I think they mean by the uproar when they didn't get dedicated servers and blizzard not using LAN(i think it was LAN) for Starcraft 2.mounky said:What are these "ways" that we are stuck in?
I think they mean by the uproar when they didn't get dedicated servers and blizzard not using LAN(i think it was LAN) for Starcraft 2.mounky said:What are these "ways" that we are stuck in?
I just think that most people on console don't mind the way the servers were done on MW2, and I myself don't mind either, sure dedicated servers may be good but the way i've seen my friend act with his servers i'm not to keen on them.bagodix said:Those are good, sensible features that have been around for so long because they work and because people like them. Activision just doesn't give a shit about its customers and will do anything to squeeze more profit out of them. But once again this is something that consoletards will just gladly accept, because they think corporations are their best friends and because a subservient sheep mentality is all they are capable of.poncho14 said:I think they mean by the uproar when they didn't get dedicated servers and blizzard not using LAN(i think it was LAN) for Starcraft 2.mounky said:What are these "ways" that we are stuck in?
That was my point, you were making a generalised statement which I hear quite a lot from PC gamers, I just thought I might stoke the fire a little by giving the general feeling that people have, you can treat me like a 5 year old if it makes you happy, I'm not really that bothered seeing as I'm not one and the fact I would have to agree with you that there are a stupid amount of squeaky high pitched voice children around at the moment, mainly MW2.Ultratwinkie said:way to make sweeping generalizations. should i treat you like a 5 year old child since you play a console? no? then stop generalizing. Plus, that's the trick. am i telling the truth or am i joking? the world may never know... 0.0happysock said:Ultratwinkie said:because of console fanboyism. they attack the PC because they either
A. envy the PC. (modding, etc)
B. think their way is the best way. ( IE good old tribal hostility to other tribes who dont think like them.)
C.trolls (they anger ppl for fun)
D. misinformed about the PC gamers and believe what those idiots at x-play/etc tell them to believe.
E. mistake the PC for a console with shiny bells and whistles. (its NOT a console, its a computer. PCs and consoles are not the same. they CANNOT RUN ON THE SAME SYSTEM of multiplayer, control, etc. stop expecting the PC to conform to your ways thinking it will be a good transition because it wont and it will end badly.)
I have no idea if your joking or not, but this is the reason people hate on the PC people, they are arrogant and think they are a god send.
I don't understand why all the hate is about, a gaming console is a gaming console, it's all about what people can afford, what they prefer and what is easy for them which is where the general stereotypes come from.
That's not so much 'being stuck in our ways' as it is refusing to have a superior system kicked out and a new crappy one implemented.poncho14 said:I think they mean by the uproar when they didn't get dedicated servers and blizzard not using LAN(i think it was LAN) for Starcraft 2.mounky said:What are these "ways" that we are stuck in?
QFTdududf said:Console fanboys/somethings get a hard on when they see PC gamers, due to our unique sexiness but they try to hide it by hating us.
Yup yup.
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In all seriousness, they don't like us because we feel entittled to things they don't have. That and we look down on them from which is perceived as "Elitism".
Not my fault Ihatedislike all of you whiney Live people XD
You're personal definition of a word is not the definition for everyone. As I showed in the previous post, some people believe that all console gamers are console-tards and as a console owner that would include yourself. I was trying to say that as the term is used to describe all console players you can't justify it as a description of certain individuals. You're personal use of the term doesn't change shit, to be honest. Actually, I'm reminded of a recent South park episodes in which Fag is changed to mean someone that drives a Harley. Anyway, as long as it appears that someone is going to call all consoles gamers retards it stands to reason that they are considered elitist.bagodix said:And why would I insult myself? I have two consoles, one of which is setting right next to my PC. As I explained (in the same post), merely owning a console does not make anyone a consoletard.
What do those "some" people have to do with me? I am not responsible for what they say, and what they say has nothing to do with my views.
Rainbow Six Vegas and it's sequel actually does have dedicated servers but that isn't important. In fact, you're actually proving my argument a little bit. IW offers a sub-par console port experience and PC gamers get justifiably insulted. An community who believes that they deserve something better than what a lot of other people get are quite elitist in my opinion.Dedicated servers are rare on consoles, if they exist at all. They're certainly not a standard feature that console gamers have come to expect. A command console doesn't exist in any console game to my knowledge, and console games also aren't exactly famous for their modding capabilities.
For the millionth, billionth fucking time (why does this have to be repeated ad infinitum?): the features IW went out of its way to remove are standard on the PC and existed in the previous game, and there is no reason whatsoever why the PC version should be gimped just because the console versions don't have and can't have certain features. Iw removed those features so they can extract money from the PC players by locking down custom content and taking full control over the multiplayer. That may be the console way, but it's not the PC way. PC gamers do not want their games lowered down to console standards.
I didn't say it was.And why is it a positive thing that console gamers accept anything the industry does without complaint? Being an obedient consumer whore is not a sign of intelligence.
So, you're saying that they feel like they are entitled to a better experience. So, they're elitist than? My argument right there, thanks for agreeing with me.Again, Valve's fanbase consists mostly of PC gamers, and PC gamers are more willing to make noise if they don't like something.
What ports?
PC gamers often get rightfully angry about poor or late PC ports, in particular GTA IV and Saints Row 2 in recent memory. The lack of a port also gets mention, Gears of War II got a little bit of this. Anyway; the anger that many PC gamers have over these ports is further evidence of elitism in the community. I would have thought that you would try to argue against this. I have no problem of individually selecting each argument but leaving some of my arguments out is poor form.Fire Daemon said:Bad ports often take up a lot of this
QFT I love this guy.teh_gunslinger said:That's not so much 'being stuck in our ways' as it is refusing to have a superior system kicked out and a new crappy one implemented.poncho14 said:I think they mean by the uproar when they didn't get dedicated servers and blizzard not using LAN(i think it was LAN) for Starcraft 2.mounky said:What are these "ways" that we are stuck in?
I'll never understand why console gamers just accept P2P match making and all the other crap. From my point of view they should be trying to get their end of things improved instead of just feeeling smug when the PC gaming gets dragged down. I would have supported improving consoles but after the reaction of the colsole people with MW2 I'm kinda in favour of leaving them with their gimped systems. Meanwhile I'll just be over here playing Shattered Horizon.
The biggest different in my mind between pc and console gamers are the pc gamers general refusal to settle for a worse solution if something genuinely better is around. In fact if someone could tell me why console gamers do that I would be happy?
As it stands console games are dragging the pc down to a lowest common denominator. Oh, and yes, I guess I'm an elitist. I don't play very much on my PS3 as I find it annoying and severely limited in use. There is not even a file browser...
Very nice setup, however there's a certain level of irony in the posting of this picture. See if you can spot why.happysock said:jamesworkshop said:![]()
Jelousy that is all
Wow that is pretty sweet
LAN: Local Area Networkponcho14 said:I think they mean by the uproar when they didn't get dedicated servers and blizzard not using LAN(i think it was LAN) for Starcraft 2.mounky said:What are these "ways" that we are stuck in?
Quiet in a cornerhubertw47 said:Same, where do we stand?Jekken6 said:I'm a PC and console gamer.