Why all the hate for TOR?
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You seem to think that there was anything left to do with that little segment of history? KotOR is done, dude, get over it. Revan's story was given resolution, and KotOR II didn't happen, so you might as well skip forward to see how your actions in the first game might influence the galaxy in the long term.Random Argument Man said:
A lot of people are just skeptical. Some are just jaded and miffed from past bitter experiences with MMOs. Some of us have been around for a while, and we keep an "eagle's eye" on the goings ons of the MMO world.
That being said, I'm personally looking forward to the Old Republic. It's definitely not very unique however, and I recognize this. It's not going for a "target audience", it's trying to hit everyone. So it might turn out to be a rather 'simple' experience.
I'm also not a fan of the, 'you will play as a hero of the universe' crap, because it goes against all the reasons why I want to play a MMO. I want to play in an online world, and be a part of it. Journeying to common goals with others, and only being able to conquer great things with the aid of a trusty band of adventurers. As a community. "Everyone is a big hero" is going the way of Age of Conan, which was just sad. There is literally only one story that everyone follows in AoC, and the story is literally: "You are the lone hero/savior" story. Pathetic and it rips you away from the immersion of the world.
However, TOR's "story" is going to be very dynamic, and will vary greatly based on your choice of class and faction. It also changes based on your decisions and your companions, similar to past Bioware games. So I'll be able to live with it, and hopefully feel immersed in a world with others all the same.
That being said, I'm personally looking forward to the Old Republic. It's definitely not very unique however, and I recognize this. It's not going for a "target audience", it's trying to hit everyone. So it might turn out to be a rather 'simple' experience.
I'm also not a fan of the, 'you will play as a hero of the universe' crap, because it goes against all the reasons why I want to play a MMO. I want to play in an online world, and be a part of it. Journeying to common goals with others, and only being able to conquer great things with the aid of a trusty band of adventurers. As a community. "Everyone is a big hero" is going the way of Age of Conan, which was just sad. There is literally only one story that everyone follows in AoC, and the story is literally: "You are the lone hero/savior" story. Pathetic and it rips you away from the immersion of the world.
However, TOR's "story" is going to be very dynamic, and will vary greatly based on your choice of class and faction. It also changes based on your decisions and your companions, similar to past Bioware games. So I'll be able to live with it, and hopefully feel immersed in a world with others all the same.
Bioware's record gives it a 10, added crappy mmorpg elements diminishes that. You can't just say a dev house that has made outstanding singleplayer RPG games will make a MMORPG game that will be of the same quality.joebear15 said:
That is like saying just because someone is good at making novels, they could automatically direct movies just as well. Sure both jobs are telling a story, but talent doesn't transfer that way.
I don't hate MMORPGs either, but there are ways to make them and there are ways not too. In my head a MMORPG should be like a table-top RPG, a conduit to play out an adventure with friends in a vast world. 90% of MMORPGs out there have one point, and that is to grind away levels to be the best of the best, then..... profit?BakaSmurf said:
Make an MMO that gives me the freedom to really RPG, than we'll talk.
I'd say its more like a car company branching out to make trains. (One transports one or two people, the other is mass transit, get it?)joebear15 said:
Sure, they might not be crap, but most assuredly they aren't going to be the next masterpiece. If this was their second go at an MMORPG I wouldn't be so hostile. The fact that they are taking a very good universe that already has been taking a huge blow to its credibility and image (See, Star wars the force unleashed 2) for the last couple of years.
Sony already tried and ruined Starwars Galaxies, and they had a history in MMORPGs, whos to say this new player in the market can do any better?
...You serious?Nimcha said:
They've been saying Q1 of 2011 for almost a year now. At the very latest, they've said, it'll be out September 2011.
Best be checkin' your facts. <.<
As far as I care for the actual topic at hand, I haven't seen much hate. Perhaps a few people being too overly judgmental because they have not done the thorough research, or biased people who hate MMO's.
And I say fuck em. I have never taken off time from anything to play a game, but I WILL be taking a week off, no matter what, when TOR is released. I can't be taken seriously as Big Boss if I'm level 1, now can I? ;]
