What in the world happened to Stefani Germanotta/Lady Gaga?

[Blackvegie]

I think she was hotter and not as musically talented back then.

Plus she wasn't wearing guns on her bra so modern Gaga wins.

 

[Littlee300]

That's Lady Gaga? No way! She has gone through quite a change since then...

Imagine what her friends were thinking... (if she had any)
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We need a therapist find out what happened to her brain, because i am very curious.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

-snippity snip-

Becoming the art makes you a performance artist, which Lady Gaga very admittedly... is.

I'm not going to be dragged into a larger discussion about art. People trot out the all-purpose "subjectivity" shield, I accuse them of being too lazy to work towards legitimate classifications, and no one convinces anyone of anything. Suffice it to say, I don't think the subjectivity principle was meant to protect shitty art from valid criticism.

Instead, I'll just say that I think Lady Gaga is a completely disposable artist. They won't play her songs on the radio ten years from now, and no one will remember her antics either. She's another in a long line of replaceable quasi-divas who put immeasurably greater emphasis on shock-value and the superficial than craft and innovation. People laugh at her fans now, and most of her fans will join in 10-20 years down the line when they realize how goofy they were as kids.

I bet you the pricely sum of 12 pounds that her stuff is still played on the radio in 10 years.

Also looking back and laughing at something applies to many popular artists (elton john, bee jees, kool and the gang etc.) that still (occasionally) get played. That just adds to the cheesy fun of it all.

I enjoy cheesy stuff all the time. I don't call it art, especially if it's not remotely self-aware. There's not even a tinge of irony to Gaga.

No way to really collect on a bet, one way or the other, but you think Gaga will get play on the radio ten years after she stops making music? I guess I didn't really specify, but it's a no brainer that she'll get play on new stuff - because record companies will buy off the stations like they do now in order to push whatever they've crapped out lately.

 

[Littlee300]

The old her looks a lot more relate-able but the new her. That is the kind of person you back away slowly from...

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Fucking listen to that, people. Listen to that, and tell me, with a straight face, that that woman does NOT have talent. She has a BEAUTIFUL voice, amazing compositional skills, and is in general a wonderful musician. Pop music isn't my cup of tea, but I know when to say that this person has a lot of talent and that she's GREAT for the industry considering the other acts like Kaydollarsignuh, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Beiber, Cyrus...almost every popular artist suck balls.

The only thing I take away from that clip of pre-Gaga music is that legitimate talent is a barrier to fame and fortune in this industry. The moment she adopted generic electronic production, mindless pop lyrics, and sensationalist fashion antics, her popularity skyrocketed. Her willful devolution into Gaga is a fantastic indictment of pop music and the people who support it.

I made myself sad.

 

[nick n stuff]

it's just the times. it's the same as hair metal in the 80s. outrageousness sells. would Motley Crue and KISS me as big if they looked like Nirvana. it's just unfortunate that Gaga isn't as good as Crue cos then maybe i could stand her.

Man i love hair metal

 

[Littlee300]

Who's Lady Gaga?

please say you are being sarcastic

Well you see, I live under this rock.....

Ahh right, that explains it! well this is Lady Gaga =)

Who is her fashion designer? Whoever he/she is, he/she is... uhh... original.

 

[Safe in the Dark]

Fucking listen to that, people. Listen to that, and tell me, with a straight face, that that woman does NOT have talent. She has a BEAUTIFUL voice, amazing compositional skills, and is in general a wonderful musician. Pop music isn't my cup of tea, but I know when to say that this person has a lot of talent and that she's GREAT for the industry considering the other acts like Kaydollarsignuh, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Beiber, Cyrus...almost every popular artist suck balls.

The only thing I take away from that clip of pre-Gaga music is that legitimate talent is a barrier to fame and fortune in this industry. The moment she adopted generic electronic production, mindless pop lyrics, and sensationalist fashion antics, her popularity skyrocketed. Her willful devolution into Gaga is a fantastic indictment of pop music and the people who support it.

I made myself sad.

I second this with as much strength as I can,She had to throw away great talent and become a freakshow for more people to listen.

You just made me sad too.

 

[JonnoStrife]

I blame video games.

I loled.

OT: She got gobbled up by the mass media production machine.

 

[Outlaw Torn]

I blame video games.

Violent ones?

 

[Aerodyamic]

I voted for 'Don't know, don't care, if other people like it, they can have it.'

Wait, it wasn't a poll?

 

[Bobic]

-snippity snip-

Becoming the art makes you a performance artist, which Lady Gaga very admittedly... is.

I'm not going to be dragged into a larger discussion about art. People trot out the all-purpose "subjectivity" shield, I accuse them of being too lazy to work towards legitimate classifications, and no one convinces anyone of anything. Suffice it to say, I don't think the subjectivity principle was meant to protect shitty art from valid criticism.

Instead, I'll just say that I think Lady Gaga is a completely disposable artist. They won't play her songs on the radio ten years from now, and no one will remember her antics either. She's another in a long line of replaceable quasi-divas who put immeasurably greater emphasis on shock-value and the superficial than craft and innovation. People laugh at her fans now, and most of her fans will join in 10-20 years down the line when they realize how goofy they were as kids.

I bet you the pricely sum of 12 pounds that her stuff is still played on the radio in 10 years.

Also looking back and laughing at something applies to many popular artists (elton john, bee jees, kool and the gang etc.) that still (occasionally) get played. That just adds to the cheesy fun of it all.

I enjoy cheesy stuff all the time. I don't call it art, especially if it's not remotely self-aware. There's not even a tinge of irony to Gaga.

No way to really collect on a bet, one way or the other, but you think Gaga will get play on the radio ten years after she stops making music? I guess I didn't really specify, but it's a no brainer that she'll get play on new stuff - because record companies will buy off the stations like they do now in order to push whatever they've crapped out lately.

To be fair I wouldn't call it art either, was just responding to someone else referring to the artiness. I do listen to stuff that I would call artistic and creative and all that jazz but sometimes you just wanna listen to the awesome cheesy junk. It's like the audio equivalent of eating at pizza hut over a professional italian pizzeria, you know the pizzeria is much higher quality but you just love the greasy fatty indulgent mess you can only get with fast food.

Also, yes even ten years after her music career is over I think she'll still get some airplay because I believe she is one of the better pop musicians of the moment, possibly the best.

Also, also, I do get quite a strong hint of irony from her, could all be in my head though.

 

[Safe in the Dark]

I only feel obliged to judge an artist when they waste their talent. Her new persona, Lady Gaga, is an embarrassment. Its all show, just getting reactions from people. Publicity. I have no respect for Lady Gaga. But I have the utmost respect for Stefani Germanotta. That side of her is the actual musician.When she's herself... Well, I'm left speechless.

 

[The Lost Big Boss]

One word, Marketing.

 

[johnman]

I would find it ironic if she was now rich and successful but hates herself for what she has become

 

[Terramax]

I was honestly shocked to learn this,How did a pretty girl,with great ideas and songs become the Queen of Crazy.

Fame and money.

/end thread

 

[darkkan2125]

demonic possesion?

 

[clipse15]

I only feel obliged to judge an artist when they waste their talent. Her new persona, Lady Gaga, is an embarrassment. Its all show, just getting reactions from people. Publicity. I have no respect for Lady Gaga. But I have the utmost respect for Stefani Germanotta. That side of her is the actual musician.When she's herself... Well, I'm left speechless.

You think KISS was dressed like that in their regular life? You think Madonna did her grocery shopping in a crazy costume? You think the Gorillaz are real cartoons? Of course its a show. I know you've never been in the media industry but you really do need to stand out to be different. She saw that one way wasn't working so she switched it up. Sorry but int he real world people need money and she saw a way to make it so I don't blame her at all and I respect the fact that she can grab peoples attention with her escentric style. It reminds me of why I loved Busta Rhymes back in the day

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[sabbat]

Changed her hair colour, got rich/famous and grew a dick too, apparently.

Yeah... It's a stunning revelation that she was once a girl! Looks like I owe friends money.

 

[Nickisimo]

I barely know who this person is. I just see her name in news articles like, "Lady Gaga insults a shitton of people" or "Lady Gaga wears Astronaut outfit". Same for Amy Whinehouse.

Celebrities do absolutely nothing for me. I really don't understand the fascination. I especially don't understand the stupid magazines that show pictures of these people doing normal things as if we're supposed to be impressed. "Ooh, a picture of Miley Cyrus walking down a street! This must be front page news!"