What ACTUALLY gives you hope for humanity?

[Cypher10110]

The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.

I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.

I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger

Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.

The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.

Atheism is not a belief or a way of life.
It is merely not believing that there is a higher deity.
So to say "I see atheism hasn't thought you that" is very ignorant.

And every thing everyone has been saying against me isn't?

Religion causes more hate than Atheism does.

For instance, if everyone was Atheist the situation in the middle east at the moment wouldn't exist. There wouldn't have been countless wars over the "holy land" because there wouldn't be anything to fight over.

Think of how many people have killed and been killed in the name of whatever god.

How many people have been killed in the name of atheism?
None.

Have you ever been in a club Friday night at 2am? There's always something to fight about...

Beliefs are not important. VALUES are important. (Values are what you hold as important, if you want to believe that there is purpose other than the values yourself you are free to do so)
In real-people speak: don't be a dick/love thy neighbour

The message of the bible or any other holy book is important, not the words it uses to convey that message. People all get tied up in the specifics. Look at the generalities, and ask "why?". God is within, not without. He is Plato's "good".

I am an atheist, I enjoy reading religious stories, stories designed to TEACH TRUTHS, not stories designed to be taken as FACTUAL TRUTH. I do not disrespect those who hold religious beliefs, because it is a thin line that separates me from them, that line is the line of the agnostic. I would say I'm a realist agnostic, I think that either god and the afterlife are poetic metaphors (and are to be taken as lessons, not facts), or there is a god and/or afterlife that could only barely resemble any image we could draw of it.

You can ask questions like "How can gay marriage ever be legal? (word of god/love)" you should ask "What is the purpose of marriage? What is primary, what is secondary? Are gay marriage and hetro marriage mutually exclusive? What are the social implications?".

Truth brings people together, lies divide us. Perceived truth has some truth in it (and some lies), Perceived lies have some lies in them (and some truth). There can be truth in a lie and lies in truth. Get over your bias, listen and be heard.

There are walls between us that we have built. I don't expect these walls to be broken in my lifetime but it pains me to see people drawing their lines in the sand nonetheless.

 

[Cypher10110]

the hope that somewhere out there is another person like me

You are an individual, you are not alone.

 

[Thedayrecker]

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about hope? And now it's a religious arguement....

 

[Funkysandwich]

The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.

I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.

I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger

Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.

The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.

Atheism is not a belief or a way of life.
It is merely not believing that there is a higher deity.
So to say "I see atheism hasn't thought you that" is very ignorant.

And every thing everyone has been saying against me isn't?

Religion causes more hate than Atheism does.

For instance, if everyone was Atheist the situation in the middle east at the moment wouldn't exist. There wouldn't have been countless wars over the "holy land" because there wouldn't be anything to fight over.

Think of how many people have killed and been killed in the name of whatever god.

How many people have been killed in the name of atheism?
None.

Have you ever been in a club Friday night at 2am? There's always something to fight about...

That has nothing to do with personal beliefs though.

Besides, I don't have the figures in front of me, but I'm pretty sure that more people have been killed in religious wars than nightclub brawls.

Same goes for whoever bought up the Columbine shootings. Even if that was relevant (which it isn't), many more have been killed over religion.

Saying an Atheist starts a fight is one thing. But do they start fights because they are Atheist? In most cases, no.

 

[Funkysandwich]

The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.

I personally would love to hear you reasoning on why Christianity of all things gives you hope. My views are the complete opposite.

OT: That humanity appears to becoming into a new glorious age, we are shedding off the more ignorant and wrong ways of thinking. More people becoming atheist, laws are being made on what is right, rather than the personal feelings of a single person, the fact that we are finally doing good in the middle east and how far we have come in such a short time.

I'd love to see you reason atheism is "saving the world" Because from where i stand it causes so much hate and anger

Because it is a more rational way of thinking. Religion forces you to form your ideas around an an ancient book that has no practical use in today's world, it forces you to live in fear, it forces you to accept whatever it says as absolute truth.

Also, you neglected to answer my question.

The Bible is a way to live by and I choose to be a good person. I see atheism hasn't taught you that.

Atheism is not a belief or a way of life.
It is merely not believing that there is a higher deity.
So to say "I see atheism hasn't thought you that" is very ignorant.

And every thing everyone has been saying against me isn't?

Religion causes more hate than Atheism does.

For instance, if everyone was Atheist the situation in the middle east at the moment wouldn't exist. There wouldn't have been countless wars over the "holy land" because there wouldn't be anything to fight over.

Think of how many people have killed and been killed in the name of whatever god.

How many people have been killed in the name of atheism?
None.

Have you ever been in a club Friday night at 2am? There's always something to fight about...

Beliefs are not important. VALUES are important. (Values are what you hold as important, if you want to believe that there is purpose other than the values yourself you are free to do so)
In real-people speak: don't be a dick/love thy neighbour

The message of the bible or any other holy book is important, not the words it uses to convey that message. People all get tied up in the specifics. Look at the generalities, and ask "why?". God is within, not without. He is Plato's "good".

I am an atheist, I enjoy reading religious stories, stories designed to TEACH TRUTHS, not stories designed to be taken as FACTUAL TRUTH. I do not disrespect those who hold religious beliefs, because it is a thin line that separates me from them, that line is the line of the agnostic. I would say I'm a realist agnostic, I think that either god and the afterlife are poetic metaphors (and are to be taken as lessons, not facts), or there is a god and/or afterlife that could only barely resemble any image we could draw of it.

You can ask questions like "How can gay marriage ever be legal? (word of god/love)" you should ask "What is the purpose of marriage? What is primary, what is secondary? Are gay marriage and hetro marriage mutually exclusive? What are the social implications?".

Truth brings people together, lies divide us. Perceived truth has some truth in it (and some lies), Perceived lies have some lies in them (and some truth). There can be truth in a lie and lies in truth. Get over your bias, listen and be heard.

There are walls between us that we have built. I don't expect these walls to be broken in my lifetime but it pains me to see people drawing their lines in the sand nonetheless.

That is what people do. They divide themselves up according to who thinks what and then squabble like seagulls fighting over a chip.

It's what we've always done, and what we'll always do. It's stupid, pointless and counter-productive, but that is what we are.

I would rather see people live under two basic rules: Never harm anybody else and never cause harm to yourself. If you think about it in depth, it would solve a great many of the worlds problems. I can't be bothered explaining it, but the benefits to society, government and business are quite staggering, if you consider it seriously.

And yes, I am a devout agnostic, and I have read the bible in depth and there is a lot we can learn from it. It's not really something that you can take as historical fact though.

 

[Paddin]

We only had one hope, John Lennon, and he was killed. When he died, my hope dieded with him.

According to your Escapist profile John Lennon died 15 years before you were born, so that isn't true.

My hope for humanity comes in those random moments of kindness you see in day to day life, such as the bus driver telling a queue of people that this bus ride is "on him" and letting them ride for free (happened to me once). Those random moments in this world give me hope.

That said, I haven't lost hope in humanity. The news may be filled with headlines of doom and destruction but that is because that makes the news. The good things in life can't be published under a headline on the 5 o clock news.

 

[Zenn3k]

The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.

Oh god, if I reply to you I'll get another temp ban.

I'm almost willing to risk a perma ban myself....almost...

 

[Zenn3k]

The only HOPE I have for humanity is that we'll soon eradicate ourselves.

 

[mayney93]

i'd probably have to say science, i hope we perfect it to the level that scenes out of starwars are possible, as in the lightspeed etc not the giant metallic ball of planet destroying power

 

[Ayush Passi]

Humanity itself.
I am an atheist, but I don't hate religion, or have anything against it. But, I do feel that it constricts people.

 

[Mr Cwtchy]

My one hope is that The Hobbit turns out to be a smashing success. If that happens, then my hope for humanity will be rekindled for a few years at least.

 

[Thedayrecker]

SEX

If it didn't feel great, we would have died off a long time ago. There's your answer.

statistically 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape

I love that joke.

 

[ZeroMachine]

This does:

In my book, that guys a fucking hero, simply for making so many people smile. I would give almost anything to do what he does.

As for me, one of the things that undoubtedly gives me hope for humanity is, believe it or not, my girlfriend. Although it makes me worry about her sometimes, she's incredibly selfless. She helped a friend of mine out even though that friend damn near hated her. Now, the two are good friends. She hasn't exactly done a ton to help humanity, but every little step counts, you know?

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about hope? And now it's a religious arguement....

Damn, am I really that late to the party? Maybe I can get this back on track with my post?

... Nah. But I'll leave it here for posterity's sake.

 

[Captain Pirate]

I actually have quite a lot of hope in humanity. I mean, I am one. Might as well root for the home team.

Exactly. That's reason enough for me.
But there's plenty more stuff. Music. Just, in general. And humanity's imagination. Great examples in my opinion are practical yet revolutionary inventions like the lightbulb, the discovery of gravity, to more artistic things like the recent Inception film, come to think of it films in general, the discovery of paint, and my favorite things like the second Harry Potter film/book/game, and the Bad Company game series.
Oh, and finally, chocolate and the AA-12 shotgun. Someone thought one day, "I wonder if that plant's beans can be used to make something completely different?" and "I want to be able to shoot a shotgun round that can tear a man apart, at 300 rounds a minute. Just 'cause."

 

[Arachon]

At this very moment, 2600 [http://www.2600.com], bought the summer issue two days ago, finished it today, it is nice to see that there are so many bright and interesting persons out there, and that they have better things to do than waste their creative energy into working for some megacorporation or another.

 

[ReaperzXIII]

The one hope. THE ONE HOPE i have left for the human race is Christianity. It gives me hope.

Oh god, if I reply to you I'll get another temp ban.

I'm almost willing to risk a perma ban myself....almost...

Why are you some of you atheists so condescending and judgemental, believing in god makes as much sense as believing that randomly out of aboslutely nothing, there was an explosion that coincedentally had the exact correct factors to create life. A lot of you see all the bad stuff in religion because you only pay attention to extremists but not everyone that belongs to a religion is complete illogical zealots.

On topic: Intelligence and video games

 

[Terminate421]

Christianity, also the fact that we have nukes as weapons.

It's soo hard not to flame the crap out of you right now.

The good news is that the nukes part was sarcasm. In reality, my religion (Christianity) is my only hope

 

[AlphonseRomano]

Mostly the fact that we haven't managed to completely off ourselves yet