Woodsey said:
I don't know about that; he looked more beat up in Indy 4 than any other of the other 3 (probably because Ford was). And yeah, it's mysticism, it's also bullshit that requires total suspension of disbelief, as is the tank scene, but because you know what type of film it is (knowing that it's just a film to begin with), I don't see why everyone suddenly feels the need to give it the scientific treatment.
The mine cart scene in Temple of Doom has him defeat gravity.
The fridge scene wasn't even the worst part, really. The fact that the script went through so many rewrites was a big enough sign that this movie shouldn't have been made.
- Indiana Jones doesn't belong in the 50's.
- Harrison Ford came across as way too old and tired to play Indy again. They could've played off that by making him lose his place in the world as an aging hero, but they didn't.
- Marian looked like she was stoned all the way through the movie.
- I like Cate Blanchet, but she was not in any way a menacing villain. The previous movies had great creepy villians that you couldn't wait to see die in some extravagant way.
- The Indy trilogy was all practical effects and stunts which makes them so thrilling to watch. Indy 4 was all CGI and soundstages.
- The whole subplot between Indy and Ray Winstone with him being Indy's friend, then betraying him, then being a double agent, and back to being a traitor felt like it was written by a 5-year old.
There's also diffence in questioning the logic of a science fiction movie as opposed to that of a fantasy movie. I don't have a problem suspending my disbelieve if Gandalf jumps on top of a giant eagle and flies away in
Lord of the Rings, but if I see the Terminator doing it then it's going to look fucking stupid.
And in the Indiana Jones movies there were always clear boundries between the events of the natural world (war, the Nazis, tank battles and fist/fire fights) and the supernatural events (the ark of the covenant, face melting, heart ripping, burning stones, the holy grail, rapid aging).
I don't have a problem with someone's heart being ripped out with him still being alive if it's within the context of a supernatural event. But if someone tries to pull off Indy surviving a nuclear blast in a fridge that crash lands miles away with him being A-okay in a the context of a real world environment, then I'm going to call major bullshit.
Not that I think the movie should be erased from existence, because as you can tell by my posts, I love ripping on it.