What was the biggest screw-up in American history?

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Shul Cooper

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What about the farm bill? We're wasting money making third world countries poorer. I know there are much worse things but it's something that we could easily change. That and illegal cannabis.
 

This-is-Hip-Hop

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avidabey said:
This-is-Hip-Hop said:
Well, yes, it was great for Japenese Relations, and was part of Teddy Roosevelts "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick" plan, though the act of doing this, gave the United States more reason to promote racisim, hance the "White" in the "White Fleet". Though, this is not truly 100% bad thing, hence my lack of mentioning it as the worst presidental mistake. But, the past is the past, we are not as racist now. Though I have to agree with you, Grant's mistake was pretty drastic, and is the sole reason why he was the worst President ever, probably even worse then Bush.

-This-is-Hip-Hop
That's...That's wrong. So wrong...

It was given the name of Great White Fleet after it had circumnavigated the world, and it was called that because the ships were white. Not racism - the color of the ships.
Yes, it could be seen that way, and for those wishing to turn a blind eye from previous events then yes, it could be considered White paint. Though earlier, McKinley, the president before Roosevelt was responible for the aquistion of the Phillipines, and the other territores aquired from the Spanish-American War. This president was issued the "White Man's Burden" esentially meaning he had the Go-ahead to "Civilize" the "Savage" tribes of the islands, and along with that China, Japan, and the Native Americans. This ideal of "Helping our Little Brown Brother" was passed down to the Progressive Teddy Roosevelt, though he was no were near as racist as McKinley, who prayed to God, and came upon a decision to "Civilize, Capitalize, and Christanize, our little Brown Brothers".

Though Teddy Roosevelt still had the progressive mindset of "help those less fortunate", even if those less fortunate would be better off without us.

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I'd have to go with a tie between slavery, colonization, and the government deciding not to help the citizens during the beginning of the Great Depression, just letting it get worse.
 

Clashero

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American Football.
And an annihilation of the English language that would have made Big Brother say "Ninja'd!"


On a more serious note, freeing slaves. Think about it, really. They were better off as slaves. Most slaves either became servants or soldiers.
A slave gets a proper funeral and burial. A servant doesn't. He just dies.
A slave gets food, safety and a home to live in. A servant got some meager money, not enough to buy food, safety and a home to live in.
A sick slave would be taken care of by the owner's own doctor, and receive the best possible care. A sick servant wouldn't get her day's pay until she got back to work.
On the other hand, things got relatively normal once all slaves and sons of slaves died, so it's a bit of a tradeoff. The freed slaves had a rough time so that their descendants could live "normally". I stress the inverted commas.
 

Hunde Des Krieg

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Why are these threads always about what's wrong with America? Why isn't there a: "What is the Dumbest thing the British/English/whatever they are calling themselves have done"?
 
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I would have to say the Iraq War

"They have weapons of mass destruction!" Bush say

3 yeares later:

"My bad" Bush says again.

Now, if the U.S. leaves they look like pussies for leaving and not helping people, but if the U.S. stays they get ridiculed for being where they don't belong.
 

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For some reason something tells me almost everyone posting here is against the goverment compltely or a resident of a foriegn power that hates America, or Bush haters/blamers

you basturds
 

Zetona

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Acaroid said:
Zetona said:
Acaroid said:
Letting the Canadians burn down your capital, face it you will never let it down XD
It was the Brits, not the Canadians. Canada wasn't even independent until 1867 at earliest. I don't know why, but as an American, this irks me.
Upper and Lower Canada appeared on the Map in 1792, so you could say that Canadians in red coats, burnt the White House. The Constitutional Act came into effect on December 26, 1791. Canada was still a British Colony and truly self ruled country however. But then again saying that they didn't burn down the white house would be like saying Americans didn't fight for their independance, using that thinking i guess the french were the only nation fighting for US independance.

So I guess we can consider anything that happened in the U.S. before the declaration of Independance is actually British history, and not U.S. history?
The entire thing implies that Canada invaded the US,which isn't true. Only Britain has ever done so. Washington was burned by an invading force that landed in the Chesapeake Bay and marched to the capital.
 

Hunde Des Krieg

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Irridium said:
I would have to say the Iraq War

"They have weapons of mass destruction!" Bush say

3 yeares later:

"My bad" Bush says again.

Now, if the U.S. leaves they look like pussies for leaving and not helping people, but if the U.S. stays they get ridiculed for being where they don't belong.
That's what I call: being between a rock and a hard dick.
 

Zetona

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This-is-Hip-Hop said:
avidabey said:
This-is-Hip-Hop said:
Well, yes, it was great for Japenese Relations, and was part of Teddy Roosevelts "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick" plan, though the act of doing this, gave the United States more reason to promote racisim, hance the "White" in the "White Fleet". Though, this is not truly 100% bad thing, hence my lack of mentioning it as the worst presidental mistake. But, the past is the past, we are not as racist now. Though I have to agree with you, Grant's mistake was pretty drastic, and is the sole reason why he was the worst President ever, probably even worse then Bush.

-This-is-Hip-Hop
That's...That's wrong. So wrong...

It was given the name of Great White Fleet after it had circumnavigated the world, and it was called that because the ships were white. Not racism - the color of the ships.
Yes, it could be seen that way, and for those wishing to turn a blind eye from previous events then yes, it could be considered White paint. Though earlier, McKinley, the president before Roosevelt was responible for the aquistion of the Phillipines, and the other territores aquired from the Spanish-American War. This president was issued the "White Man's Burden" esentially meaning he had the Go-ahead to "Civilize" the "Savage" tribes of the islands, and along with that China, Japan, and the Native Americans. This ideal of "Helping our Little Brown Brother" was passed down to the Progressive Teddy Roosevelt, though he was no were near as racist as McKinley, who prayed to God, and came upon a decision to "Civilize, Capitalize, and Christanize, our little Brown Brothmindset of "help those ers".

Though Teddy Roosevelt still had the progressive less fortunate", even if those less fortunate would be better off without us.

-This-is-Hip-Hop
Roosevelt inherited a revolution in the Philippines, and being an imperialist like McKinley, he decided to quash it and give the Filipinos their independence when he felt they were ready. His White Fleet, though, was a foreign policy gesture. It created admiration and respect for America around the globe, especially in Japan, which had recently had a flap with the US over discriminatory schooling in San Francisco. (TR resolved that little quarrel with secret meetings). I don't think the White Fleet's main aim was to promote racism; it was to promote US standing and gain some influence. After all, those were imperialistic times.
 

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Hunde Des Krieg said:
Irridium said:
I would have to say the Iraq War

"They have weapons of mass destruction!" Bush say

3 yeares later:

"We can't leave yet because everything will be wonderful if we stay" Bush says again.

Now, if the U.S. leaves they look like pussies for leaving and not helping people, but if the U.S. stays they get ridiculed for being where they don't belong.
That's what I call: being between a rock and a hard dick.
Why do US screw-ups always seem to cause expensive, interminable wars?
 

Flap Jack452

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Obama as president. A very democratic talk show host (sorry his name is slipping my mind) said that "He is the biggest destroyer of wealth our nation has ever seen" and that he "wasted his vote".
 

Arsen

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Trail of Tears
Not doing anything about illegal immigration (look at present day L.A.)
Allowing the 1990's pop scene to happen
Welfare for people who can work
Racism (For and Against)
Modern American Music
Not fully supporting ourselves going overseas when we could have won if the right people fought for us in modern day Iraq. But no...we have to argue about it instead of trying to win that fight.
 

Hunde Des Krieg

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Zetona said:
Hunde Des Krieg said:
Irridium said:
I would have to say the Iraq War

"They have weapons of mass destruction!" Bush say

3 yeares later:

"We can't leave yet because everything will be wonderful if we stay" Bush says again.

Now, if the U.S. leaves they look like pussies for leaving and not helping people, but if the U.S. stays they get ridiculed for being where they don't belong.
That's what I call: being between a rock and a hard dick.
Why do US screw-ups always seem to cause expensive, interminable wars?
Your asking me? Because when you screw up internationally it leads to bad bad things.
 

ZZ-Tops89

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Gooble said:
Preaching freedom, liberty and justice on every possible occasion, yet practicing corruption, racism, sexism, torture, illegal wars, greed, a class system etc. etc. etc. right across the country.

Also being so terribly afraid of socialism, despite the fact that if it were properly put into practice it would reflect the aforementioned virtues of freedom, liberty, justice etc.
>_< shut up you socialist weasel s***mop. of course socialism would work if perfectly implemented, just like utopia would work perfectly if we just got it right. QUIT BITCHING and act. Your computer would be better used for helping some kid in Africa learn to read, so in a socialist world we would redistribute it to them, or maybe to a university where people actually use it to learn instead of just s*** crap out of their mouths.

As for the initial question, I'd have to say it was the new deal, for several reasons:
1. Created a ruse of government effectiveness when really it was demand for weapons fueled by WWII that ended the new deal and many early new deal programs helped lead to a second recession in 1936/7.
2. Vilified the private sector when early government failures that could have prevented the great depression were not enacted for arbitrary reasons (including documented antisemitism by senators and congressmen).
3. Created Social Security, the most inefficient and ineffective concept EVER.
4. Road construction (a major part of the New Deal) paved (literally) the way for our current dependence on foreign oil and a large part of global warming).
5. Keynesians all loved the New Deal, and Keynesians are worthless.
 

Jerious1154

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I'm going to say the back-room deal that led to the Hayes being made president in 1877. Pretty much, the 1876 election was disputed, and the Republicans made a deal with the Democrats that if they gave the presidency to the Republican Hayes, he would pull troops out of the south and end post Civil-War reconstruction. In effect, this led to the oppression of blacks in the south for the next 90 years.
 

Drake the Dragonheart

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Irridium said:
I would have to say the Iraq War

"They have weapons of mass destruction!" Bush say

3 yeares later:

"My bad" Bush says again.

Now, if the U.S. leaves they look like pussies for leaving and not helping people, but if the U.S. stays they get ridiculed for being where they don't belong.
stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I would have to say slavery, definitely a very shameful part of my country's history.
to Hunde Des Krieg: I don't know. Bashing the U.S. is just more entertaining I guess.