Kryson said:
matrix3509 said:
If the internal programming of people were actually that efficient, the earth would be ruled by scientists by now, with the jock becoming extinct after the second generation.
Scientists are not genetically superior. Intelligence is an important factor, but there are plenty of species who rely on power and speed that are at the top of the food chain.
Back to the topic at hand, it has been beaten into the ground. Men are genetically made to want to mate as much as possible. Guys who say this is not true are either A) lying, B) in denial, or C) truly asexual. I'd say A and B are the more likely answers. Wanting to have sex does not make one a pig and one can certainly be a "gentleman" and have a healthy lust for sex. The thing about humans is that we can easily go against our natural instincts if we so choose. It's just much easier to follow said instincts. Or get a girl (or guy if that's how you go) that likes to have sex.
Its amazing how you missed my point completely. A woman can not look at you and know about your genes from one glance. Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said scientists were genetically superior, just like jocks aren't either. As a species, human beings are pretty much past the stage of worrying about getting killed by the nearest wooly mammoth. We are at the stage where intelligence
should be the deciding factor in moving the species forward. However, biology is slow and sometimes acts like the retarded cousin of common sense.
Not Good said:
You do realize that the most burly of Gorillas were the ones more likely to be gettin' some? So your theory is in fact an anti-theory proving once again that nerds are pretty much doomed to a life of less sex.
You do realize that none of the shit you just said actually applies to humans beings in the age of the internet right? How the fuck does a
gorilla of all things have anything to do with human beings in this day and age? Gorillas can't speak, have only the absolute basic motor controls and problem solving abilities. Hell we can create
computers smarter and more adaptable than gorillas. As I said above, we are living in an age where we no longer have to worried about wild animals killing use. We are at the stage where we can now go to places to see wild animals dance for our decadent amusement. None of the shit that mattered 4 million years ago at the dawn of
Homo Erectus matters now. At all.
The Bottom Line: The problem with all of this is that biology moves at such a slow pace, that just because we are ready to move on to more important things, we are still stuck in the fucking dark ages.
Saskwach said:
From what I've read it's a little more complicated than that. Women in fact have a couple competing desires. Firstly, they want to get the best genetic...sample they can. That means getting it from Big Strong Alpha Male. However, Big Strong Alpha Male, by his very nature as the alpha male, is very unlikely to hang around, especially for kids. This leaves the woman in a pickle: she needs a man who'll raise these kids. In many cases, she'll then go with Reliable Loser (to put it harsher than it is) who will love her and his kids - or are they? This theory partly explains the drive for adultery, at least on the female side of that issue: you play around with the milkman, but stick with your hubby, who you know will stay with you. In other words, women can't be checked off as the monogamous sex; they have their own biological imperatives towards playing around.
Oh, and the jock has as many, if not more, biological reasons for being than the geek. Fitness, health and good looks (an indicator of good genes) are all good things. Of course nowadays things are a bit less on his side, but tell that to the cavemen whose best chance for survival was a strong spear arm.
All of that depends on which species you are talking about. From what you said, it seems like you are talking more about lions than humans. We don't really know what our evolutionary behavior was before the advent of speech and written language. To assume that because one species' social behavior is one way, does not mean every other species of animal is the same.
Penguins for example, choose a life mate, yes even the alpha male. The alpha penguin does not go around screwing everything that moves.
However, even if you are correct, there is still my argument that all this social programming hardwired into us are hopelessly outdated at this stage in our evolutionary line. Its about time our code was reformatted and rewritten with a little more competence.
Can you imagine, how long we would last in outer space if we were still concerned about such trivial tripe as to who will keep the wild animals at bay?