Why is rape or even just sex worse than death?

[WaffleCopters]

I cant help but see heaps of people thinking about this in a way too "physical consequence" manner...
Think psycological here... Your wounds may heal, but your mind never will...unless youre lucky.

 

[PiggyJibbleFish]

I'm sure somebody's mentioned it, but I'll say it regardless...

Death is not really an experience. When you're dead, you don't feel ANYTHING. It's not like you feel being dead. I'm just being pernickety though. I suppose that people see being killed (painfully) as the scary part of death. Nobody wants to know that they're dying/ feel it.

I think that rape is worse because it's a total invasion of your body and it makes people feel sullied, like they've lost control over their own bodies. It must be awful. It's pretty much the most disrespectful, invasive, horrific thing a person can do to another person.

Death on the other hand, is not so bad. Once you're dead, you're too busy not existing to care about the not existing thing that you're now doing.

That's just a general argument for why rape is seen how it is. Probably applies to why it is censored from games, too. It makes people feel very uncomfortable. Maybe we all subconsciously accept that death is kind of a lesser evil in comparison, and thus don't really mind seeing death all that much in comparison?

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

The "worse than death" thing depends on the person, some people are stronger than others, some value their bodies or "purity" or what have you more than others. I assume if a seasoned prostitute was raped she'd be much less traumatized than a little girl...though these things are never universal and you can't have any one rule governing them.



As for why our society accepts sex much less than violence, it really is religion, yes. Japan for example who is pretty free of those kinds of religions which make sex seem sinful has a lot of mainstream sexual humor (ever see a guy get a random nosebleed that shoots like a hose? that's how they signify boners) and parents bathe naked with their kids without it being considered creepy, even if the kids are in their teens, simply cause nakedness or sexuality isn't as stigmatized.

 

[Valdus]

I'd say rape is worse. There's a special kind of trauma that follows sexual abuse and some victims are never able to get over it. The same can't be said for murder.

What's more there are plenty of reasons why someone might murder, though I've never heard of anyone rape in self defense. I've never heard of anyone taking an evil dictator out of power by raping them. Rape is done for one reason - the self-satisfaction of the rapist.

 

[Lt._nefarious]

I guess when someone gets killed its usually not brutal and meditated... I guess getting raped is more traumatic than dying in a way because you live after rape and are treated differently but when you die your dead........ I guess...

 

[ArnRand]

I hate the whole "our society is so desensitized to rape, if we can kill 1000 people in a game we should be able to rape someone" stance.

Do you people honestly want rape to be as common place as senseless murder? You can't honestly be serious right? It honestly sounds like a few of you want to justify rape here.....

Wouldn't be surprising honestly, very freudian if you ask me.

Woah, woah, woah, what are you talking about? Didn't I say in the OP that when I see rape I go eww, which is an understatement, actaully, I find it genuinely hard to watch. I was asking where this feeling came from, I don't want more rapes in games or other media.

Jesus christ, bro, don't go making assumptions that are frankly, pretty insulting.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

I think it's to do with the perpetrator...
With murder you can usually assume there's some reason for it. In games you're always given a reason why you're killing a bunch of dudes, even if it is sometimes a flimsy or merely implied reason- but rape doesn't ever serve a purpose, it only exists so the sick fucks that do it can get off or satisfy a power fantasy or whatever.
It's chilling in the same way serial killing is chilling; the people doing it gain nothing and have no cause, they're just twisted. It's a rather horrible thought that the human beings around you might do that...

 

[Baneat]

A rapist walks into your room. Would you rather he raped you or decapitated you cleanly? Either or, no wishy-washy middle choices or fence sitting.

I'd rather be raped than die.

 

[annoyinglizardvoice]

Partly I'd put the difference in perception down to the way empathy works. We can relate to pain and anguish in a way that we can't relate to death. It's also possible for death to occur quickly and/or cleanly, whereas rape can't.

 

[bojackx]

Now look at murder, I believe murder is a perfectly sound reason to defend yourself from getting murdered.

Urr... nough

Noun:
The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

Eye doughn't thinqu murdur is the right thing to do, if ewe nough somme mo'fo is koming fo ewe then goe too the po'leece.

Translated

Ah, no

Noun:
The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another

I don't think murder is the right thing to do. If you know a person wants to kill you, alert the police.

I think they mean a situation where it's kill or be killed. You wouldn't have time to alert the police if you had a knife-wielding psycho coming at you.

Interestingly enough, by that definition you used, that wouldn't be murder, as it would be justified and therefore not unlawful.

 

[Prince Regent]

Don't know. I for one have never been dead (and if I have been I certainly can't remember it). Had sex though, it was sweet.

Right serious me now *reads OP*

Wait it's about why you can't rape people in games?...Okay.. well for one you can (in fiction at least) fight and kill for a good cause. Raping for a good cause seems much less plausible. It's also much more personal and takes longer to display.

 

[ElPatron]

Because you can fight rape with violence but you can't fight violence or even rape with rape.

I don't think murder is the right thing to do. If you know a person wants to kill you, alert the police.

The police can take 4-6 minutes. It's enough to kill someone. The police isn't always there. If I was trying to kill you and watched you casually taking your phone and calling the police I'd shoot you on the sport. Or stab you multiple times. You think you're going to survive the ride to the hospital? Or does the fact that you are dead prevent you from calling an ambulance.

Anyone commits any violent act against someone, the law says you are entitled to reply with the same degree of force.

People like you make me feel that I shouldn't risk saving other people because they would prefer to call the police instead of helping me.

Are you all fucking retarded? Rape has nothing on being killed. The only reason this is even a topic is because shows on tv allow people to die yet if someone has a nip slip it's fucking catastrophic. Society is retarded on matters like this. I'll take being raped over being killed any day of the god damn week.

There are ways of being raped that would make you wish for death. Rape is equivalent to torture.

Also, nice introduction of anecdotal evidence that has nothing to do with this issue. I am sure 99% of the people here are informed enough to not give airtime to people who complain about nipple slips.

It sure speaks a lot about your character making that judgment without knowing anyone here.

 

[Don Savik]

I hate the whole "our society is so desensitized to rape, if we can kill 1000 people in a game we should be able to rape someone" stance.

Do you people honestly want rape to be as common place as senseless murder? You can't honestly be serious right? It honestly sounds like a few of you want to justify rape here.....

Wouldn't be surprising honestly, very freudian if you ask me.

Woah, woah, woah, what are you talking about? Didn't I say in the OP that when I see rape I go eww, which is an understatement, actaully, I find it genuinely hard to watch. I was asking where this feeling came from, I don't want more rapes in games or other media.

Jesus christ, bro, don't go making assumptions that are frankly, pretty insulting.

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the other repliers.

 

[ArnRand]

I hate the whole "our society is so desensitized to rape, if we can kill 1000 people in a game we should be able to rape someone" stance.

Do you people honestly want rape to be as common place as senseless murder? You can't honestly be serious right? It honestly sounds like a few of you want to justify rape here.....

Wouldn't be surprising honestly, very freudian if you ask me.

Woah, woah, woah, what are you talking about? Didn't I say in the OP that when I see rape I go eww, which is an understatement, actaully, I find it genuinely hard to watch. I was asking where this feeling came from, I don't want more rapes in games or other media.

Jesus christ, bro, don't go making assumptions that are frankly, pretty insulting.

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the other repliers.

Oh, sorry... carry on.

 

[Destude]

Because you can fight rape with violence but you can't fight violence or even rape with rape.

I don't think murder is the right thing to do. If you know a person wants to kill you, alert the police.

The police can take 4-6 minutes. It's enough to kill someone. The police isn't always there. If I was trying to kill you and watched you casually taking your phone and calling the police I'd shoot you on the sport. Or stab you multiple times. You think you're going to survive the ride to the hospital? Or does the fact that you are dead prevent you from calling an ambulance.

Anyone commits any violent act against someone, the law says you are entitled to reply with the same degree of force.

People like you make me feel that I shouldn't risk saving other people because they would prefer to call the police instead of helping me.

Are you all fucking retarded? Rape has nothing on being killed. The only reason this is even a topic is because shows on tv allow people to die yet if someone has a nip slip it's fucking catastrophic. Society is retarded on matters like this. I'll take being raped over being killed any day of the god damn week.

There are ways of being raped that would make you wish for death. Rape is equivalent to torture.

Also, nice introduction of anecdotal evidence that has nothing to do with this issue. I am sure 99% of the people here are informed enough to not give airtime to people who complain about nipple slips.

It sure speaks a lot about your character making that judgment without knowing anyone here.

Rape is sex without consent. Torture is severe pain taken to a new level. Quit comparing the two. I'm not saying rape is nothing. But when you have the option of walking into a torture chamber or a room with a hairy biker ready for your ass. It's not hard to choose. And I'm sure 90% of the people who said that rape is worse then death would be picking to be raped if the choice was ever forced upon them.

 

[ElPatron]

Rape is sex without consent. Torture is severe pain taken to a new level. Quit comparing the two. I'm not saying rape is nothing. But when you have the option of walking into a torture chamber or a room with a hairy biker ready for your ass. It's not hard to choose. And I'm sure 90% of the people who said that rape is worse then death would be picking to be raped if the choice was ever forced upon them.

>implying rape can't be painful
>implying it can't be mental AND physical torture

Yeah, imagine being pregnant from the man you love, getting raped and losing your child in the sequence of events. Being men it isn't that bad for us.

And I would prefer to spend the night in the torture chamber. Torn off nails find a cure after a year or so. AIDS doesn't.

The "worse than death" thing depends on the person, some people are stronger than others, some value their bodies or "purity" or what have you more than others

It's not about purity. It's about your body being used by other person, to the point you can't identify yourself in that body... and lose all your self-respect.

And let's not mention the psychological load of losing a child/being impregnated by a rapist. It must be like dying for everyday for the rest of your life.

 

[Rude as HECK]

Well, rape is often used as torture, especially in times of war. So yeah.

 

[Destude]

Rape is sex without consent. Torture is severe pain taken to a new level. Quit comparing the two. I'm not saying rape is nothing. But when you have the option of walking into a torture chamber or a room with a hairy biker ready for your ass. It's not hard to choose. And I'm sure 90% of the people who said that rape is worse then death would be picking to be raped if the choice was ever forced upon them.

>implying rape can't be painful
>implying it can't be mental AND physical torture

Yeah, imagine being pregnant from the man you love, getting raped and losing your child in the sequence of events. Being men it isn't that bad for us.

And I would prefer to spend the night in the torture chamber. Torn off nails find a cure after a year or so. AIDS doesn't.

But you're adding to the equation handed to us. If you kill a pregnant woman thats two lives. He asked why is rape worse then death. Which it isn't. And you would take torture over AIDS? Is that because its a death sentence?