Westboro Baptist Church at Rutgers University

[darthzew]

You excuse the fact that God made himself human in the New Testament in the form of Christ.

And of course he can relate to humans... he made them. It's like if you built a lego airplane. No, you aren't legos but you clearly understand how these legos work to form an airplane.

I did believe it is actually commonly believed that the Bible isn't meant to be taken literally.
God is a concept, through the belief of it, it exists.
If you don't believe in it, it doesn't exist.

But the problem with that is, I'm afraid, we'd need to exist before God existed for God to exist...

I believe that God is eternal and that he made us. He is his own being.

I believe that the Bible is literal.

 

[Lordpils]

Summon the might of the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Dress as pirates and carry signs that say "God hates homophobes and borderline psychotics." With pictures pointing towards WBC's leader Fred Phelps or something similar. Overall the only advice I can give is: Have fun making fun of them.

Edit: Oh and when they start singing their insane songs, start singing famous pirate tunes.

Edit 2: If you don't know any pirate songs, get a boombox with songs like Gay Bar and It's Raining Men.

 

[Booze Zombie]

I believe that God is eternal and that he made us. He is his own being.

I believe that the Bible is literal.

"God's world" would disagree with you.

 

[silent-treatment]

lol just because they have it on their schedule doe not mean that they will actually be there. they were supposed to come to my school last year and they never showed. up. and if they do show up, just ignore them. It gives them jollies when you protest them back.

 

[Wayte]

The westboro church is batshit crazy. They sound like an overly simple bad guy organization in a badly written movie.
Granted the entire idea "homosexuality is bad" is laughable...

 

[PurpleRain]

You want to know the best way to protest, just as the above guy said DONT FUCKING DO ANYTHING all your doing is giving them media attention leave them alone let them prattle on about they're bullshit and encourage others to do the same. Theres a reason they do these pickets it works people react, write to your local newspaper and ask them to please not publish anything about it if you really want to help against them.

But they get associated with negative connotations. They will get more media attention, but at least they will know that they are not welcome there and that the world is moving on without them

I say do everything you want. Gay Pride Parade is a sure fire hit.

 

[FinalGamer]

assless chaps for everyone then go hit on the guys in the westboro group

I think they'd murder you for that, it'd still make them look bad too XD

 

[ryai458]

assless chaps for everyone then go hit on the guys in the westboro group

I think they'd murder you for that, it'd still make them look bad too XD

it would be worth it well except for everyone behind the people hitting on the westboro people uhh hairy ass's "shudders"

 

[ryai458]

double post sorry.

 

[Flamezdudes]

(As a Christian, I'd like to say that Westboro Baptist Church can go screw itself.)

You could say that without being a Christian and it'd still be just as valid.

My point was that they do not represent Christianity as a whole and even we're against them.

I respect the WBC a bit more than other Christians. Atleast they follow the Bible more literally without the heretical apologetics.

You have a pretty shaky view of the Bible then. The second greatest commandment, according to Christ, is to love thy neighbor and I'm not seeing that in Westboro. Also, the Bible speaks against condemning others, which is supposed to be left to God.

Our call is to love.

And while I'm thinking about it.... Westoboro's favorite sign "God hates fags"... God does not hate fags, he loves them. God hates homosexuality. Big difference.

No, I understand the contradicting messages perfectly. Your call is to love.....except for _____. Then you must murder. God is the only one to judge....but if you have a hunch already then go for it.

Yeah, hating homosexuality is WAY different from hating the people who practice homosexuality. *rolls eyes* I love the subtle hatred in that quote, the fact that theists convieniently forget that what we do makes us who we are and that two people making consentual love to each other is absolutely fine. Why can't those sickos just repress their natural urges and just live an unhappy life? I mean, that's all we're asking for! No big deal, right? *rolls eyes again*

Lev 20: 13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

I think we've had this discussion before.

No, you're wrong. Our call is purely to love. The ones who are out there blowing up abortion clinics or going on crusades have clearly misunderstood the teachings of Christ. We're called to live our lives by example.

Paul says that we should let sinners live their lives. Again, we must live by example and show them the way.

The books of the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible, are lawbooks for the old Israeli nation. It forms a basis for what Christians believe is right today, but we no longer believe in capital punishment for homosexuals, instead we believe in redemption through Christ. Our call is to expand the kingdom of Christ through Evangelism and if we're out murdering people, how is that furthering Christ's kingdom?

And back to the point of it being laws for an Israeli nation... me stoning a homosexual would be like a British person arresting a Texan in Texas for gun possession. The rules clearly don't apply.

Tis a shame the Bible has been changed constantly and stuff taken out and stuff placed in it. Maybe it's why im an Athiest.

 

[Cliff_m85]

The difference being that we wouldn't build a lego airplane with cancer.....or AIDS.....or unnecessary wisdom teeth...or as hermaphrodites...or with mental disorders.... (to be continued)

It wouldn't be much fun if God made us all perfect, now would it? He puts trials in our lives so that we can love through hardship. Love both others and God. The purpose of man is to glorify God... but that glorification wouldn't mean much if we were just robots that said "God is good" constantly.

Instead, we have a choice. We can hate God for our suffering or we can glorify him despite it.

Yeah, thank you god for Diabetes! And for child rape!

 

[Cliff_m85]

*sighs* And yet you ignore the very fact that your wonderful loving god, at some point in history, demanded homosexuals to be murdered. But that's ok, because it was a different time. Just like the Christians who blather about the verse showing rape of an unmarried virgin to be a valuable way to gain a wife as "ok, but only during that time". Immorality is at it's best when coupled with illogical faith. Your religion killed homosexuals. Your religion killed innocent women. But it's ok, because back then it was a different time.

"For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord," Romans 6:23.

That's an effective summary of my faith right there. All I have to do to gain eternal life is to repent of my sins and believe that Christ is my Lord. As such, I do what he says. Read through John or Matthew and see what Christ himself had to say.

You forgot the part of the Leviticus verse where it said that their blood is on their own hands. It's like if you stole something in modern America, but you didn't think it was wrong, you'd still be put in prison. That's the law. It's still your fault you stole, knowing full well that it's illegal.

(I'm not going to debate the unmarried virgin verse; we've already been through that)

For the wages of making love to a consentual adult is DEATH! KILL FAGGOTS!

With eternal love,
-God

I would love to see that little letter get sent to Earth.

You equal theft with consentual sex. Enough said. Your morals have been perverted enough by your faith.

 

[Timotei]

Have the students make signs that say "God hates fags who hate fags" , have a bunch made at Kinkos and post them around campus.

 

[lacktheknack]

(As a Christian, I'd like to say that Westboro Baptist Church can go screw itself.)

You could say that without being a Christian and it'd still be just as valid.

Just reaffirming that 99.9% percent of Christians think they're batshit insane.

 

[darthzew]

For the wages of making love to a consentual adult is DEATH! KILL FAGGOTS!

With eternal love,
-God

I would love to see that little letter get sent to Earth.

You equal theft with consentual sex. Enough said. Your morals have been perverted enough by your faith.

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't equate either, I said both were illegal.

And no, that's not what it says. It says love faggots, and I'll deal with them in eternity. I'm paraphrasing.

 

[johnzaku]

(As a Christian, I'd like to say that Westboro Baptist Church can go screw itself.)

You could say that without being a Christian and it'd still be just as valid.

My point was that they do not represent Christianity as a whole and even we're against them.

I respect the WBC a bit more than other Christians. Atleast they follow the Bible more literally without the heretical apologetics.

Um..... No....?

They honestly do not follow the bible. They pick and choose and if we followed it literally we'd be allowed to sell our sisters into slavery and kill our boss for working on Sunday and women wouldn't be allowed to work or vote and we'd kill people for going to a steakhouse on Friday and etc etc etc....

 

[darthzew]

The difference being that we wouldn't build a lego airplane with cancer.....or AIDS.....or unnecessary wisdom teeth...or as hermaphrodites...or with mental disorders.... (to be continued)

It wouldn't be much fun if God made us all perfect, now would it? He puts trials in our lives so that we can love through hardship. Love both others and God. The purpose of man is to glorify God... but that glorification wouldn't mean much if we were just robots that said "God is good" constantly.

Instead, we have a choice. We can hate God for our suffering or we can glorify him despite it.

Yeah, thank you god for Diabetes! And for child rape!

People ask the question... "if God is so good, then why does bad stuff happen?" That's asking the question completely wrong. Ask it like this, "If there is a powerful, loving God out there who knows what I did and thought about yesterday... then why didn't he kill me in my sleep?"

When you ask it the first way, you're putting the problem up there. That's already violating what we're discussing here... I believe in a perfect God. But ask it the second way, and the problem is you and me and every other person out there, just the way it should be. The way it is.

One of God's gifts to us is choice. You can chose to be a child molester, but rest assured God will deal with you when the time comes. My choice? I've chosen to take God's free gift of eternal life. You can chose what you will and I won't hold it against you, but when that day of judgment comes... I pity you.

 

[Cliff_m85]

(As a Christian, I'd like to say that Westboro Baptist Church can go screw itself.)

You could say that without being a Christian and it'd still be just as valid.

My point was that they do not represent Christianity as a whole and even we're against them.

I respect the WBC a bit more than other Christians. Atleast they follow the Bible more literally without the heretical apologetics.

Um..... No....?

They honestly do not follow the bible. They pick and choose and if we followed it literally we'd be allowed to sell our sisters into slavery and kill our boss for working on Sunday and women wouldn't be allowed to work or vote and we'd kill people for going to a steakhouse on Friday and etc etc etc....

I didn't say 100% literally, just 'more literally'. They are still heretics. Though some of those rules you tossed out were done away with when Jesus went on his suicide-mission (so any rampant murdering, raping, torturing, and whatnot was perfectly acceptable by loving merciful god before that event occurred).

 

[Cliff_m85]

The difference being that we wouldn't build a lego airplane with cancer.....or AIDS.....or unnecessary wisdom teeth...or as hermaphrodites...or with mental disorders.... (to be continued)

It wouldn't be much fun if God made us all perfect, now would it? He puts trials in our lives so that we can love through hardship. Love both others and God. The purpose of man is to glorify God... but that glorification wouldn't mean much if we were just robots that said "God is good" constantly.

Instead, we have a choice. We can hate God for our suffering or we can glorify him despite it.

Yeah, thank you god for Diabetes! And for child rape!

People ask the question... "if God is so good, then why does bad stuff happen?" That's asking the question completely wrong. Ask it like this, "If there is a powerful, loving God out there who knows what I did and thought about yesterday... then why didn't he kill me in my sleep?"

When you ask it the first way, you're putting the problem up there. That's already violating what we're discussing here... I believe in a perfect God. But ask it the second way, and the problem is you and me and every other person out there, just the way it should be. The way it is.

One of God's gifts to us is choice. You can chose to be a child molester, but rest assured God will deal with you when the time comes. My choice? I've chosen to take God's free gift of eternal life. You can chose what you will and I won't hold it against you, but when that day of judgment comes... I pity you.

What choice does a child have when pressed against a pew with his pants down?

Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world. Maybe just a little too much though.

 

[darthzew]

I believe that God is eternal and that he made us. He is his own being.

I believe that the Bible is literal.

"God's world" would disagree with you.

God's world? Do you mean God's word?