Why do PC gamers get so much hate

[Ph33nix]

because we have an air of being better than console gamers and get pissed when we are treated like them. Console gamers hate our air of superiority because it really is unfounded especially considering that their are only two types of exclusives we get, RTS' and supper high setting beautiful games.

This ladies and gentle is one of those "Twats" I described.
By the way, I really really hate you.

I never said I I said WE because PC gamers in general are like that. I am a pc gamer and a 360 gamer and I have no Illusions that the PC is far superior the PC barely gets any games now because most people find it too expensive to own a high end gaming machine as opposed to a 360 or a ps3

I see...I apologise. Being in a shitty mood and reading about PC elitism really isnt a good combo...I'm going to edit my posts now.

its ok

 

[Madnesscombatguy]

I usually only ever see PC users giving abuse about games and gamers that are on consoles. I guess thats why perhaps?

 

[oppp7]

Because everyone envies how smart and awesome we are.
OT: I have no idea. It's the same reason that people are console fanboys I guess.
Also, I boycotted MW2 because they charged extra for the European version.

 

[xDarc]

I am elitist. Say whatever you want but the 360 is a 4.5 year old piece of shit you buy at any toy store.

For the first time since I can ever remember we have a vast majority of software that is struggling to fully utilize the best hardware out there. This is because of the rise in console market share and it's holding back progress.

Why is MW2 optimally designed for 18 person multiplayer when we had that feature on pc over a decade ago?

 

[Melon Hunter]

Well if you keep reading threads on the site every day you should see. Every day I read posts by asshole PC gamers that refer to console players as 'consoletards' and saying that every multiplatform game is better on PC and that PC controls are always the best and that PC has always been the superior machine and consoles have been a joke in comparison and more and more bullshit that absolutely infuriates me. Not to mention that PC games don't really seem to have some sort of fanboy stereotype. For example a ton of PC gamers always flame many 360 users because of Halo 3 and call them fanboys and say that all 360 gamers are Halo fanboys and yadayadayada.

If you were primarily or exclusively a console gamer reading these forums you would understand because it depends on point of view.

As of now, most of the above people who posted give that sort of vibe.

Can I call it? - ok I will...

The above quote is the steroyptical anti-PC gamer console-kiddie.

I'm not trying to insult you good sir, I'm merely trying to point out the irony.

Also - PC controls are better for everything. why? because if you're playing street fighter (which is next to impossible on a keyboard) you simply plug in a controller...

And this is a stereotypical anti-console PC user retaliation...repeat back-and-forthing ad infinitum.

I think a major problem is the simple bias of people who have invested a lot of time, money and effort into their chosen way of gaming. Are they going to let their side be talked down by someone on the other side who clearly knows nothing about their own beloved games platform? Of course not.

Therefore, from a bystander's point of view, you both have equally valid points against each other, but in most people's minds, they will diminish the weight their opponent's opinion carries through their own perception.

I doubt PC and console gamers are ever going to see eye-to-eye, but closing ranks and engaging in ad hominum arguements is doing nothing to stop the tribalism this is causing.

 

[RoseBridge]

because of console fanboyism. they attack the PC because they either

A. envy the PC. (modding, etc)
B. think their way is the best way. ( IE good old tribal hostility to other tribes who dont think like them.)
C.trolls (they anger ppl for fun)
D. misinformed about the PC gamers and believe what those idiots at x-play/etc tell them to believe.
E. mistake the PC for a console with shiny bells and whistles. (its NOT a console, its a computer. PCs and consoles are not the same. they CANNOT RUN ON THE SAME SYSTEM of multiplayer, control, etc. stop expecting the PC to conform to your ways thinking it will be a good transition because it wont and it will end badly.)

Yup that about right, though it goes both ways, and in my experience its the PC gamer that brings the hate not the other way around(again in my experience).
Also can people really use the "someone was mean to me on XBL" excuse, is that fair? I've seen jerks on PC,XBL,PSN, and I some time feel hostility on WIFI DS.
I've also met great friends over XBL, just got to be a little social.

 

[Snowalker]

Because, generally speaking, they put off a lot of hate towards other gamers.

 

[jamesworkshop]

superior firepower

 

[Kstreitenfeld]

I am elitist. Say whatever you want but the 360 is a 4.5 year old piece of shit you buy at any toy store.

For the first time since I can ever remember we have a vast majority of software that is struggling to fully utilize the best hardware out there. This is because of the rise in console market share and it's holding back progress.

Why is MW2 optimally designed for 18 person multiplayer when we had that feature on pc over a decade ago?

Ok, now THIS is one of those Twats I described.

Despite being overly rude about it, he brings up a very good point.

Hardware should not be outpacing Software by such a huge margin.

 

[Fire Daemon]

I had no idea consoletard is now officially defined somewhere. Both 'consoletard and 'console tard' return less than 10K hits on Google, and there doesn't appear to be any definition anywhere. Urban Dictionary is not familiar with either term. Even if some guy somewhere had his own definition for it, it wouldn't make it official.

So why the fuck are you trying to impose somebody else's definition of a word on me, or acting like his usage of the word has anything to do with my usage of the word? Don't come crying to me because someone else said something you didn't like.

Every time it seems to be used it seems to be directed at all console gamers. I'm not coming and crying to you, though. If you don't remember, you started coming to me about how you believe the term is justified for individuals, I replied that it is used to describe every console gamer gamer. That's the definition that seems to be most commonly used and so when you say something such 'stupid console-tards' it comes across as referring to all console gamers rather than just a select few.

You're the one who started whining about the definition, and then you started acting like I had called all console gamers consoletards just because someone else had, as if I was somehow responsible for what he had said.

Are you sure? I made the first post in this argument, you responded. I didn't say that you called all console gamers console-tards, just that the use of the term can be and often is used to describe all console gamers. That seems to be the general definition that I've been picked up, but it's not than hey I don't really care.

And you are wrong because your arguments are invalid.

What, why?

This definition does not apply to us.

Uhm, why the fuck not?

PC gamers expect these things because they're not only near-standard features for the platform, but because they existed in the previous game and IW went out of their way to remove them for the sake of more profit. If console gamers had to start fiddling with drivers and config files, they would be pissed because they expect that they can just insert a disc and then play the game, as is standard practise on consoles.

The argument that PC gamers are expecting special treatment is invalid.

Ah but expecting what is standard is still elitism and goes back to the definition (which doesn't count for some reason...). Expecting a certain thing, anything, because the game is on the PC is elitism. So when you say PC gamers demand console commands and dedicated servers because that is standard practice you are being a bit of an elitist. However one flaw in my argument (whats this, pointing out my flaws, by gosh) is that there may not be superiority involved. I'm not exactly sure.

The PC is a PC, as in a Personal Computer. It's not a console.

Ah, I apologize. My intent was to write platform. Surely though, the point remains. Can you surely not argue against it instead of just pointing out word misplacement's?

Your argument is a straw man. MW2 didn't piss off PC gamers because the PC is a superior platform and PC gamers want special treatment. This has been explained a million times in a million threads.

No it isn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man. A straw man is about directing the argument away from the topic with the hopes of winning and I am disappointed that you will sink so low to use that. I am not trying to 'win' here, just express my feelings on the matter and I see no reason why you feel the need to sink to such lows.

I've been keeping the argument about elitism with MW2 as an example with the term console-tard and the nature of change on the consoles as a side. This isn't about MW2, this is about PC elitism. Honestly man, it sounds like you're itching for a fight concerning this game and I am afraid that I wont meet you on that front as it is something I do not care very much about and have no reason arguing over.

So even if something is changed for the worse, console gamers don't complain. Which means they just go along to get along, instead of saying "hey, this is bullshit."

A lack of complaining doesn't mean that if failed. Gears of War 2 is barely played because of a terrible matchmaking system and as a result failed miserably compared to the first one.

The PC is inherently superior to consoles (except in a few ways), so therefore PC gamers will automatically get a better experience than console gamers (except in a few ways). That's just the way it is. It has nothing to do with deserving things.

Yes, that's the way it is. You think that the PC is superior so you expect superior treatment. ELITISM! What don't you understand about this?

The point is that PC gamers didn't just sit down and shut up, they made it clear that they're not going to put up with that shit. This is something that console gamers would apparently never even consider doing.

No, they would just not buy the game or stop playing it after they bought it. There are plenty of good games on all platforms, people aren't going to play a bad game because they hate sticking it to the man. Not buying the game is much more powerful than an online boycott, people listen to sales. I like to bring up BF:BC in which a group of console gamers headed by Sarcastic Gamer were actually able to stop unjust and game breaking DLC from being put in the game for a cheap buck. I suppose online petitions can work but that was a rare case with an insane amount of drive behind it. Anyway, not to get too off-topic, console gamers stop bad things from occurring in their games, and in one case before it came out. I don't think a PC community has ever done that.

A good port provides an experience equal to that of the original version, except for unavoidable improvements like mouse control, higher resolutions and shorter loading times. That is what people expect. It has absolutely fuckall to do with "elitism."

Expecting a better experience purely because you have it on the PC does, however. If you actually used the definition of elitism that I supplied before (but oh no, that doesn't count :S) than you would realise that.

I'm starting to think that you like to make up the meanings of words

Then why does UT3 on the PS3 support mods? From a technical perspective, there's nothing preventing consoles from supporting mods, rather, it all has to do with money in the end. I mean, it's abundantly clear that Microsoft doesn't want Valve to updates for their games to be free, so there's a good reason to believe that's why mods aren't supported either.

Oh really, I didn't know that. Interesting. Does it have the ability to create the mods on the PS3 or do they have to be created on the PC but available to download onto the PS3? Either, way interesting. You're wrong about Microsoft and Valve though, L4D recieved free updates and so have many other games. Restricting mods so that they can make money doesn't make much sense though. Gamers still buy DLC on the PC with Fallout 3 being an example. I'm not sure how many people downloaded those but I can't see them failing if they release 5 of them. People will still buy DLC with mod support, Microsoft doesn't seem to have much to loose.

 

[Azulito]

Right, the generalisation in this thread really pisses me off.

"All PC gamer are elitist"
"All Console gamers are childish"

I'm sorry to say this, and I'll probably get a lot of 'hate' for this but... if your opinions are similar to the sentences above then grow up.

Really, these people are human

"I am a first aider [Good Person] and I do alot of voluntary work in my spare time [Good Person], I look after my friends when they're ill too! [Good person]... Oh, I am also a PC gamer [UH OH! ELITIST DICKHOLE! EVACUATE THE BUILDING!]"(This is an example)

I know that may be silly but it's true, you're judging peoples lives and what type of person they are just over something as petty as the method they play games. A gamers is a gamer, PC or Console. Is it really THAT hard to just say "Ok, he's a console gamer. He seems a pretty nice person."? Sure, some PC gamers are elitist and some</b console gamers are childish. Making generalisations that a console is childish or people who play games via [method] are automatically bad people really helps nothing and just spreads hate.

If you're the type of person who says "I'm a PC/Console gamer and happy that way." then good for you! We need more people like you because it shows you're secure with what you have and you're comfortable and content with it, instead of being insecure about it and having to 'flame' others just to make what you have seem better; the effects are infact the oppisite.

Sorry this is pretty long but jeez people. Just get along

 

[tehroc]

Jelousy that is all

Wow that is pretty sweet

Very nice setup, however there's a certain level of irony in the posting of this picture. See if you can spot why.

You are aware that the Xbox controller is a USB adapter and is 100% plug and play on Vista...

 

[Lexandra]

The way I see it, I consider it a luxury to be a PC gamer through and through. I mean,it IS a little more pricey to update your system for upcoming games at least once every two years. So yes I do bear in my mind that I might get called out for being a stuck up PC licker, but let me ask you this: Who hasn't got at least one PC in their home?...you really can't beat that number.....i mean it's been here since....i can remember! I ain't gonna switch it with a 360, i'd be just too weird :|

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Because consoletards know nothing of the glory, options and precision of the PC, they don;t have time to think or alot of money to comprehend the value of a good working PC, so they toil and blow their brains out on simplistic disposable media fodder!!111

/rant
/troll...attempt anyway
/flame...attempt anyway

 

[Spitfire175]

They're called elitists because a lot of them are. Simple as that.

By that logic, consoletards get called consoletards because a lot of them are.
OT:

because of console fanboyism. they attack the PC because they either

A. envy the PC. (modding, etc)
B. think their way is the best way. ( IE good old tribal hostility to other tribes who dont think like them.)
C.trolls (they anger ppl for fun)
D. misinformed about the PC gamers and believe what those idiots at x-play/etc tell them to believe.
E. mistake the PC for a console with shiny bells and whistles. (its NOT a console, its a computer. PCs and consoles are not the same. they CANNOT RUN ON THE SAME SYSTEM of multiplayer, control, etc. stop expecting the PC to conform to your ways thinking it will be a good transition because it wont and it will end badly.)

And here's the reason.

 

[Deathman101]

tl;dr the whole topic

Anyway, the whole hate on PC Gamers is because we're a bunch of elitist bastards who laugh at Xbox Fanboys and their inferior consoles ;p.
Seriously, wasn't the 360 outdated a month before it was released?

 

[AlexanderAstartes]

I'm a convert from PC gaming. I now play about 70% on 360, 30% on PC and DS. There is a sense of elitism about PC games: a friend of mine still has the opinion that nothing on a console can surpass a PC game, but I still stand by there being games that work better on consoles than PC.

Basically, I think consoles are more laid back. You sit down, put the game in, you play it. You're assured the same experience as everyone else. Theres just more stress with PC games, even when you meet the system requirements, I simply find it less relaxed.