White males only scholarship

[Mylinkay Asdara]

I am really looking forward to the day we get past this racial differentiation in all fields - including scholarship requirements. Race is a social construct and it would be super great if we could deconstruct it, but since that day is probably beyond my lifespan - I'm not going to be indignant that one more group has decided to be picky about who they give their money to for college... we'd get a whole lot more done for people in need if all these separatist societies and associations and trusts would merge up together - the interest from their combined assets alone would probably fund several additional tuitions. Just another reason why we'd be stronger together.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

HOW DARE THEY!!! SEXIST PIGS!!! That's what the issue is here right?

But seriously though, being a black male I have to say that I can't argue this scholarship with the status quo of the world toay. You can't yell about equal right of the average white male can't get a hand too. Hell, here in Canada cops are hired to fill "ethnic quotas". That's right if we don't have enough East Indian cops and along comes today's version of John McClaine gets perfect on all of the tests, he can't get a job as a cop because they need another "Muhammad" to make them not look racist.

Political Correctness, the nice rasicm.

 

[Poofs]

lol $500

thats like 1 class, not including textbooks

 

[Mylinkay Asdara]

Oh, and also... they're $500 scholarships I read somewhere - that's not a drop in the bucket for college funds. For example, I spent more than that on books alone this past year and I am absolutely without a doubt certain that everyone else on my campus is in about the same range - and that holds true for the community college I attended previous to the four year university I'm in now.

 

[Baneat]

Oh, and also... they're $500 scholarships I read somewhere - that's not a drop in the bucket for college funds. For example, I spent more than that on books alone this past year and I am absolutely without a doubt certain that everyone else on my campus is in about the same range - and that holds true for the community college I attended previous to the four year university I'm in now.

I think it's more to do with making a point and taking a stand than financial gain

 

[Xenetethrae]

That would be great, if the "merit based" scholarships actually DID that. There's a trend towards neutralizing the race and gender bias from "merit based" scholarships, but until they do, it is currently a fact that more white males receive these scholarships than their representation in the general public. Basically, if (as someone claimed above) 42% of the population is a white male, then assuming all things being equal, 42% of scholarship winners should be white males, give or take within a margin of error.

"Assuming all things being equal" Yes they should. But things are never equal, so this argument is moot. Sorry, but in an inequal society, just because 42% of a population is a certain race does not mean 42% of merit scholarships should be of that same race. If merit scholarships worked like that, then they would be based on race which is what we are trying to avoid.

This isn't the case however, and whether it is because of discrimination within the selection, or systemic discrimination that isn't the fault of the selectors, white males are, simply by being white males, more likely to get free money than other people.

Wrong and irrelevant. White males are only more likely to recieve merit scholarships because of differences in culture or income (they are more likely to be of higher income which, in turn, may allow for them to recieve a better education or have more time to devote to learning etc...). And culture based scholarships? Really?

This is offset by NEED-BASED scholarships which help those with the greatest monetary need. White males usually recieve fewer need-based scholarships in proportion to their population than people of other racial backgrounds. Both merit and needs-based scholarship ignore race entirely, which means they are not racist. Maybe not equal, but they are fair.

So this idea that there's some social justice inherent in a scholorship just for white males is being completely ignorant to the fact that many scholarships already do that, but simply don't state it.

See above, the disproportionately large amount of white males that can claim merit scholarships is offset by the disproportionately small amount of scholaships they can claim based on need. Saying a merit scholarship is racist because a greater percentage of a certain race earned the scholarship then is present in the population is ridiculous! (The scholarship related to the OP, however is undeniably racist)

Seriously tho, if you're a white male complaining about being 'disadvantaged'... go to hell. You're an self-entitled idiot who doesn't actually know how to leverage his own inherent advantage that society STILL gives you over everyone else in numerous subtle ways.

Calm down man, seriously, that's a rather big Soapbox you got there. I've said as much before: If any scholarships even look at race percentages as a factor then they are racially biased (aka racist). I DISAGREE with white male only scholarships. I also disagree with any "one-race-only" scholarships as they are always racist.

Personal Note: I am a white male who applied for sevral merit scholarships and got none. I did not apply for any need based scholarships because I don't qualify. Several of my white friends do though and some of them recieved needs based scholarships. My girlfriend (who is white and not male in case you were wondering) recieved buckets of scholarships. My black friend (cause every white guy has one black friend. Funny joke haha) recieved more scholarships than me and my girlfriend combined. Why? My gf and I had way higher gpas than him and I might have more money than him but my gf sure doesn't. The sheer number of "one-race-only" scholarships is staggering in some places. Especially when, to me, it seems like they award those with the only requisite being "not white". Ergo, I, along with many others, am frustrated with this system.

 

[BrownGaijin]

I've got no beef with it.

Snip.

To put perspective on it, Obama would more than qualify for the scholarship. It's not exactly a strict requirement.

Hmm... I didn't think about that. Good point.

 

[soultrain117]

Really this is all bullshit we shouldn't have scholarships based on race at all they should be based on need and actually deserving them. As far as this goes anyone who is pissed also needs to be pissed at all the other race based scholarships. It is extremely hypocritical to say that this is racist and scholarships that single out other races are fine.

 

[Requx]

Thats awesome I love it.

 

['Stache]

I considered pretending to be gay while applying to college, because it have given me something to set me apart. The thing that bugs me about affirmative action isn't that it gives others a leg up, but that it makes being pink (or male, or straight) a liability.

 

[TheRealCJ]

Ignore me!

Will do Cap'n!

 

[Lilani]

If this ends up getting tagged as racist and is taken down, then they have to take down the black-oriented scholarships, too. Enough of this "it's only racist if you're white" crap. Time for them to put their equality where their mouth is.

 

[Canid117]

*Looks at the story*

*Looks at the comments*

*Decides that this is a non issue*

*Walks away*

 

[theultimateend]

People have no problem with black-only scholarships, asian-only scholarships, latino-only scholarships, so why not white-only? As people already said, equality works both ways.

Similarly saying "Asian Pride" is fine, but "White pride" is racist.

Fascinating Stuff .

I'm 30K in debt, my family was so poor we lived in a run down mobile and we ate fairly bad. I had better than average grades in school. I got to college and watch my roommate get full scholarship, he spent much of it just smoking weed.

It was upsetting, he was a nice guy but I highly doubt he got his full scholarship because of that :/.

when I signed up for Fafsa they sent me a letter saying "Congratulations! You qualify for Private Loans!"

Yea...who doesn't?

Edit: Figured I should clarify. If you went solely off of GPA I qualified for hundreds of scholarships in my area. I just wasn't the right gender, race, or religion.

Not looking for sympathy either, just figured I'd mention it. It sucked hard (and will for another 7-10 years).

 

[GamerFromJump]

I always said that if I won the lottery, I'd do just this, creating the "United Caucasian College Fund". When the usual suspects showed up to complain, I'd inform them that it was a sociological experiment and that they've provided excellent data in support of my hypothesis (GLaDOS quotes optional).

Oh, the kids that applied would still get their money. I'm making a point, not being a jerk to aspiring students.

The sheer joy of getting to tell the world that I spent a million bucks (tax-written-off) just to piss the raceturbators off and show them for what they are would be worth the money, because you can't buy the sheer joy of watching Al Sharpton's head explode. Well, you can, but it's illegal.

 

[Brian Hendershot]

I am really looking forward to the day we get past this racial differentiation in all fields - including scholarship requirements. Race is a social construct and it would be super great if we could deconstruct it, but since that day is probably beyond my lifespan - I'm not going to be indignant that one more group has decided to be picky about who they give their money to for college... we'd get a whole lot more done for people in need if all these separatist societies and associations and trusts would merge up together - the interest from their combined assets alone would probably fund several additional tuitions. Just another reason why we'd be stronger together.

Thank God for the voice of reason. I was about to think I wouldn't find it in this god forsaken thread.

Hehe, on a side-note, when it comes to college, sometimes I love being Asian, legally independent, and from a low middle class family. The system loves me.

EDIT: I managed to get a full ride to my college of choice, without any minority based scholarships. I got a lot of them but turned them down out of principle. Unless you count the 5000 that Pell Grant gives me.

 

[Belated]

It's about damn time. Society gives the least sympathy to white male youth these days. Why? WE didn't cause slavery. WE didn't kill the Indians. That was all our ancestors' deal. If we're to ever move past the past, we need to start putting everybody under the same label: "People". I don't think scholarships based on gender, color, and sexual orientation should even exist. But those aren't going anywhere, so it's nice to see one institution trying to even the field a little bit.

HOW DARE THEY! White people are rich and can always afford college. There is no such thing as a poor white college student. How can anyone be in favor of this!?

Where'd you pull THAT one out of? So I suppose I just IMAGINED my current living situation due to my father's inability to work and my mother's death? My whole life has been a lie, and he's actually hiding millions of dollars in a secret underground bunker that I don't know about?

Just because most rich people are white, doesn't mean most white people are rich. There's just as many poor white people these days as there are poor blacks, latinos, gays, lesbians, Mexicans, illegal Mexicans, Asians, orphans, bakers, candlestick makers, Clingons, robots, aliens, time travelers, espers, lions and tigers and bears, oh my. You know what a "redneck" is, right? They didn't just make those up for the sake of Jeff Foxworthy specials. Rednecks are basically poor white people, and there's loads of them.

I thought my sarcasm was fairly obvious.

I guess not obvious to me. Well, this is embarrassing.

 

[Ridley the Violator]

Excellent! A scholarship that caters exactly to me!

Oh wait it's from Texas? fuck this

 

[Suijen]

It's not politically correct, but considering that we do have scholarships targetted at ethnic groups already, I say, why not?