cooking and egg substitutes are meh.

 

[pearcinator]

I couldnt live without meat. I would rather die.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

man I respect their lifestyle choice but I can't understand it
meat it just so....................heavenly even................... sure you don't usually get the satisfaction of killing the animal by yourself anymore but I just wouldn't be the same person without my love of meat

 

[Uberjoe19]

I'm part German, and if I went more than a week or two without eating anything from a pig or cow I would die.

 

[ERadical]

I need my meet and I think this Aussie commercial is quite appropriate.

 

[scorch 13]

If it isnt meat it isnt me.