Continuity said:
hear hear, some people just don't realise that some gamers take competitive gaming very seriously, very much like a sport. People don't deride athletes for taking their sport seriously, why should we be any less tolerant of serious gamers?
Exactly. I've pretty much quit WoW for now, been off from active raiding scene for 9 months soon but when I was around, my guild was borderline hardcore. Like on Ulduar release we raided 6-10 hours a day when competing for the server firsts. Those were our goals which we worked for during the whole month prior the patch and we did have to kick out several people that we thought wouldn't measure up with the rest of the guild. Some didn't want to work that extra lenght, others just weren't clearly good enough. Now does that make us bad people for not including them on our raids? Yes we even kicked out people for not using the vent or not having a microphone. It was a major inconvenience on encounters that, we as a raiding community, were still learning.
I also think that we don't know the full story here. Having completed only "10 man naxx once" seems pretty much bull. If this was true, then the guild master was propably a kid who wanted to have a feel for a competitive guild and created the rules and stood by them without thinking all the consequences through. Sadly I've seen that to happen aswell.
Anyway, like others have already said, I wouldn't have kicked this guy out from the guild. Probably would've included him in on "farm" raids where no new encounters were done and where the other 24 could've easily carried that one person along. But if the guild is serious about progress and actually being competitive, I wouldn't bring someone who couldn't use vent on progress encounters. That would just most likely ruin the game for the other 24 players. Since we don't know the full story, both sides could've been at fault with the whole downfall between them.
