Being white I'm ok with this. If other groups can get a scholarship for their race then why shouldn't I?
This. This, this, this.lasherman said:People have no problem with black-only scholarships, asian-only scholarships, latino-only scholarships, so why not white-only? As people already said, equality works both ways.
Only in the most literal sense of the term. The implication of the article is that white males are suffering systematic discrimination for being white males, which is utter, utter bull. Demonstrably wrong - white males have the advantage in virtually every corner of society.Father Time said:Why is discrimination in quotation marks? Specifically targeting a group and saying that they need not apply is discrimination.BeanDelphiki said:I'm not reading the thread - it will only enrage me and give me a headache - but this is stupid. There are quite literally thousands of scholarships out there that do not "discriminate" against such a privileged group as white males (and yes, you are privileged even if you aren't rich!).
That's totally fucking irrelevant. There are scholarships available if you're poor. There are scholarships available for white men, period. Just because the damn scholarship isn't labeled "for white men," doesn't mean we aren't often automatically considered first unless we are specifically not included - simply because everyone's mental image of a "person" in Western society is a white man.Father Time said:And so what if they're privileged that obviously isn't enough to keep them from being poor or from needing a scholarship.
So it's perfectly fine that we have black only and Asian only and Hispanic only, but the moment and white only scholarship comes along is that considered racist? Equality doesn't work if you single out a single race from a benefit. Same reason on why whites should be allowed to use the n-word. Not letting them do that is racist in itself right?lunncal said:Of-course this is bad, and this is racist. Treating people differently depending on race is racism. True, the ones run by the government are wrong too, but it's simply pathetic to get back by doing the same thing you are supposedly trying to prevent.
It's called sociology.Father Time said:How would you even begin to demonstrate that white males have the advantage in every corner of society?BeanDelphiki said:Only in the most literal sense of the term. The implication of the article is that white males are suffering systematic discrimination for being white males, which is utter, utter bull. Demonstrably wrong - white males have the advantage in virtually every corner of society.Father Time said:Why is discrimination in quotation marks? Specifically targeting a group and saying that they need not apply is discrimination.BeanDelphiki said:I'm not reading the thread - it will only enrage me and give me a headache - but this is stupid. There are quite literally thousands of scholarships out there that do not "discriminate" against such a privileged group as white males (and yes, you are privileged even if you aren't rich!).
I thought my sarcasm was fairly obvious.Belated said:It's about damn time. Society gives the least sympathy to white male youth these days. Why? WE didn't cause slavery. WE didn't kill the Indians. That was all our ancestors' deal. If we're to ever move past the past, we need to start putting everybody under the same label: "People". I don't think scholarships based on gender, color, and sexual orientation should even exist. But those aren't going anywhere, so it's nice to see one institution trying to even the field a little bit.
Where'd you pull THAT one out of? So I suppose I just IMAGINED my current living situation due to my father's inability to work and my mother's death? My whole life has been a lie, and he's actually hiding millions of dollars in a secret underground bunker that I don't know about?LetalisK said:HOW DARE THEY! White people are rich and can always afford college. There is no such thing as a poor white college student. How can anyone be in favor of this!?
Just because most rich people are white, doesn't mean most white people are rich. There's just as many poor white people these days as there are poor blacks, latinos, gays, lesbians, Mexicans, illegal Mexicans, Asians, orphans, bakers, candlestick makers, Clingons, robots, aliens, time travelers, espers, lions and tigers and bears, oh my. You know what a "redneck" is, right? They didn't just make those up for the sake of Jeff Foxworthy specials. Rednecks are basically poor white people, and there's loads of them.
Just on side note, why do so many of you act like these race and gender based scholarships stem from ancient race problems? Have you forgotten that many civil rights movements took place in the 60s and 70s? Have you forgotten that race and gender problems still persisted until around the 90s it began to change?Belated said:It's about damn time. Society gives the least sympathy to white male youth these days. Why? WE didn't cause slavery. WE didn't kill the Indians. That was all our ancestors' deal. If we're to ever move past the past, we need to start putting everybody under the same label: "People". I don't think scholarships based on gender, color, and sexual orientation should even exist. But those aren't going anywhere, so it's nice to see one institution trying to even the field a little bit.