What ACTUALLY gives you hope for humanity?
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Complete agreement. That a religion is presumably based in a scientific lie is no real reason to criticize it; though the horrifying harmful dogmas they empirically have always held certainly are.Cypher10110 said:
Complete disagreement.
"Religion" is by definition a "system of shared beliefs", which must be dogmatic (otherwise there's nothing to share), and is very often absolutist as well in that it claims to be the only way to salvation (and sometimes even outright threaten those will not convert).
While it may be possible to interpret parts of the supposed "holy" scriptures as allegorical, they are still dogmatic, as is the values they teach.
Looking at the general outline of a "religion", and asking "why?" (and far more importantly, "do I think this is ethical?") is the hallmark of "Personal faith" inspired (in part) by one or more religion(s), but has nothing to do with the shared dogmas; Generalities which everyone subjectively draws out of a text, then proceed to fill out for themselves at will cannot be shared, and pose no system. Such are mere (personal) "belief/faith", which no reasoned anti-religious person care to criticise as a term.
I can't stand people who say that they have no faith in humanity. Yea, there may be a lot of shit in the world, but the goodness more than makes up for it. We have thousands of years of great art and technology standing as a testament to humanity. If anything, the everyday shittyness gives specialness to the great art and science. I could go as far as saying that we have great art because of shittyness.
Think how far we have come compared to 100 years ago. Think where we will go in the next hundred years. I can't actually imagine a way that you wouldn't see hope in humanity, appart from beligerently sticking to negativity out of some misplaced desire for pessimism.
On the whole religion thing, speaking as an atheist, I think it's very difficult to get on our high horse, especially considering our performance last century. Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot were all atheists. I'm not saying that it's because they were atheists that they did all the terrible things they did, I'm just saying that a small percentage of people are massive bellends, and will be under the banner of atheism as much as under the banner of religious belief.
Christian belief (the sort that most reasonable people hold, not Creationism or any of that crap) is nowhere near as irrational as atheists seem to make it out to be. The book "The Reason for God" by Timothy Keller, showed me that even if I don't believe in God, there are some compelling arguments for his existence. I won't outline them because my pen portraits will not do justice to the arguments. There are plenty of perfectly rational, well educated people who are Christians, including scientists.
Think how far we have come compared to 100 years ago. Think where we will go in the next hundred years. I can't actually imagine a way that you wouldn't see hope in humanity, appart from beligerently sticking to negativity out of some misplaced desire for pessimism.
On the whole religion thing, speaking as an atheist, I think it's very difficult to get on our high horse, especially considering our performance last century. Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot were all atheists. I'm not saying that it's because they were atheists that they did all the terrible things they did, I'm just saying that a small percentage of people are massive bellends, and will be under the banner of atheism as much as under the banner of religious belief.
Christian belief (the sort that most reasonable people hold, not Creationism or any of that crap) is nowhere near as irrational as atheists seem to make it out to be. The book "The Reason for God" by Timothy Keller, showed me that even if I don't believe in God, there are some compelling arguments for his existence. I won't outline them because my pen portraits will not do justice to the arguments. There are plenty of perfectly rational, well educated people who are Christians, including scientists.
Beautiful music i.e http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlfngjWKt8&playnext=1&videos=2K4od5XLSFU&feature=sub
Well, this is going to seem wierd. Globalwarming, polution and the death of milions. No one florishes without geting through
horrible stuff, if most of mankind die, whats left will evolve and be better, till we don't have to work for our
exisens anymore. Mabye im strange for thinking this but yes, the death of thousands, milions, gives me hope.
horrible stuff, if most of mankind die, whats left will evolve and be better, till we don't have to work for our
exisens anymore. Mabye im strange for thinking this but yes, the death of thousands, milions, gives me hope.
Thanks for the ninja.Skullkid4187 said:
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It is indeed a beautiful thing. It is a shame some people have cheapened the value of the word Christian.
That there are people like this in the world. I hope more and more people can understand and adopt this method of intelligent thinking.Cypher10110 said:
Jedamethis said:
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No, I have hope for humanity to someday let our differences go and unite and move into space.
Like the post made a couple of days ago. Now only hope we will make it in time before we nuked ourselfes to dust.
Ditto. Simply the fact that someone on this website can, and did, say that honestly is something to give me hope for humanity. If more people were like you, and weren't rabidly anti-religion, (or worse, psycho-nutjob religious) we might actually have something here.Skullkid4187 said:
Something else that makes me like people? Reading about awesome individuals. Seriously, if our species can crank out the likes of Theodore Roosevelt, there has to be something good about us.