Why is bullying still an issue?

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kazeryu

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You ask why this goes on? because the most schools are to lazy to act and if they do the punishment is so minor that the bully won't stop. My little sister was bullyed and even kicked she is almost a red belt hapkido(a self defence sport), but she didn't hit back because she was afraid of detention. And because she and the school did nothing everything continued. Now most of the bullying has stopped (mostly because the bullys have left that school).
 

Savvz

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It's not going to stop until more kids bring guns to school and fuck everyone's shit up. I bet bullying at Columbine was down for a few years after '99.

I'm not saying it's the most moral option but it's the most effective.
 

Casual Shinji

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As long as kids are put together in large numbers (or even small numbers) there will always be bullying.

It's got nothing to do with bad schools or corrupt teachers, but with simple mob mentallity. Mobs consisting of hormone-driven teens; What else can you expect?
 

Titan Buttons

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My school had a zero tolerance for bullies, you punch a kid you get suspended. You tell a teacher your being teased, the teacher pretend to not be paying attention and catch the bully in the act or makes sure the bully stays away from you. I mean there were plenty of times where the school couldn't do anything because legally they need a witness to the act or it is one childs word against the others.
 

Mrmac23

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Because humans have reached a level of complete fucking stupidity that bombing everything and starting over from scratch is starting to become a considerable idea,

Sorry, am i going pyschotic again? Yeah, bringing up bullying tends to do that.
 

Magicmad5511

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The reason it still happens is because people are cruel.
The schools reason for not stopping it? They are such a mess of rules to avoid lawsuits and idiots in power that they can't get involved without some party in the event going off the handle and possibly suing them, which they can't afford.

I hate how these things work.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Because any time somthing horrible like this happens everyone sides with the bullies and says how tragic it is for them that...

They made someones life so intensely miserable that they went mental and started killing other people and/or themself.

Yeah not much sympathy from me there tbh.

What if a kid was trapped in a house with an abusive adult for five years and then snapped turned around and shot them. The sympathy would be for the kid... No such luck with people who snap when 100+ people their own age abuse them for five years in a place where they are legally bound to go to every single day. Apparently no one sees the comparison of those two situations.

I'm not condoning those who shoot up their school but I can fully understand why they would after being mentally or even physically tortured for their whole school life.

Imagine also if an adult was standing day after day with their kid or even someone elses in a public place calling them worthless and fat or stupid or saying that being gay is negative.
They would be arrested for child abuse...

Abuse is abuse. It doesn't change just becuase it's a kid doing it to another kid.

Even the response to gay kids is that 'Don't worry life will get better when you are older!'

Sorry what? No...We need to stop these kids being made miserable in the first place. They have a right to a childhood.
 

lemby117

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I've been bulied before and as such have had to move schools recently but while i was in my old school I learnt something very odd, on three seperate ocasions with three seperate people, a person was being bulied badly I steped in and got the bulies to stop 1 - 2 months later that person turned on me and started getting everyone to have a go at me Three times this happened, in three years of school, A betrayal every year has now left me with an attitude that no longer want's to help people.

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I think the real question is how stupid do you have to be to kill yourself over something said by some ass hole online?

Edit: Also there is so much bullying because school sizes are so fucking huge. When you have +1000 students in the same building for every day for years on end bullying is going to happen.
 

chiMmy

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I just can't understand this, people tried to bullied me a few times when I was around 11-12, the problem was that they were too cool for sport, while I trained both judo and football. While I was quite well trained for my age I was also very easy to anger, I went berserk on people a lot around that age.
What I mean is, if you get bullied, don't take that shit, do something about it, but DON'T FUCKING BE RETARDED; like bringing a knife or some stupid shit like that.

BlakBladz said:
Yeah, according to my experience, seeming like an unstable and dangerous guy usually help way more then anything else. I mean, who would want to kick on a guy that might come back and do something way worse to you.

Four older guys were throwing iceballs(yes, fucking iceballs)on me and a friend when I was 14. We turned around, I beat the shit out of 3 and my friend took out the 4th. I'm not sure how I did it, berserk mode usually means you're not really conscious about what you do. But I do remember running like crazy, kicking away someones feet(like I said earlier, I trained judo) and then starting to hit on the last guy untill my friend calmed me down.
To my defense, I yelled at them several times to stop.

Wow, my hand started to shake after proofreading this. Just remembering this makes me kind of angry and I haven't been really angry in years.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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shameduser said:
I think the real question is how stupid do you have to be to kill yourself over something said by some ass hole online?

Edit: Also there is so much bullying because school sizes are so fucking huge. When you have +1000 students in the same building for every day for years on end bullying is going to happen.
These kids don't kill themselves becuase one person says something to them. Often it is their entire peer group at school who gang together and make the kid feel like they are completely worthless.

Everything is relative. You can see with hindsight that school friends aren't essential to your existence but to a kid it is your entire world for five or so years. It can totally destroy people.

I agree with your point about the school sizes.
 

OldRat

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Bullying is still an issue because people are people, and that won't change. People with flaws and gifts, people who act like people. Some do good things, some do bad things, and ultimately people will act like people have acted. That, sadly, extends to the bad stuff as well.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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The reason why it still happens is becuase it is not viewed by people as serious enough of an issue. Kids think it is okay to bully becuase our society looks down on the bullied child like a lot of people in this thread and sees them as a deserved target.

How do people expect children to have fully functional social ability by the time they are 6 or 8 or even 14. I call shenanigans on that.

Serious bullying is child abuse, the minute people recognise that is the time when kids will stop dying needlessly.
 

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RaikuFA said:
At least once a month I hear of a kid killing themself or going insane. Why does it happen? Bullying is the answer. I want to ask though WHY DOSEN'T THE SCHOOL GET INVOLVED? I can understand cyberbullying but the ignore button is there for a reason, plus police care more about the bullying online than bullying that happens in schools.

Apparently, my situation still happens to this day. Day after day I was beaten down to the point where I had bruises, a bloody nose etc. The schools response? "We didn't see anything." A teacher actually encouraged me getting beaten. The schools response? "We can't do anything, she's a teacher." What if another teacher saw and we were dragged to the principals office? "Well, the kid with the bruises everyday probably started it so we're gonna suspend him for three days while the other gets a days suspension."

I mean what do you do? Whats it gonna take foor this shit to stop?
It's harder to stop than you think.

It's simply impossible, with today's overcrowded classrooms and shortage of teachers, for every child to be supervised 100% of the time. It's just not possible, sorry. And if the bathroom stall was the only place in the world they wouldn't be seen, they'd do it all there.

As a teacher, our hands are tied as far as how and when we can act. Verbal teasing is especially hard to punish, because if we don't hear it, it's a he-said-she-said war. Parents will take that to the school board, and we will be overruled... and also, we'll gain a reputation as "That teacher that pisses parents off. We need to find out how to get rid of him/her." (Remember, school boards can't fire parents, but they can fire teachers.)

And what about those cases where it really is both kids "starting it?" Or when a student chooses not to report it until they've also gotten involved, and now both have to be punished?

We always like to think our situation is cut-and-dry, because we only allow our perception of the situation. When you're looking at it from the outside, having to juggle the perceptions of a bunch of kids, a crowd of parents, an administrator, and a school board? Not so easy.

People need to go after the parents, not the teachers.
 

A Free Man

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RaikuFA said:
Hmm, well the problem is that it is easier for them to just pretend it doesn't happen. Not admiting it is a problem means they don't have to deal with it. Unfortunately that doesn't really help people in your situation. I don't really know what to say. I was lucky enough to belong to a school where although there was bullying most of it never amounted to anything as serious as some of the situations I have heard here today. All I can say is, find someone to be on your side.

Whether it is other people who are going through a similar thing you are (and believe me even if it seems like there isn't, there is always someone somewhere, hell if anything this very thread proves that) or an adult or guardian in a position where they can make it stop. If it becomes so bad at a particular school I wouldn't be opposed to either leaving or purposely getting expelled so you can leave. I know a guy in my school who hated it so much that he purposely hacked into the school server and downloaded exam answers and let the school find out so they would expel him. He was a different year to me and I didn't know him well enough to know why he did it, but I'm just saying it is an option.

NinjaDeathSlap said:
I actually strongly agree with what you have said. I know this is a hard concept for people who are in the position to understand, because clearly from their view it is just cruely unfair (which it is). But often people who are the victim of bullies are so because they make themselves the victim of bullies. Hell if I went through one day without 5 different people bagging me about something I would be completely astounded. The most important thing is to lighten up a bit. Accepting the fact that although you have faults they don't necesarily detract from who you are is extremely difficult but once you achieve it, it becomes fairly easy to brush off most if not all insults. Sure there will still be occaisions when something hits home, but they are few and far between and much easier to deal with. Unfortunately this doens't help much with the physical bullying, I think once things become physically violent it kind of changes everything.
 

chiMmy

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To the people who say that figthing with the bullies doesn't work, you're doing it the wrong way. YOU gotta become the bullie and before it gets too far, stop.
Of course that won't work with everyone, but if you make people realise that if they hurt you they get even more hurt, most will stop.

I'm not sure how to deal with those who wont stop, kicking their ass repeatedly and stop being a shutin and get some friends will probably help.

Kids aren't all that different in physique, even if someone seem stronger it's actually nothing. Ok, maybe it's a differense if someone is way overweight and someone goes to soccer two times a week. But that should be the reason to start loosing weight.
 

DrWilhelm

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I think the answer to this threads question can be found within many of the responses. "Man up", "fight back", and so on. Far too many supposed adults refuse to accept that bullying is an issue, and frankly I suspect that the people reccomending violence and social darwinism were never seriously bullied, were bullies themselves, or are attempting to hide their own traumas behind a wall of exagerrated masculine bravado.

I'm absolutely astonished by the lack of empathy some people are displaying. I'm sickened in fact, particularly by those who are blaming the victims.