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Wadders

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Well I'll be off to the pub tomorrow to nurse a nice cold pint as I watch England's last game of this World Cup.

I tried to keep the faith, I really did, but alas I fear for our chances tomorrow. The fact it's against Germany makes it even worse :(

Anyone else feel the same way? Or will we somehow manage to claw our way back, for another game at least?
 

wuthebest

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HK_01 said:
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Okay, just a random question: If the goalie of one team joins the attack and is in the enemy's box, can he use his hands?
Nope, keepers can't use their hands outside their own box, even then, they can't use them if a teamate passes the ball back to them. And really, I think every team would have time wasted if they were in Ghana's position.
 

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i agree with the user above.

in the 1/4 finals there must be at least one team from Africa! Ghana it is and good for football!
i couldnt imagine if the world cup was on europe and that in the 1/4finals there wasnt an european team there :O it would breake my heart ^^

GOOOO PORTUGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FABIO COENTRAO!!!!!!


btw tomorrow it will be like 2 finals :O on the 1/8 already having Germany/England and Argentina/Mexico really weird world cup this one! ^^
 

Pariah87

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Unlucky USA, I never saw the whole game but it looked like the Ghanans deserved it in the end. Well done for topping the group and suprising alot of people though, see you in 4 years.

Now it's all about England tomorrow now. COME ON ENGLAND!
 

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It was a fun game, until overtime...
Sorry Ghana, I appreciated your play until you pulled an Italy and fell down every 2 seconds. One of the Ghana players fell over without anyone even touching him! Com'on.

Not really happy with how it turned out, but the US played honestly and I wish we could have gone on.
 

MiracleOfSound

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VanityGirl said:
It was a fun game, until overtime...
Sorry Ghana, I appreciated your play until you pulled an Italy and fell down every 2 seconds. One of the Ghana players fell over without anyone even touching him! Com'on.

Not really happy with how it turned out, but the US played honestly and I wish we could have gone on.
Me too. The US team were honest, sporting and had a great personality. We need more teams like that. I think they'll begin to be a big name in World football from now on. I really liked the coach too, it was sad to see his heart breaking tonight.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
VanityGirl said:
It was a fun game, until overtime...
Sorry Ghana, I appreciated your play until you pulled an Italy and fell down every 2 seconds. One of the Ghana players fell over without anyone even touching him! Com'on.

Not really happy with how it turned out, but the US played honestly and I wish we could have gone on.
Me too. The US team were honest, sporting and had a great personality. We need more teams like that. I think they'll begin to be a big name in World football from now on. I really liked the coach too, it was sad to see his heart breaking tonight.
I agree. Our players didn't try to milk injuries for a foul, that is something I really like.
And the coach of the US team made me want to cry, he's such a standup guy.
 

MiracleOfSound

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VanityGirl said:
MiracleOfSound said:
VanityGirl said:
It was a fun game, until overtime...
Sorry Ghana, I appreciated your play until you pulled an Italy and fell down every 2 seconds. One of the Ghana players fell over without anyone even touching him! Com'on.

Not really happy with how it turned out, but the US played honestly and I wish we could have gone on.
Me too. The US team were honest, sporting and had a great personality. We need more teams like that. I think they'll begin to be a big name in World football from now on. I really liked the coach too, it was sad to see his heart breaking tonight.
I agree. Our players didn't try to milk injuries for a foul, that is something I really like.
And the coach of the US team made me want to cry, he's such a standup guy.
haha, that's exactly what I thought too... I was trying not to get emotional during his interview :(

I hope they go on to great things though, football as a sport is dying and it needs fair minded, forward thinking teams to bring it back to life and make it fun to watch again.
 

oliveira8

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Hehe, people crying over a team that cheats it way over. You are aware that lying and cheating are part of the game, it takes quite the experience to do it well to.
MiracleOfSound said:
VanityGirl said:
MiracleOfSound said:
VanityGirl said:
It was a fun game, until overtime...
Sorry Ghana, I appreciated your play until you pulled an Italy and fell down every 2 seconds. One of the Ghana players fell over without anyone even touching him! Com'on.

Not really happy with how it turned out, but the US played honestly and I wish we could have gone on.
Me too. The US team were honest, sporting and had a great personality. We need more teams like that. I think they'll begin to be a big name in World football from now on. I really liked the coach too, it was sad to see his heart breaking tonight.
I agree. Our players didn't try to milk injuries for a foul, that is something I really like.
And the coach of the US team made me want to cry, he's such a standup guy.
haha, that's exactly what I thought too... I was trying not to get emotional during his interview :(

I hope they go on to great things though, football as a sport is dying and it needs fair minded, forward thinking teams to bring it back to life and make it fun to watch again.
What the hell you talking about? Football was always like this. Shit, the card system is only been around since the 1970's. Yellow/Red card only brought a new tactical element to the game, and that is to make the other team accumulate more cards than the other via some acting lessons.

There was never fair playing in football. Never. Tricking the referee was always a part of the game and so was getting your hands dirty to win. Just go watch Maradona scoring goals with his hand or Portugal beating the living shit out of Brasil in 66. It has always been like that. Don't be fool and go on "In the ol' days this stuff was better". ^^

(^Not meant to offend)
 

MiracleOfSound

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oliveira8 said:
What the hell you talking about?
Calm the agression there, buddy. Now...

oliveira8 said:
Football was always like this. Shit, the card system is only been around since the 1970's. Yellow/Red card only brought a new tactical element to the game, and that is to make the other team accumulate more cards than the other via some acting lessons.

There was never fair playing in football. Never. Tricking the referee was always a part of the game and so was getting your hands dirty to win. Just go watch Maradona scoring goals with his hand or Portugal beating the living shit out of Brasil in 66. It has always been like that. Don't be fool and go on "In the ol' days this stuff was better". ^^

(^Not meant to offend)
There has always been an element of cheating but there are a few reasons it is unnaccaptable nowadays:

1. They could fix it with a video ref. This shit never happens in rugby.

2. FIFA shares refereeing duties out with smaller nations who have no experience with big games. Surely you agree that many games in this WC have been ruined by atrocious refereeing? Brazil v Ivory Coast match was a disgrace to the sport.

3. Players are more and more often diving and getting away with it. They need more yellow cards for divers.
 

oliveira8

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MiracleOfSound said:
oliveira8 said:
What the hell you talking about?
Calm the agression there, buddy. Now...
I wasn't being aggressive.

But why? It's been part of the sport since it exists. You see the last Spain match with Chile? How Torres got a guy expelled for nothing? That's part of the game. Believe it or not pulling a stunt like that is no mean feat.

When Maradona talked about his famous "Hand of God" he said that right after he scored the goal, he had to wave to his teammates to celebrate the goal, or else the ref wouldn't validate it. A guy has to know how to cheat. When Henry gave a lil' hand against Ireland? Damn he knew what he was doing. He is an asshole, but the an asshole that knows how to do asshole stuff.

What hurts the sport is braindead/bought referees. Like the ass from Brasil vs Ivory Coast that knew that Fabiano used the hand TWICE to control the ball.
That is FIFA problem for not picking up competent referees, not the players cheating their way. FIFA on that regard is the one that has to be blamed hard. The same FIFA that though that hosting the World Cup would be cool in South Africa. This by far one of the worst if not the worst WC in history. Not because some games are dull, but everything about it is bad.

Empty sold out stadiums? Check.
Crap ball? Check.
Awful pitch condition? Check.
Vuvuzelas? Check.

Anyway I'm drifting. Back to the point in hand. Video ref's? Never. Football had always the "Lying, cheating and stealing" quality since ever, taking it away it's removing a spirit out of it.

A player that knows how to trick the ref is has important has a player that scores a load of goals. The main problem is the scumbag dirty referees.
A player taking a perfect 10 dive and fooling the referee? That's part of the game, it sucks at first in the end you will be laughing.
A referee that smiles at the dude who just used his hands twice to score a goal? Burn that creep.

This comes from a a guy that watches the Portuguese league. A league in which half of the referees are bought(sadly not by my team) and the other are pure crap.
 

Grahav

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One argument that I had heard Fifa uses is that if vids are used the football/soccer won't look like accessible to the poor people, that soccer must be accessible to everyone and low budget leagues won't be able to pay if they need to pay for cameras.

Ha, ha.

I believe that if you are able to have the best quality product you should get it. Else the world cup would be played in soil fields, with sock balls, and mismatched trees for goals, and no judges. Talk about cheap.

My compliments to US for playing the fair game, to be always fighting and not milking wounds
(in Brazil that gay shit is known as "Catimba" and it is a plague in South America).

Edit 1 - And Landon Donovan is a great player.
 

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I got Ghana and Brazil on the sweepstakes at work.Those who got France and Italy laughed at my little Ghana boys,but where are their so called superior teams now ehhh??
The knock-out rounds are my favourite,especially penalty time!
Spain to win,going by Villa's form so far.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
3. Players are more and more often diving and getting away with it. They need more yellow cards for divers.
There was one game where there was actually a yellow given to a diver, and I pretty much cheered. It's a shame that a lot of my fellow Americans are getting introduced to football/soccer with a bunch of people diving every time something almost hits them. With our culture, being as insecure about its masculinity as it is, that simply will not fly.

Anyway, good game from the Americans. Would've been nice to see the ref try to push the game along, but whatever. Now to root for the Netherlands because I like their jerseys!
 

HK_01

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I can't wait for the game later today. England will be defeated! All hail the psychic octopus!
 

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HK_01 said:
I can't wait for the game later today. England will be defeated! All hail the psychic octopus!
Paule has predicted our victory, therefor we cannot lose. Come on, guys! Make Rooney eat his provocation, every single word of it!