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GodofCider

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Forktongue said:
This reminds me of a grant I applied for years ago. I can't recall it's exact name, but it was something like the "Nothing Special Grant" and it was put together by someone who had recently finished obtaining a master's degree. They said that the most difficult thing about acquiring financial aid was that you had to be special in some way.

The requirements were to write a one-page essay explaining how there was nothing particularly special about you, that you didn't have to overcome any hardships (be it economic, physical or social) and that you were not receiving any scholarships/grants for excelling in anything. If selected, you would get a once time payment of $200.
Hehe, that's cool. ^_^
 

blindthrall

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I see nothing wrong with this. When I took my SATs, I said I was Hispanic and wanted to enter the priesthood, just to see if it affected the amount of scholarships offered. It was pretty ridiculous, but nothing compared to my buddy, who said he was an Inuit.
 

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I really have no problem with this, if white males are now no longer the majority then it's fitting. Also men are becoming underrepresented at many colleges compared to women. And it's not like this scholarship takes away from the many scholarships available to other groups. I'm not really for it, but I don't really care either.
 

Korolev

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It's not a government scholarship, so there's no real legal issue here, or at least, not one I'm aware of. While I'm pretty damn certain that this group does have racist motivations and beliefs, it's not my job to stop them. As long as they don't hurt or try to hurt non-white people, leave them alone. They can be racist all they want, that's their right. In the end, they hurt only themselves. Racism is a toxic belief system that is based on hatred, exclusivity and blind pride-for-no-reason (just because a lot of white people have done great stuff doesn't give white people the permission to be proud of themselves - the accomplishments of Newton, Clarke, Crick and Fermat are the accomplishments of Newton, Clarke, Crick and Fermat, not yours - you've got no right to be proud of what OTHERS did, even if you belong to the same ethnic group. Same thing applies to all other ethnic groups - just because your ancestors did well doesn't mean you're anything special. Taking pride in the accomplishments of others and then using their achievements (which you had nothing to do with) to bolster your own sense of pride is pathetic. It's also really easy to do).

So there's nothing that should be done to stop this scholarship. If they want to give money to white students, and if they're not from the government, hell, let them. And it's only 500 dollars anyway - that kind of money is peanut money.

So yeah - if they want to be racist, let em, so long as it doesn't result in any harm to other groups. If they want to give some white students a couple of hundred bucks, sure, why not. It's not like it can hurt anyone.
 

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I think it's a dumb idea overall (but it's private funding, so I'm not overly bothered by the scholarship itself), but using the "no longer a majority" argument is what makes it vaguely offensive.

Ah yes, white males are no longer a majority in Texas, just an overwhelming plurality. And are we really so petty that we're using the fact that white males no longer dominate the population to such a degree that we should give more money to them so they can continue to dominate it socially? Would it truly be so terrible if we lost our incredible privelege and some other group were on top or, god forbid, roughly equal to us?

Also, stupid idea is stupid. Yes, there are very few scholarships aimed specifically at white males. On the other hand, white males are statistically more likely to get almost every open scholarship they can apply to than any other group. Perhaps more importantly, it's not like there's some crisis whereby our colleges don't have enough white males.
 

Korolev

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And about the whole "pride" issue - racist folks like to use the accomplishments of other white people in the past to feel good about themselves. How pathetic is that? THEY (the racists) didn't make those discoveries - what right to they have to be proud of those discoveries? They can be respectful to the people who made them, but to actively take pride in something they didn't do is silly.

The same goes for every other nation out there - and it makes no sense! Just because your country won a gold medal, what does that prove? That the athlete who won that medal was good - that's all it proves. Just because you were born/live in the same geographical location doesn't mean jack-all. Their accomplishments ARE NOT YOUR accomplishments.

You only have the right to feel proud of stuff YOU DID. You can respect those who have achieved success, but it's down right wrong to use their accomplishments to feel good about yourself. Every ethnic group does this - they take pride in what their ancestors, friends, forebears and children have done. That's crap. The one who accomplishes the task has the right to feel pride in accomplishing the task. No one else does.

I extend this to my own country - Australia (used to be) fairly good at Cricket. The Australian team was strong. Why should I feel pride because they won a match? They should feel pride that they won a match, but why should anyone else? How did I contribute? How is their victory my victory? The answer is: it isn't.

We need to see individuals as individuals - athletes, scientists, artists - they are all individuals, and their achievements belong to them and their close colleagues. Not us. Especially if we were born well after their achievements. I have an English/Chinese ethnic background - and there have been numerous achievements on both sides of my "ethnicity" and my nationality. But those achievements weren't my own. I feel a great reverence to Charles Darwin, but I am not Charles Darwin - I didn't posit the theory of evolution. I feel great respect for those who build the Forbidden Palace - but I didn't build the forbidden palace. Neither did you. In fact, NO ONE alive today had ANYTHING TO DO with those achievements. Why feel pride IN SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T DO?!

Because it's EASY. It's a quick way to bolster your pride. Racists love this - the vast majority of modern day racists (everywhere, not just in America) are uneducated simpletons. You go look at the skin-heads or the KKK or the Mongolian Nazi groups (they do exist and they attack Chinese people who they feel are invading Mongolia) - invariably they are made up of the worst of the worst. Most of them are uneducated criminals who have achieved nothing of note, but they latch on to the accomplishments of those who came before. It's stupid, and it's easy. It's a way to feel pride without having to lift a finger. It's just lazy as well.

Feel pride in what YOU have done, not what others have. To do otherwise is pathetic. Feel respect for your ancestors, for those who came before, recognize their achievements and congratulate them (if they are alive) on their achievements, but their achievements belong to them and no one, NO ONE else.
 

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I think it's a good idea. Of course, it'll be unfairly called racist by people of other races and genders. You know, all the groups of people who already have a scholarship program or two dedicated to them that doesn't let any other group of people in. I mean, come on. There are poor white males too, and there's no reason why they shouldn't get help with paying for college too if needed.

It'd only be racist if their slogan was "WHITE MALE SCHOLARSHIP: FUCK ALL THOSE [insert derogatory terms for other races and genders here]". Otherwise, I don't see why it's any different from any other scholarship. I mean yeah, if you're black, hispanic, and/or a woman, they won't give you any money. But there are plenty of other scholarship programs out there that will while turning away white males. So go apply for one of those instead of going pointing and shouting "RACIST!" at this one program.
 

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I have a 3.8 GPA (with over 100 college credit hours) and I can't get most of the scholarships because I'm not a minority. Doesn't my worth as a student enter into this at all? I mean, if our family wasn't poor and my mom and dad hadn't missed college, I would have gotten jack by way of scholarships.

Not that people OWE me an education, but they'll give away all kinds of money to my cousins (half-black). If you're white and middle class, but not QUITE low-income enough to qualify for stuff or rich enough to actually pay for college, you're working for your college regardless of grades.

I had a college fund, but anything related to the stock market at all crashed when everything else did.
 

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Brian Hendershot said:
Katherine Ciesla said:
I am really looking forward to the day we get past this racial differentiation in all fields - including scholarship requirements. Race is a social construct and it would be super great if we could deconstruct it, but since that day is probably beyond my lifespan - I'm not going to be indignant that one more group has decided to be picky about who they give their money to for college... we'd get a whole lot more done for people in need if all these separatist societies and associations and trusts would merge up together - the interest from their combined assets alone would probably fund several additional tuitions. Just another reason why we'd be stronger together.

Thank God for the voice of reason. I was about to think I wouldn't find it in this god forsaken thread.

Hehe, on a side-note, when it comes to college, sometimes I love being Asian, legally independent, and from a low middle class family. The system loves me.

EDIT: I managed to get a full ride to my college of choice, without any minority based scholarships. I got a lot of them but turned them down out of principle. Unless you count the 5000 that Pell Grant gives me.
I don't think that one has anything to do with race, 'cause it was the only one I got. Sigh. Well, it all helps.
 

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NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People): fights for the rights and equality of minorities.

NAAWP (National Association for the Advancement of White People): doesn't exist because it would be "racist".

BET (Black Entertainment Television): TV station with programing preferred more by Black viewers

WET (White Entertainment Television): Doesn't exist because it would be considered "racist"

Black,Asian,Women's etc History Month: Great to celebrate different histories.

White History Month: Doesn't exist because it would be considered "racist". Or you can go with the excuse I love to hear. "Every month is white history month!" that is just as racist and side steps the issue.

There is a lot of reverse racism so I am glad to hear there is at least some program out there that works against it.
 

Haydyn

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Why do we even have nationality specific scholarships anyways? I'm a Caucasian, Protestant Christian, blue eyed, blonde hair, middle class, 6 foot 1, four limbed, male. You better believe nobody is going to go out of their way for me.

If there was justice, scholarships would go to people who do not fit in well, or have social anxiety issues.
 

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Dense_Electric said:
I don't agree with this any more than I agree with scholarships awarded to only blacks or only women (or whatever), but if those things can exist then so can this. At the very least maybe it will draw some attention to the hypocrisy that goes largely unnoticed, then (God willing) we can all grow the hell up and stop putting so much damn emphasis on race and sex.
You sir.... have just won the game. :?o

Anyone notice when Obama was running for office that if you didn't agree with him you were racist? A blanket statement I know, but I was called a racist 14 times when I said I was worrid about not hearing a plan of action from him only hope and change. I think people like to throw the word racist around to try to scare people into submission.

America, I am dissapoint....
 

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Now thats what i like to see, someone standing up to the stupid racism, discrimination and political correctness stuff thats floating around everyones heads.

Damn right that everyone should get benefits like this, im tired of companies and organisations such as the police being asked to have a 50/50 split between men/women and black/white. They may think they are creating equality but by seperating different genders and races into categories like this, they are actually creating it!!!!
 

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lunncal said:
Of-course this is bad, and this is racist. Treating people differently depending on race is racism. True, the ones run by the government are wrong too, but it's simply pathetic to get back by doing the same thing you are supposedly trying to prevent.
There are plenty of private scholarships for certain elasticities, and genders. It's all over the place.

As a white male, I didn't get a bad scholarship because I worked my ass off to get it. Fact is that there are a lot of white males, so the scholarships aren't exactly pouring in for us. I figured out that, with the exact same grades and school records I had, being in any different category, either female or of a different race, I would have been eligible for thousands more in scholarships.

All in all, I still didn't do badly for myself, and I'm proud of that, but it's annoying that just because someone happens to have a different skin color or a different chromosome that they get scholarships thrown at them left and right.
 

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godfist88 said:
it not equality unless everyone gets equal treatment.
which will only happen when everyone is dead unfortunately. Observation breeds bias. The only way to create equality is for nobody to be there to observe ANYTHING. So yeah. it seems like destruction of all living things is the answer T_T
 

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blindthrall said:
I see nothing wrong with this. When I took my SATs, I said I was Hispanic and wanted to enter the priesthood, just to see if it affected the amount of scholarships offered. It was pretty ridiculous, but nothing compared to my buddy, who said he was an Inuit.
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godfist88

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Direwolf750 said:
godfist88 said:
it not equality unless everyone gets equal treatment.
which will only happen when everyone is dead unfortunately. Observation breeds bias. The only way to create equality is for nobody to be there to observe ANYTHING. So yeah. it seems like destruction of all living things is the answer T_T
hmm... that kinda sounds like that crazy hippy from Dead Rising 2, the one that wanted "equalize" everyone by turning them into zombies.