What in the world happened to Stefani Germanotta/Lady Gaga?

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Bobic said:
She became awesome, that's what happened.
Seconded. Well, awesome might be too strong a word for my opinion of her, seeing as I only listen to her out of coincidence, but her new stuff is a damn sight better than this. At least she's found a way to make a vocals word as Lady Gaga.
 

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LiquidGrape said:
Before this notion that Gaga is bereft of talent spins out of control;


As for her image, it's one of few original acts in modern pop music. That if anything ought to be applauded.
Even before she became Lady Gaga she had a lot of talent in the style of a jazz singer.


The ironic thing about this is that one of the lyrics in there is "fame is our felony."
 

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She writes her own stuff, I think her songs are good (specially the ones which haven't been released if you listen to the album) otherwise she still wouldn't be in the spotlight.
She had to change to make herself noticed, she dyed her hair so people would stop confusing her with Amy Winehouse and wears outlandish clothes (her own, Haus of Gaga) to set herself apart from the other singers out there.
Her old stuff was good but she wouldn't make much statement if she stayed like that. Anyone remember KT Tunstell? She was quite similar to that, brunette, normal clothing, played her own music. Don't know what happened to her.
 

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The reason Lady GaGa is dressed up like a moron, and comes off as a complete nutcase, is because her record company deemed her less attractive than her competitors, and came up with something else to compensate.

Anyways. Yeah, turns out, she's a massive sellout.
 

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tghm1801 said:
She grew up?
I think that her music is MUCH better now and I think that she has really become a totally different and unique artist.
I believe she is really good for the music industry.
agreed, matured as an artist, and i am not even being sarcastic. people need to recognise that she is good, even if they do not like the style she uses.

Just because it is pop doesn't mean it is bad. like christina aguilera in the 90's, that girl could sing, but she was piled ontop of the jessica simpson and britney spears pile, such a shame
 

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PsychoticForesight said:
Yes this is who lady gaga used to be....I was honestly shocked to learn this,How did a pretty girl,with great ideas and songs become the Queen of Crazy....
This type of generic pop-rock is commercially dead. If she kept at that old style she would be nowhere today, and if that old "Stefani" EP of hers came across my desk at work I would have just put in the "meh" file. Production is terrible, the snare drum sounds like a tennis racquet, her vocal ability is the only good thing about it. There's no way something like that could compete with the better rock artists out there today. By moving to a more well-crafted pure pop-based style that suits her vocal talents better, and also reworking her image... well, the results speak for themselves.
 

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PsychoticForesight said:

Yes this is who lady gaga used to be....I was honestly shocked to learn this,How did a pretty girl,with great ideas and songs become the Queen of Crazy....Any ideas or personal thoughts?Personally my jaw dropped and I was dumbstruck.

She saw and cloned Marylin Manson's Shock Factor xD
 

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EmileeElectro said:
She writes her own stuff, I think her songs are good (specially the ones which haven't been released if you listen to the album) otherwise she still wouldn't be in the spotlight.
She had to change to make herself noticed, she dyed her hair so people would stop confusing her with Amy Winehouse and wears outlandish clothes (her own, Haus of Gaga) to set herself apart from the other singers out there.
Her old stuff was good but she wouldn't make much statement if she stayed like that. Anyone remember KT Tunstell? She was quite similar to that, brunette, normal clothing, played her own music. Don't know what happened to her.
Well...Yeah,but I find sad that to stand out in today's world you have to completely alter yourself dress like an asylum escapee and sing like you have brillo pads in your throat to stand out,and and her mew truckloads of money probably didn't hurt,Today's society is based upon image,scandals and publicity...And I think it's a bit wrong,but alas I must be crazy.
 

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WanderFreak said:
It's ironic isn't it?

Original Gaga is somewhat generic. "Wow, look at that, why did she stop doing that!"

New Gaga is fucking insane, different, interesting. "Same garbage we've seen over and over again. Old Gaga was better."

Make up your mind internet, seriously.
Don't you get it yet?

Everything popular sucks and should be insulted continuously.

Anything obscure gets an additional 30 cool points.
 

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PsychoticForesight said:
EmileeElectro said:
She writes her own stuff, I think her songs are good (specially the ones which haven't been released if you listen to the album) otherwise she still wouldn't be in the spotlight.
She had to change to make herself noticed, she dyed her hair so people would stop confusing her with Amy Winehouse and wears outlandish clothes (her own, Haus of Gaga) to set herself apart from the other singers out there.
Her old stuff was good but she wouldn't make much statement if she stayed like that. Anyone remember KT Tunstell? She was quite similar to that, brunette, normal clothing, played her own music. Don't know what happened to her.
Well...Yeah,but I find sad that to stand out in today's world you have to completely alter yourself dress like an asylum escapee and sing like you have brillo pads in your throat to stand out,and and her mew truckloads of money probably didn't hurt,Today's society is based upon image,scandals and publicity...And I think it's a bit wrong,but alas I must be crazy.
True, I guess. Back in my day we had one female singer a country and she'd have one dress and everyone would be happy!
It's probably because there's SO many celebrities now a days, you have to set yourself apart somehow. And we're a lot more easier about outlandish clothes and sexualisation now. Imagine Gaga in the 50s? She's be burned as a with!
 

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Bobic said:
WanderFreak said:
It's ironic isn't it?

Original Gaga is somewhat generic. "Wow, look at that, why did she stop doing that!"

New Gaga is fucking insane, different, interesting. "Same garbage we've seen over and over again. Old Gaga was better."

Make up your mind internet, seriously.
Don't you get it yet?

Everything popular sucks and should be insulted continuously.

Anything obscure gets an additional 30 cool points.
I don't hate new gaga because she's popular,I hate her because I believe she's trying too hard to act deep and poetic while in reality she isn't,and people praise her doing what Madonna did,I like Stefani Germanetta because her lyrics had more meaning to me,she wasn't singing like she swallowed a computer,people could relate to her, and she used actual instruments instead of beat generating nonsense.Thats why I hate Gaga.
 

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Bobic said:
FieryTrainwreck said:
Konrad Curze said:
Crazy sold better... Think what you want about her, fact is she is rich and famous while other, more talented and more sane artists are totally unknown.
So don't knock it if it works.
If you change who you are and what you do in order to broaden your appeal, you're more the art than the artist.

Some of the most amazing artists of all time made little or no money. I wish we didn't associate the two so closely.
Couldn't you say becoming the art is even more artistic though?

Also art is subjective, the fact that you don't enjoy it doesn't mean it's in any way worse.
Becoming the art makes you a performance artist, which Lady Gaga very admittedly... is.

I'm not going to be dragged into a larger discussion about art. People trot out the all-purpose "subjectivity" shield, I accuse them of being too lazy to work towards legitimate classifications, and no one convinces anyone of anything. Suffice it to say, I don't think the subjectivity principle was meant to protect shitty art from valid criticism.

Instead, I'll just say that I think Lady Gaga is a completely disposable artist. They won't play her songs on the radio ten years from now, and no one will remember her antics either. She's another in a long line of replaceable quasi-divas who put immeasurably greater emphasis on shock-value and the superficial than craft and innovation. People laugh at her fans now, and most of her fans will join in 10-20 years down the line when they realize how goofy they were as kids.
 

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FieryTrainwreck said:
-snippity snip-

Becoming the art makes you a performance artist, which Lady Gaga very admittedly... is.

I'm not going to be dragged into a larger discussion about art. People trot out the all-purpose "subjectivity" shield, I accuse them of being too lazy to work towards legitimate classifications, and no one convinces anyone of anything. Suffice it to say, I don't think the subjectivity principle was meant to protect shitty art from valid criticism.

Instead, I'll just say that I think Lady Gaga is a completely disposable artist. They won't play her songs on the radio ten years from now, and no one will remember her antics either. She's another in a long line of replaceable quasi-divas who put immeasurably greater emphasis on shock-value and the superficial than craft and innovation. People laugh at her fans now, and most of her fans will join in 10-20 years down the line when they realize how goofy they were as kids.
I bet you the pricely sum of 12 pounds that her stuff is still played on the radio in 10 years.

Also looking back and laughing at something applies to many popular artists (elton john, bee jees, kool and the gang etc.) that still (occasionally) get played. That just adds to the cheesy fun of it all.
 

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EmileeElectro said:
PsychoticForesight said:
EmileeElectro said:
She writes her own stuff, I think her songs are good (specially the ones which haven't been released if you listen to the album) otherwise she still wouldn't be in the spotlight.
She had to change to make herself noticed, she dyed her hair so people would stop confusing her with Amy Winehouse and wears outlandish clothes (her own, Haus of Gaga) to set herself apart from the other singers out there.
Her old stuff was good but she wouldn't make much statement if she stayed like that. Anyone remember KT Tunstell? She was quite similar to that, brunette, normal clothing, played her own music. Don't know what happened to her.
Well...Yeah,but I find sad that to stand out in today's world you have to completely alter yourself dress like an asylum escapee and sing like you have brillo pads in your throat to stand out,and and her mew truckloads of money probably didn't hurt,Today's society is based upon image,scandals and publicity...And I think it's a bit wrong,but alas I must be crazy.
True, I guess. Back in my day we had one female singer a country and she'd have one dress and everyone would be happy!
It's probably because there's SO many celebrities now a days, you have to set yourself apart somehow. And we're a lot more easier about outlandish clothes and sexualisation now. Imagine Gaga in the 50s? She's be burned as a with!
Fame and fortune is the problem,Gaga likes to act outlandish because thats what sells,Too many singers weird up and you can barely tell them apart,everyone now a days is going for that "I'm different,I'm a spectacle."Approach,Rappers act like thugs but if they did half as much as they said they'd be in prison.Stefani's songs I could at the very least relate to especially "Wish you were here." But I don't think anyone can relate to her now,And at least singers in the 50's like Ella Fitzgerald sang about things that mattered.But once again my usernames Psychotic for a reason,nobody listen to me for I am as the name suggests mad as a loon.
 

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Disaster Button said:
LiquidGrape said:
Before this notion that Gaga is bereft of talent spins out of control;


As for her image, it's one of few original acts in modern pop music. That if anything ought to be applauded.
Even before she became Lady Gaga she had a lot of talent in the style of a jazz singer.


The ironic thing about this is that one of the lyrics in there is "fame is our felony."
Fucking listen to that, people. Listen to that, and tell me, with a straight face, that that woman does NOT have talent. She has a BEAUTIFUL voice, amazing compositional skills, and is in general a wonderful musician. Pop music isn't my cup of tea, but I know when to say that this person has a lot of talent and that she's GREAT for the industry considering the other acts like Kaydollarsignuh, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Beiber, Cyrus...almost every popular artist suck balls.