Change.org Petition Demands Legal Gay Marriage For Ernie and Bert

[General BrEeZy]

THEY'RE JUST BROS!!! THEY'RE BASICALLY COLLEGE ROOMMATES FOR SH*TS SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheesh people.

 

[ShindoL Shill]

/facepalm

Let me see if I can explain this.

Back in 1965, there was a stage play called "The Odd Couple", which featured one neat/neurotic room-mate and one slovenly/sloppy room-mate. The entire idea was that the neat one brought order to the other's life, while the slovely one brought fun to the neat one's life.

But they WEREN'T GAY.

Neither is Starsky and Hutch (though David Soul is), Xena and Gabrielle, Fonz and Richie, Laverne and Shirley, Barney and Fred, Ren and Stimpy or Batman and Robin.

They just aren't.

It doesn't matter how much slash shipping and decreements you make about how it would be "better". They aren't. And making them that way would not only hurt the characters, but show that a character's sexuality is dependent on the prevailing thoughts of the time.

This. Is. Wrong.

No matter how you roll that particular dice. Equally, Will and Grace will not get it off, because he's gay and she's a woman.

Like many other shows, we also have to bring in the very basic idea that THEY ARE PUPPETS.

They do not have a sexuality because they don't have sex. They just don't. Get over it.

They don't even have a viable gender. It's like the cretinous idea of making the Cookie Monster eat healthy food.
HE'S A MONSTER THAT EATS COOKIES. IF YOU REMOVE COOKIES FROM HIS DIET, HE DIES.

Do you want to kill the Cookie Monster? Do you? Do you really want that on you conscience?

Bert and Ernie are muppets. They are not male. They do not have sex. Therefore they are not and cannot be gay. Let alone married.

Leave them alone. Ernie's never going to leave Duckie anyway.

also, it doesnt affect the show in any way because kids at that age probably dont understand the concept of sexuality.

I always thought they were bothers or just friends, i mean none of the other puppets have any kind of sexual orientatation, if they want it in the program have it be one of the humans not a puppet

kermit and miss piggy were undeniably hetero, unless one of them was pre-op transgendered (and the other one knew). they were also zoophiles.
i know, do a special about FUCKING ANIMALS!!! yaaaaay! [/retarded idea time]

 

[FFHAuthor]

"Bert and Ernie are best friends. They were created to teach preschoolers that people can be good friends with those who are very different from themselves," the statement said. "Even though they are identified as male characters and possess many human traits and characteristics... they remain puppets, and do not have a sexual orientation."

To be honest, that right there actually rekindles some faith for me in the media. In today's world of 'making everything a message' and 'enlightening children' to the oddities of the world, teaching children that there can be two mommy and two daddy families and everything under the sun at age 2 or younger...seeing Sesame Street willing to say that Bert and Ernie aren't going to deal with that issue is almost heartwarming.

Just being willing to say that not everything has to be a message about controversial and divisive topics. That sometimes, something that's simple should stay simple because you need the simple things when you're little, the complicated things need to come later.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

kermit and miss piggy were undeniably hetero,

I think we can question it. Miss Piggy was interested in "little kermie" (Mammals and Amphibians?) but it was always unclear whether her feelings were returned. And Miss Piggy would flirt with anything in trou...that had legs...frogs legs...and Dr Julius StrangePork.

Equally, Gonzo had a perfectly sound relationship with all his chickens (despite them all being female) and he's an alien.

Mr. Snuffleupagus has a little sister but used to be imaginary, and is about 4. Wanda and Wayne are a married couple but regularly beat the stuffing (eh?) out of each other.

Scooter has a twin sister that only existed when he was a baby. Dr Bunsen Honeydew/Beaker are in a very dodgy relationship (and possibly could be gay),

Yeah...not an awful lot of "normal" in the Muppets to begin with.

Although I suppose there are two people that could be gay...

 

[sleekie]

you know what? I'm just going to pretend this is a reverse troll and ignore it.

 

[Nurb]

Oh come on, I don't think there are many Gay-lesbian-bi preschoolers and kindergardeners out there

 

[moosek]

They sleep in separate beds. So that's a shit relationship if I've ever heard it.

I've been viciously bitched-out for my beliefs on the "it gets better" campaign. Yeah, I think that kids resorting to suicide is nothing short of a tragedy, but I don't think it should have to take a widely publicized bandwagon to improve anything. After all, those celebrities and politicians were essentially just patting them on the back and telling them "it'll be fine".

 

[Glerken]

This is why I can't claim to be fond of Liberals. I mean, I suppose I prefer them to Conservatives, but at least Conservative stupidity acts overtly against the Left. When Liberals do stupid shit, decent, hardworking Socialists and Communists somehow get lumped in with it.

This comes to mind:

http://www.marx2mao.com/Mao/CL37.html

I know it isn't the same topic really, but it still comes to mind.

I'm guessing you just saw LGBT and assumed that it was the work of a liberal.

In no article I could find does it say that the creator of this petition is a liberal. I've looked. I've googled the name. I found her twitter feed, she didn't state her political beliefs. Although she apparently is some sort of musician.

This leads me to believe she's just trying to gather some attention to help her (probably nonexistent) career, not acting on the behalf of any political ideology.
Make a stupid petition, get some free advertising, I'd do it.

 

[Treblaine]

This is a bit ridiculous. I mean... imagine this demand being put on any other male characters who have lived together.
Imagine their creators being petitioned to pair off these two just because some part of the audience (not even the target audience) says so.

it gives a whole new perspective


"Can two divorced men share an apartment without getting married to each other?"

The thing is... there is already slash fiction of this hypothetical gay relationship.

I haven't seen it. but I do know it is out there.

I know the internet.

 

[TastyCarcass]

It's an accepted fact that they're gay. They're gay icons!

 

[Jegsimmons]

aaahh the progressive movement, ruining childhoods and complicating shit for no god damn reason.

also, ITS FUCKING SESAME STREET!!! WHATS WRONG WITH YOU FUCKING PEOPLE!!!

 

[Treblaine]

"... they remain puppets, and do not have a sexual orientation."

Wait What?

Look between a Muppet's legs and you will find a man's hand up their ass.

THAT is what.

[Captcha= Mother's rstaftr]

 

[thirion1850]

It's a show for preschoolers. Stupidity is indeed infinite.

 

[Baldr]

Nothing like teaching sin and immorality to children.

 

[Thundero13]

*facehoof* If Sesame Street wanted them to be gay then that'd be fine, since they've outright said that they're just friends, nopony else should have anything to do with it

 

[RicoADF]

That guy is an idiot. Pre-shool kids don't understand any of that stuff, putting ANYTHING about sexuality (weather guy or not) in inappropriate. Their too young to know wtf it is.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

it gives a whole new perspective


"Can two divorced men share an apartment without getting married to each other?"

Ah, you beat me to it. Bert and Ernie are basically Sesame Street's answer to Oscar Madison and Felix Ungar.

Isn't assuming that two men can't live together and have an amicable, even caring relationship, without being a homosexual couple... well, bigoted?

 

[demoap]

.........Well
....that's weird

 

[badmunky64]

So just because 2 guys are roommates that makes them gay? Jesus, Fox News is going to jump all over this and I'm actually going to be rooting for them this time....did I just type that?!?