Why is Vista so terrible?

[Dys]

People dislike vista because it is new and expensive. It has become cool to hate and it had a somewhat buggy release. People are also largely too stupid to turn off the windows security shit, which I'm sure everyone killed in XP as well, so I'm unsure why it's a big deal (it is there to save the computer illiterate from opening .exes in there emails and complaining about having a broken compuer).

People are willing to ignore that it consistantly churns out better gaming benchmarks than XP, has a far quicker load up time and is generally easier to use simply because it uses more ram while idle...People are stupidly in love with windows XP, even though it was a disguisting O/S that (especially on new-ish hardware) repetedly crashes.

I run both XP home and Vista Ultimate and can safely say from personal experience that vista is better in almost every respect, but it is different.

Data Execution Prevention (which you CAN'T turn off, despite what some people said

And yet I've not seen a computer running vista with it enabled in a very long time, you may want to explore control panel before you try and make claims like that....

 

[GRoXERs]

It's incredibly inefficient, poorly coded, still runs on top of DOS, the networking absolutely fails, still prefers to use FAT, incredibly inaccessible, compatibility goes down with every release of Windows, places security in the hands of the user (which can still be easily beaten), is a massive resource hog, unstable, the startup is poorly scripted, and a few other things I'm too lazy to write down.

Essentially, when presented with an opportunity to fix everything (releasing a new OS is usually the time to fix any major flaws in your previous design), Microsoft instead decides to take everything that is good about the OS and either overdo it to the point of futility, or remove it.

still runs on top of DOS - no. It runs on NT, just like NT, 2000, XP, and 7.
still prefers to use FAT - It's NTFS. Again, just like previous incarnations
incredibly inaccessible - Really? On the few occasions I've used it, I've found it to be decently customizable.
places security in the hands of the user (which can still be easily beaten) - PEBKAC. I actually prefer to have control of my security - it's why I have Little Snitch [http://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html] on my MacBook running OSX.

Other than that, you'll get no argument from me on any of these points.

 

[Ignignoct]

because handling files on it is a *****.

How so?

Vista: Copy, paste...do you want to move these files?
Me: Yes
Vista: are you sure?
Me; Yes
Vista: Ok, but you'll need admin approval to do it
Me: I am the admin and yes I want to move these fucking files!
Vista:You didn't say it nicely so I wont!

that being said, vista isn't a terrible OS only because it has DX10...the only reason I got it was because of Crysis.

Had Vista 64-bit since Christmas. Disabled that within the first 10 minutes of installing programs on it.

Never.

Bothered me.

Since.

Don't ride the hate train, brah.

 

[solidstatemind]

I give up.

You all are correct. You're the authorities on Vista. I'm sure you've actually spent more than 1000 work hours testing it (like I have), and determining that errors you encounter are in fact due to Microsoft's inepitude, and not to vagaries of user hardware variations and/or configuration.

Are ya done? Look, just because you've spent a whole bunch of hours beta-testing it doesn't make you an expert either. To every person who loves it, there is someone who hates it. Move on.

One problem sparky, I didn't BETA test Vista, nor did I just use it: I tested Vista. You know, like stress, performance, application and ad hoc tests? Like I got paid to specifically do just that? Did it for a year and a half, so 2500+ hours is probably closer to accurate, actually.

So yeah, I kinda think that makes me much closer to an expert on that particular operating system than most likely anyone else on this forum can claim to be.

The thing is that many people these days act much more interested in simply validating or regurgitating their opinions rather than having a logical and reasoned discussion about a topic. So, you're not participating in a conversation or even a spirited debate, you are simply yelling at one another.

Case in point: the person who, above, made entirely false claims across the board. Fortunately someone already addressed them, because I haven't had my coffee yet, and it is likely that I would've been quite rude about it in my response.

Fool that I am, I keep hoping that the situation will change, but it never does.

 

[Snowalker]

I have only one single complaint, Its takes up more RAM. Other than that, I love it.

 

[li-ion]

In more than a few topics today, I've heard people complain about Windows Vista.

But why do people hate it?

I have it on my laptop and I think it's good. Initially I had some problems getting used to stuff and finding my way around. But I gave it a fair chance and so far it didn't disappoint me. Oh yeah, it uses a lot of RAM, but it uses RAM differently to XP so I don't think it's fair to be put down because of that. Now I find my way around Vista faster than around XP on my desktop. If there wouldn't be windows 7 on the horizon already, I would upgrade my desktop to vista as well.

And so far I didn't have any crash with Vista. I don't know what people here do who complain about crashes 'all the time', but it's probably not healthy and not necessarily Vistas fault ;-)

Vista is much better than it's reputation.

 

[Ago Iterum]

[li]The stricter security system is poorly designed and just ends up getting in the way most of the time. (the frequent "please run this as administrator" things and the slow, clunky way you have to log in to do so)[/li]

I love Vista, but I hate this. You have to run EVERYTHING as administrator, it gets on my nerves.

I love the new look though, XP's look just doesn't cut it anymore.

 

[SmilingKitsune]

Well I'm not computer savy enough to really know what's so horrific about it, but I do know it won't play Dungeon keeper, and that is not cool.

If you have the disk to xp you can download Virtual Pc and it runs fine.
I know I've recently beat dungeon keeper on my vista machine for a second time, working on deeper dugeons

Sadly I don't have the disc, DK 2 will have to do.

 

[The Great JT]

Because they looked at Macintosh for innovations...

 

[Bat Vader]

In more than a few topics today, I've heard people complain about Windows Vista.

But why do people hate it?
I'm using it and I don't see what the big problem is.

Thanks in advance to everyone who gives me an actual explanation.

It kills your hard drive in about six months.

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

I have both a Vista PC and an XP, and let me say the only bad thing about vista is that some games are so crap they won't run on it, or occasionally (maybe it's just bad luck for me) your entire User Profile corrupts itself, but if you back everything up like a normal person it's fine. In fact I find file managing easier with Vista.

 

[corporate_gamer]

It took a stupidly long time to develop and really brought you nothing special for you money.

 

[Fairee]

Buying a new computer with vista on is fine. Bit different to XP but you soon get used to it.

I think if you buy vista and stick it on an old computer though it can cause problems...

 

[y8c616]

Ive got vista and i hate it. The security features make it feel like it was designed by a paranoid old man (Bill Gates perhaps?) True these settings can be turned off, bu then your computer has no security; which is debatably worse. Also vista will not run old programs (even in compatibility mode) i tried to run Cubase SX3 and windows explorer pretty much broke while the program was installed (even when not in use) also projects from the program could not be saved via the vista file system (which resulted in me loosing hours of sequencing work.)
My vista computer is on its last legs (after less than 2 years use), and i will be switching to mac soon

Edit: oh yeah it uses an inordinate amount of RAM; i bought my computer with 1gb and the RAM usage was at about 90% at any one time

 

[Moormur]

It isn't. Most Vista bashers are either Mac users or people who have never used it.

You can disable most of the annoying features in about 10 seconds, which is most of what anyone complains about anyways.

lol @ Macs.

I use Vista and I really like it. Sure, it took a week or two to get used to the new interface but it hasn't done anything that has irritated me. I got it with a new computer, so that may help with the lack of slow downs, etc. I haven't gotten a virus. I have only had it crash twice in almost three years. Never gotten the Vista equivalent of the BSoD. It does take a little fenagling to get some of my favorite games (Star Wars: Dark Forces FTW) to play because they are so old, but I suppose that comes with the territory.

Windows 7 will be taking care of almost all the problems that people mention. Someone on this forum did an excelent review of Windows 7 Beta on 2006 Compaq here http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.86144. It barely runs Vista but Windows 7 had some nice surprises for him.

 

[similar.squirrel]

It requires double the RAM and is pretty much incompatible with everything pre XP..
and because it's Microsoft.
And doesn't let you access anything that could be used to improve it somewhat. I know this because my girlfriend AND best friend put forth diatribes to the effect.

 

[Logizomechanophobia]

Different people dislike Vista for different reasons. Here are a few to choose from:
[ul][li]It's bigger, slower, and takes up more memory than XP[/li]
[li]The stricter security system is poorly designed and just ends up getting in the way most of the time. (the frequent "please run this as administrator" things and the slow, clunky way you have to log in to do so)[/li]
[li]It broke compatibility with some old software and drivers, and the makers of that software were slow to deliver fixes.[/li]
[li]The new features aren't good enough to justify the trouble of changing[/li]
[/ul]

Additionally, the biggest gripe was that many games, even ones that were released shortly before or after vista was released, wouldn't run on it. That was one of the things that annoyed me the most. I'm a person that likes to keep and replay games, so Vista preventing me from doing that was pretty annoying. However, if you only want to work and surf, or are a relative inexperienced user, Vista is superior in some aspects.

 

[Radelaide]

I give up.

You all are correct. You're the authorities on Vista. I'm sure you've actually spent more than 1000 work hours testing it (like I have), and determining that errors you encounter are in fact due to Microsoft's inepitude, and not to vagaries of user hardware variations and/or configuration.

Are ya done? Look, just because you've spent a whole bunch of hours beta-testing it doesn't make you an expert either. To every person who loves it, there is someone who hates it. Move on.

One problem sparky, I didn't BETA test Vista, nor did I just use it: I tested Vista. You know, like stress, performance, application and ad hoc tests? Like I got paid to specifically do just that? Did it for a year and a half, so 2500+ hours is probably closer to accurate, actually.

So yeah, I kinda think that makes me much closer to an expert on that particular operating system than most likely anyone else on this forum can claim to be.

The thing is that many people these days act much more interested in simply validating or regurgitating their opinions rather than having a logical and reasoned discussion about a topic. So, you're not participating in a conversation or even a spirited debate, you are simply yelling at one another.

Case in point: the person who, above, made entirely false claims across the board. Fortunately someone already addressed them, because I haven't had my coffee yet, and it is likely that I would've been quite rude about it in my response.

Fool that I am, I keep hoping that the situation will change, but it never does.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, don't call me sparky. Sorry, it annoys me. Customers use to call me that.

I didn't claim to be an expert, and you shouldn't either. Unless you're a Microsoft tech, you're about as much of an expert as the rest of us are. I listed a whole bunch of reasons for my loathing of Vista, I'm perfectly justified in them. If you want a good debate about it, I'll gladly have one with you. On here, PM, IM. Whatever floats your boat

 

[slipknot4]

It's not. I've been using vista on my laptop forever and i can't see any problems, i never turn it of, just put it on some hold thing and it boots in 40 secs with that.