Your View on Physically Hitting the Oppsite sex

[twistedshadows]

If I started hitting a guy, I wouldn't expect him not to hit back just because I'm female. I also would necessarily defend myself against any guy who started attacking me. Not defending yourself because of the other person's gender is such a stupid excuse. If your school is supporting this viewpoint, the administration is being sexist - which is never okay, no matter how much authority they have.

They want equality? They got it.

Except that, in the situation the OP has described, the females should be getting trouble instead of the guys who are defending themselves. Doesn't seem very equal (or fair) to me.

 

[Yegargeburble]

I don't really care what their gender is...if they hit me, I will make sure that it doesn't happen again.

 

[Dogstile]

They want equality? They got it.

thats a /thread right there

 

[HazukiHawkins]

Now if they attack you with a melee-weapon (knife, brass knuckles etc), I'd go for the throat in an instant and even risk some substantial damage on their part to defend myself (if you put too much pressure on the larynx, it can break and the effected person can suffocate, so be carefull with that).

Wouldn't a quick kick to the stomach be safer? Longer range, after all, and it's just as effective for that "can't breathe" feeling that so effectively destroys the will to fight... for that matter, you could kick the attacker in the leg until she loses her combat ability. If she's really stubborn, you could kick the other leg too; somewhere along that line you ought to have the opportunity to escape and report the attack.

Yes, but if you got a good hold on their throat, you can control them better without inflicting any damage at all.
And never underestimate the shockeffect when the attacked advances on the attacker rapidly. Half-arsed attacks that would otherwise be carried through can be crashed by such a move.

While there is a certain risk with aproaching the assailant, I dislike uncontrollable actions like kicking into the stomach, since you can inflict some serious internal injuries by doing stuff like that. I'm more a fan of small, precise and effective methods of disabling and disarming someone.

Like choking them into submission while their arms and legs are completely free...?

I agree with you on the other point though, you shouldn't injure them if you can avoid it and on that note, you don't have to kick them hard. Knowing one's own strength and being able to control and vary it is what separates, say, a martial artist, from a thug. And if they catch you with a rush, you could knee them instead; again, with just enough force to incapacitate without injuring.

 

[Inarticulate_Underachiever]

Well I normally forget to bring my tazer with me out on the streets so if a woman attacks me I'm going to have to use my fists to defend myself.

 

[GoldenRaz]

That question is kinda directed at guys, isn't it? As you say yourself, noone would accuse a girl/woman to be a violent brute if they would hit a boy/man.

Anywho, on topic, YES, if a girl/woman would start beating me and continue to do so when I try to tell her to stop, I would get physical and either push her away or, if it has to come to that, hit back.

And it would be bullcrap if it would be considered shameful if I was merely defending myself. Sure, IF I would beat her without it being in defense(which I certainly would NOT), then it should be considered shameful. But unfortunantly, women are generally considered weak and men strong. When we can consider women as violent brutes and men as victims, the world will be that much better.

 

[ExodusinFlames]

I think violence should be a dead last option regardless. But, passion rules reason.
People in general need to learn to walk away when they're pissed enough to hit someone. Could prevent alot of issues, and thats regardless of the gender-line. My g/f and I have been together for six years and guaranteed shes wanted to deck me out a few times and I've wanted to shake some sense into her head. With us, when words fail, one of us goes for a walk or into another room to cool off. It has childish connotations, taking personal timeouts and what not, but it sure beats going to jail.

 

[Specter_]

Now if they attack you with a melee-weapon (knife, brass knuckles etc), I'd go for the throat in an instant and even risk some substantial damage on their part to defend myself (if you put too much pressure on the larynx, it can break and the effected person can suffocate, so be carefull with that).

Wouldn't a quick kick to the stomach be safer? Longer range, after all, and it's just as effective for that "can't breathe" feeling that so effectively destroys the will to fight... for that matter, you could kick the attacker in the leg until she loses her combat ability. If she's really stubborn, you could kick the other leg too; somewhere along that line you ought to have the opportunity to escape and report the attack.

Yes, but if you got a good hold on their throat, you can control them better without inflicting any damage at all.
And never underestimate the shockeffect when the attacked advances on the attacker rapidly. Half-arsed attacks that would otherwise be carried through can be crashed by such a move.

While there is a certain risk with aproaching the assailant, I dislike uncontrollable actions like kicking into the stomach, since you can inflict some serious internal injuries by doing stuff like that. I'm more a fan of small, precise and effective methods of disabling and disarming someone.

Like choking them into submission while their arms and legs are completely free...?

I agree with you on the other point though, you shouldn't injure them if you can avoid it and on that note, you don't have to kick them hard. Knowing one's own strength and being able to control and vary it is what separates, say, a martial artist, from a thug. And if they catch you with a rush, you could knee them instead; again, with just enough force to incapacitate without injuring.

You don't choke them. You can try it: grab your larynx and put a little bit of pressure on it, it hurts like hell, but you can still breath (also that hurts as well).
And of course you don't just stand there, having your hand on their throat. With a little bit of movement for- and downwards, you can fix them on the ground and disarm them.

 

[Kiutu]

If they hit you, and you returned it equally, or maybe a bit more due to just naturally being stronger fine. If a woman slaps you though and you start beating on her with your fists well...
Though women should not feel so slap happy either. Often in something a man will hit on a woman badly and they get slapped by the woman, I always hated that.
Overall though I find it is better to just not have hitting at all. Mostly because I personally hate being hit, and yes I have been punched in the face once by this guy who if he got hit by a truck, I would feel good. But hate aside, I prefer people 'use their words'. Even super mean swear ones.

 

[Tullio]

There's nothing dogmatic about it. It's the women of the world that demanded equality. They didn't want some, they wanted it all. It's only their fault if they failed to realize the ramifications of getting equality. You can't have some. It's either all or none.

Some of them did, yes. My point is that simply adhering to "equality" in principle is absurd. "Equality" does not have in itself any value, good or bad. Being nice to one another is more important, because what we really want as a society is to be collectively content

 

[Agayek]

Like choking them into submission while their arms and legs are completely free...?

I agree with you on the other point though, you shouldn't injure them if you can avoid it and on that note, you don't have to kick them hard. Knowing one's own strength and being able to control and vary it is what separates, say, a martial artist, from a thug. And if they catch you with a rush, you could knee them instead; again, with just enough force to incapacitate without injuring.

You'd be surprised what a throat grab will do to an untrained attacker. The shock is usually enough to get them to release any weapons they happen to be holding, and you can fairly easily get them into some kind of joint lock or pin in the couple seconds before they react.

Edit:

Some of them did, yes. My point is that simply adhering to "equality" in principle is absurd. "Equality" does not have in itself any value, good or bad. Being nice to one another is more important, because what we really want as a society is to be collectively content

Equality is being nice to someone. Treating them as your equal is the nicest thing you can do, especially when compared to the alternative of treating them as inferior.

 

[Skeleon]

As a man, you don't hit a woman.
Never.

If she attacks you, you're free to shove her away, dodge her, maybe even trip her up.

But you don't ever hit a woman.

 

[TheTygerfire]

"Is it okay for a man to hit a women in Self Defense" ?

Yes.

 

[ExodusinFlames]

You don't choke them. You can try it: grab your larynx and put a little bit of pressure on it, it hurts like hell, but you can still breath (also that hurts as well).
And of course you don't just stand there, having your hand on their throat. With a little bit of movement for- and downwards, you can fix them on the ground and disarm them.

That can be a very bad idea. It can incite a panic response which can afterwards involve very sore testicles. If you're going for restrait the best method is quite simply a "Bear-hug", pinning the arms preventing flailing, though you may receive a forehead to the nose or if you're quick enough, the arms behind the back method. Most effecient and annoying to get out of ... unless the person you're restraining is a decendant of Houdini.

 

[ExodusinFlames]

As a man, you don't hit a woman.
Never.

If she attacks you, you're free to shove her away, dodge her, maybe even trip her up.

But you don't ever hit a woman.

Why?

 

[Tullio]

Equality is being nice to someone. Treating them as your equal is the nicest thing you can do, especially when compared to the alternative of treating them as inferior.

If that's the way you feel about the issue I won't challenge you. I don't think equality nessecarily always is a good thing. Usually it is. Sometimes it isn't especially when practicality gets in the way. The world isn't always ready for big radical changes that are good in themselves, but difficult to get through. Womens rights has been a long hard slog fought for by some very stubborn women (The members of the NUWSS I consider particularly worthy). But does it have to go all the way? Is it really so wrong for me to hit a woman less readily than a man? Or to help a woman with a manual task because I know I'm stronger than her and can do it quite easily?

 

[JanatUrlich]

I'd be kind've offended if a guy didn't hit me just coz I was a girl. If the girl starts the fight then yes, the guy should hit her

 

[Nmil-ek]

Depends I avoid fighting if I can avoid it in most situations but it goes against my personal ideals to hit women, now thats a variable used to do factory work and some of these women could benchpress three of me then i have no problem going all out or id probably be kiled >.>

 

[Specter_]

You don't choke them. You can try it: grab your larynx and put a little bit of pressure on it, it hurts like hell, but you can still breath (also that hurts as well).
And of course you don't just stand there, having your hand on their throat. With a little bit of movement for- and downwards, you can fix them on the ground and disarm them.

That can be a very bad idea. It can incite a panic response which can afterwards involve very sore testicles. If you're going for restrait the best method is quite simply a "Bear-hug", pinning the arms preventing flailing, though you may receive a forehead to the nose or if you're quick enough, the arms behind the back method. Most effecient and annoying to get out of ... unless the person you're restraining is a decendant of Houdini.

If you do it right and fast, you have them on the ground before they know whats happening. That needs some practice of course, but those who made me do this to them never got a hand on me.