Avatar Depression

[Zac_Dai]

Really?!
I would have loved it if they burned the entire planet to get at the unobtainium.
I prefer our cities to that stone age socioty that the Na'vi have.
Hell, why didn't they just genocide the Na'vi with WMD's or something?!

Spoiler: my favourite scenes were

....when the Humans blew the home tree to bits and when the Na'vi were charging the Humans on horses and on foot and the Humans greeted them with a wall of high velocity metal....oh yes.

You're just as insane as they are and like them not in a "cool" way.

But this the internet and I don't expect anything else.

Oh really?
You think that the fact that I think that we shouldn?t give a shit about an inferior race makes me the equal of those that are suicidal because they can't go to Pandora?

Yes.

Since both conclusions are arrived at using extremely unsound logic.

My logic is valid.
It's simply a difference in opinion.

Of course you think its valid, otherwise you wouldn't have come to that conclusion.

But genocide is never the best solution to a problem since there is always far better ways to solve it. Thus it being your opinion makes no difference.

So it still holds true that your logic is unsound.

They would not leave so we had to force them out of their homes.
I can say the same to you about your opinion, your bleeding heart outlook on the world is illogical to me.

"bleeding heart"? When did I ever mention morals in any shape or form?

I'm simply using reason to show how genocide isn't the best solution and if you had put more thought into it you would have realised that.

In the case of Avatar and the big tree.

If they wouldn't move then why not just use sub surface mining instead of open pit mining? That way the tree wouldn't need to be cut down and people forcefully removed. Instead they didn't and it ended in a fight they lost, so how was that the best solution?

I'm not trying to flame you or get a forum victory here. I'm simply trying to get you to think.

 

[kawaiiamethist]

Shit, I'm more depressed Cameron didn't put as much effort into his script and fleshing out his characters that he did in creating that world.

Yes, it's kind of like the story that 15 year old kid in the 7 11 told you about how he hurt his leg running from the cops and then the nurse at the hospital "totally ended up blowing him." It's a wives' tale, for insipid people.

Tell me, who's lead should Cameron have followed in fleshing out his characters and script? Who did a much better job on what movie?

That first part, eh, what?

As for the second, Cameron's problem is that he took his sterotypes and ran with them. The bad guys were cartoon characters and the good guys were your standard goodie goodies. I'm especially disappointed with the villains of the piece, because they were given nothing beyond greedy and mental.

We all know there's an audience for movies produced purely for spectacle (Transformers, for example), and if I believed this was one of those I wouldn't be so hard on it, but Cameron was trying to make a statement about the evils of collonialism and environmental devastation. He did it in a such a dumbed downed, morning cartoon fashion that I couldn't get lost in this world or the message. I'm not trying to be a troll, and if you loved this movie, that's great, you got your money's worth, but for me, to see such care taken with the graphics and little with the script, it's a disappointment.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

People on the internet are crazy. I mean it would be cool to go there but seriously? It's fake. That's like being depressed that you can't actually be inside WoW. The film immersed you into the environment, yes, but if you can't handle not being on a fake planet so much that you would kill yourself over it, you are insane and don't need to be allowed to go to see movies. That's just it.

 

[Ericb]

I finally got to see what those 3D Glasses were all about. Yeah, it was cool and all. But that world has waaay too many colors for its own good. It's a big thing among 3D artists, filling the images with as much color as you can get away with.

The Avatar blues is one of those urban phenomenons that are interesting to observe. From a safe distance.

That fictional world is way too colorful and nearly everything is gigantic and lethal. No thanks.

Oh, on a side note: Don't feed the troll, please.

 

[Captain Schpack]

Really?!
I would have loved it if they burned the entire planet to get at the unobtainium.
I prefer our cities to that stone age society that the Na'vi have.
Hell, why didn't they just genocide the Na'vi with WMD's or something?!

Spoiler: my favourite scenes were

....when the Humans blew the home tree to bits and when the Na'vi were charging the Humans on horses and on foot and the Humans greeted them with a wall of high velocity metal....oh yes.

Are you by any chance American?

I laughed at the story. Yeah, I'd love to go there to but I'm not gunna kill myself over it.

 

[wooty]

Im sad that I can never own and use materia, doesn't make me want to hang myself........much

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Wait what? There depressed because they can't be in a movie? They do realize that Pandora has animals that WANT TO KILL THEM right?

I meant, I thought Fallout 3's world looked cool, but I would never want to visit it.

 

[AWC Viper]

Really?!
I would have loved it if they burned the entire planet to get at the unobtainium.
I prefer our cities to that stone age socioty that the Na'vi have.
Hell, why didn't they just genocide the Na'vi with WMD's or something?!

Spoiler: my favourite scenes were

....when the Humans blew the home tree to bits and when the Na'vi were charging the Humans on horses and on foot and the Humans greeted them with a wall of high velocity metal....oh yes.

i must agree with you there...

 

[Samurai Goomba]

I wouldn't want to live there. People forget how much everything wants to kill you on Pandora. Even the Na'vi probably don't live very long in their society. I mean, not by their own maximum lifetime or whatever.

 

[soilent]

I saw it, it was Great, AT BEST.

That story was probably paid for by fox, whoring thier movie for all it is worth.

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

Really?!
I would have loved it if they burned the entire planet to get at the unobtainium.
I prefer our cities to that stone age socioty that the Na'vi have.
Hell, why didn't they just genocide the Na'vi with WMD's or something?!

Spoiler: my favourite scenes were

....when the Humans blew the home tree to bits and when the Na'vi were charging the Humans on horses and on foot and the Humans greeted them with a wall of high velocity metal....oh yes.

Those were quite stunning scenes, showing our superiority. Even though they are larger, by our scientific advancement we make ourselves more powerful than them.
Plus it kinda shows that we kick ass. Even though if they even had a half-decent diplomat they could have solved the situation without bloodshed...

 

[soilent]

to quote an escapist...
"This has got to be the stupidest thing i've head since I called the Walrus Hotline."

 

[ShadowKatt]

I suppose I can claim a little bit of this. I felt a little depressed watching Avatar. But then I moved to the Dallas/Ft. Worth Metroplex a few years ago after living in the countryside of Michigan for 21 years, so a lot of it was reminding me of what I left behind. Don't get me wrong, I love technology, but there are days I'd kill fi'ty men and risk getting my shins blown off just to go back there for a while. Granted, my home never looked like Pandora, but it was still a natural paradise, and while my home was far from a paradise, I still loved it there.

...Huh...really? But our real world is so awesome with it's multiple varied landscapes and everything not having creepy tentacles...

Must be furries. Always blame the furries.

And while you're at it, don't forget to throw the jews back in their ovens and hang the christans from their crosses.

 

[Zac_Dai]

"bleeding heart"? When did I ever mention morals in any shape or form?

I'm simply using reason to show how genocide isn't the best solution and if you had put more thought into it you would have realised that.

In the case of Avatar and the big tree.

If they wouldn't move then why not just use sub surface mining instead of open pit mining? That way the tree wouldn't need to be cut down and people forcefully removed. Instead they didn't and it ended in a fight they lost, so how was that the best solution?

I'm not trying to flame you or get a forum victory here. I'm simply trying to get you to think.

They obviously could not otherwise they would have.
If they mined under the tree the ground would have collapsed, destroying the tree anyway.
And why not kill them off, they're a bunch of primitives and they did not want us on the planet which is why they were attacking us and they Na'vi were refusing to leave the tree so

The films plot and lack of backstory doesn't help in these discussions.

But I don't think mining under the tree would have caused it to collapse since most trees have very wide root structures. Also with the technology available it probably would have been possible to avoid mining under certain load bearing areas of the tree.

Its more likely that due to open pit mining being a lot cheaper and the misplaced idea that they wouldn't be able to fight back caused them not consider such an option.

Either way there may have been other deposits further away they could have tried. But as I said the plot and backstory of the film make it hard to explore all options.

Also "putting them down would have made it easier for us." why state that when it had the exact opposite in the film?

Another problem with you train of thought is I can do this with it:

"And why not kill them off, they're a bunch of stupid paddys and they did not want us on Irish soil which is why they were attacking us English and the Irish were refusing to comply so"

Ireland was a backwards country and totally inferior to British might. I mean by your logic I shouldn't even bother talking to someone of your background. Fuck peace talks we should have just had a full out invasion once you had the audacity to rebel and if that failed, well its nuke time!

Do you agree with this?

 

[beddo]

Isn't this why we are blessed with an imagination? Seriously, I mean this is stuff kids do; see a story and then 'play' in that world. It's something I still do, on the train I imagine cool scenarios from different worlds that I've seen in games and film. I thought of cool sequences for avatar after watching it.

Like a few people have stated though, these feeling of 'depression' are most likely down to wanting attention or probably indicative of a deeper problem.