F@#&-ing Pirates....

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Novania

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Durxom said:
The thing is pirating does effect some stuff. I mean would you really want to release another game in a series if your last title, ended up being one of the top stolen titles of the year =/
A lot of people are wanting this, people who bought the game legitimately and want the sequel, which everyone else got....but trying to ask for something, when you have such a massive barrier around you like that, is hard =/ Hopefully Capcom will release it eventually but it still is a big problem
I have to congratulate Infinity Ward, they made a pretty well liked game...isn't that the whole point of making games in the first place? (/rhetorical question)

KingTiger said:
"Thou shalt play PC games all the time" would be my first commandment if I ever made my own religion.
Where do I sign up?
 

Levitas1234

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I'm not spending $60 on a video game when i could buy 2 weeks worth of food, or a roof above my head, or... drugs as an alternative.
 

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Does being a university student with piles of fees count as an excuse? =P

I may pirate stuff but there are always things worth paying for that i'm glad I did buy.

There's something about physically owning a copy that is soooooo satisfying. xD
 

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Durxom said:
This issue is seriously pissing me off..

As some may know, I am a Capcom fan, I love their games. And I own most of their newest games for PC, (ie. DMC4, RE5, and SF4)

But my pet peeve on this..is that those games were amazing, and also went and get released on the PC as well as the consoles, but because they were so awesome, both RE5 and SF4 became one of the top pirated games of 2009. Leaving Capcom now afraid to released both games new content (RE5 DLC, and SSF4), because of either poor sales or just fear of pirates.

I legally purchased my game, and know I am left out of future releases because a bunch pricks were too lazy to actually spend to buy something they wanted. I'm sorry if I'm offending anyone on here, and this might just be a pointless rant...but this is serious infuriating me

I am a person who is both critical of the game industry and of pirates, both are "bad" in their own way from the perspective of us consumers. I routinely compare it to being like the mafia fighting gang bangers.

Without getting into the entire arguement (which is off topic), I'd ask yourself whether you actually believe Capcom's claims. I mean "It's because of the pirates" is one of the biggest excuses whipped out by the gaming industry every time they want to justify something.

To put things into perspective, it's no longer just about making a profit. As the gaming industry has gotten bigger and increasingly corperate issues become less about coming out ahead, but how far ahead you can get for an investment. The money spent on DLC for the PC platform for example, might not be worth it to them if they feel they can make more money by investing that money somewhere else that will yield greater profits.

Blaming pirates is a more politic move than say telling PC gamers they they aren't worth the expense and risking alienating them since they doubtlessly were worth the expense of the initial release of the base product.

Not especially important I suppose, but I think consumers need to be a bit more savvy when looking at the gaming industry right now, especially if as a group we want to start seeing changes.

Also unrelated to the above, I'll say that with the Capcom games mentioned the DLC has been contreversial to say the least. Extra fees for the RE multiplayer, and additional costumes for SF 4 characters (when colors and costumes are something people have traditionally gotten as part of the features of fighting games to begin with). Pirates or not, I think people would be complaining about these anyway. If it was released people would be screaming about Capcom gouging people (which they are, their DLC is some of the touchiest out there), if it isn't released people get upset about their platform being discriminated against.

To be entirely honest when it comes to "Street Fighter" and fighting games in paticular my attitude has generally been that the DLC for them has been ridiculous, mostly selling costumes, recolors, and things like that which used to be in the game to begin with. In comparison it seems most fighting game fans, including me, have been thinking along the lines that such games should be releasing new characters, fighting styles, stages, and other things as the DLC instead. It's noteworthy in the case of "Street Fighter" that the "Super" version includes features a lot of people thought should have been released as DLC rahter than as an entirely new game. This is however an entirely differant debate. I myself refused to buy "Super Street Fighter IV" due to how quickly it was released and the fact that I do not care for how the whole thing was being marketed.

At any rate, all rambling aside, he basic point I'm making here is that as bad as pirates are, don't blindly take the industry's word either. Should you be blaming the pirates, or should you be blaming Capcom (if you really want the content that is) for not supporting your platform for not being profitable enough? You don't need to agree with me, all I'm saying is think about it, and keep this kind of thing in mind when you purchuse other games in the future, decide what to spend your money on, and what companies to support. Like many companies, the Capcom of today is an entirely differant animal than the one that made "Street Fighter" into the success it is to begin with.
 

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Cheesepower5 said:
There are the rare cases it's not so bad in my eyes, but if you pirate a game you'd otherwise buy then... I think you're kind of a dick, I guess.
What if you pirate it with the intent on buying it and put said game aside till you find the game (in my case a year) then play it. Just so you can have a back up image for when you go to a school where you had a few games and pieces of hardware already stolen. Because most of the games I buy are the ones that don't print much (Atlus I'm looking at you) and takes years to find. I don't see it as a bad thing to have a copy IF you own the game already, cause I had games stolen from me and I rather just keep a backup with me and the real copy that took a long time to find at home safe :D.
 

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naughtynazgul said:
Does being a university student with piles of fees count as an excuse? =P

I may pirate stuff but there are always things worth paying for that i'm glad I did buy.

There's something about physically owning a copy that is soooooo satisfying. xD
I know what you mean I get giddy when I look at my new copy of Dragon Quest 5 I just bought (took me about a year to find).
 

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Durxom said:
dududf said:
Piracy is also on consoles fyi.
I suppose so, but its less effective as it is with PC titles, since most consolers dont know about console piracy. Plus they already get said titles in the first place, with its extras. While I will now never be able to be Hakan and "oil up" x-x
They haven't found a good anti-piracy trick yet. Small DMR(DRM? i don't remember... anyways) are hack easily while big one like securom and that trojan Sony used for a while are evil. Once they find the magic solution, you'll probably won't miss any DLC.
 

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Radeonx said:
But it isn't just PC games being pirated, even though it is a majority.
A combination of that and them being scared to release it due to pirates makes me laugh because it reminds me of Gears of War 2... They said they wouldn't release it on PC due to pirates and it was leaked and being pirated on 360 maybe a month before the release date...
 

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Pirates are the bane of the gaming industry, no doubt about it. Legitimate gamers loathe them, developers despise them.

However, they seem to be a rather disturbing sign of the times. Numerous attempts have been made to try and curb piracy. Refer to SecuROM rants for further details. However, it seems that most of the time all these do is serve to anger the legitimate gamers. We have NO desire whatsoever to have rootkits and other back door admin tools installed on our computers without prior knowledge. (We don't want them EVEN WITH prior knowledge.)

This in turn seems to fuel the drive to pirate software so we can "look and see" if the game is a rare gem or a flaming pile of rhino poo. See "Spore" for further details. The game was garbage. (IMO) Why should someone pay $60 US to find this out?

The simplest solutions are also the most obvious. Longer demos, or at least ones that showcase ALL of the games' aspects instead of just a few carefully chosen high points. Episodic style layouts with shorter sections, lower per unit costs, but released more frequently. The problem there is the almost epidemic influx of CRAP-tastic games in recent history.

If the game is good quality, then people will want to buy it. If not... well, there you go. I know there are always dirt bags who want to be the exception to the rule.
 

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Hiphophippo said:
I would argue that in most cases, a pirated game is not a lost sale.
Yes because most Pirates wouldn't buy the thing anyway either because they can't afford it or they couldn't be bothered. The problem comes when trying to shove that little factoid down the throat of video game publishers.
 

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Arrrrrrrrr we got the treasure!

What is it sir?

Resident Evil Fourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

What about Five sir?

Arrr, not so much.
 

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Durxom said:
This issue is seriously pissing me off..

As some may know, I am a Capcom fan, I love their games. And I own most of their newest games for PC, (ie. DMC4, RE5, and SF4)

But my pet peeve on this..is that those games were amazing, and also went and get released on the PC as well as the consoles, but because they were so awesome, both RE5 and SF4 became one of the top pirated games of 2009. Leaving Capcom now afraid to released both games new content (RE5 DLC, and SSF4), because of either poor sales or just fear of pirates.

I legally purchased my game, and know I am left out of future releases because a bunch pricks were too lazy to actually spend to buy something they wanted. I'm sorry if I'm offending anyone on here, and this might just be a pointless rant...but this is serious infuriating me
You do realize that the entire idea of platform exclusive DLC is to trick people who bought it for the wrong one to buy it twice and has absolutely nothing to do with piracy, which is basically a scapegoat for pretty much anything these days?
 

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I used to pirate games a fair bit, mostly to get a demo of what the game was like and see if it was worth buying or not. Strangely (and mostly thanks to steam) I haven't pirated a recent game in about 2 years. Furthermore I'm happy to say that I've actually bought most of the games I pirated in recent years. I've been trying to get my hands on two games in particular though and even pirated versions are either not working or come in bearing a trojan. Guess ebay may be my last resort here.
 

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Durxom said:
This issue is seriously pissing me off..

As some may know, I am a Capcom fan, I love their games. And I own most of their newest games for PC, (ie. DMC4, RE5, and SF4)

But my pet peeve on this..is that those games were amazing, and also went and get released on the PC as well as the consoles, but because they were so awesome, both RE5 and SF4 became one of the top pirated games of 2009. Leaving Capcom now afraid to released both games new content (RE5 DLC, and SSF4), because of either poor sales or just fear of pirates.

I legally purchased my game, and know I am left out of future releases because a bunch pricks were too lazy to actually spend to buy something they wanted. I'm sorry if I'm offending anyone on here, and this might just be a pointless rant...but this is serious infuriating me
I feel your pain. Pirates are selfishly stealing games without caring about the consequences for people who want to buy them legitimately. The game industry is tanking. Unless digital theft is stopped now we're all finished!
 

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I don't pirate games.
I do download older games though, but I really don't see this as pirating.

ROM's and 15+ year old games are fair game in my eyes.


And, there are some awfully high horses in this thread.
 

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fenrizz said:
I don't pirate games.
I do download older games though, but I really don't see this as pirating.

ROM's and 15+ year old games are fair game in my eyes.


And, there are some awfully high horses in this thread.
I feel like people pirating old games is fine morally speaking. Game companies should be capitalizing off of emulators by making there own emulators and selling them for a small price. They could run all of there old titles, and could be sold for 20$, or come free with the purchase of a new console.
 

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To the ones saying PC is piracy prone.

Steam continues to disagree with you.

That is all.
 

Razmiran

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I would say capcom doesnt put out the New content of SS4 and RE5 for pc out of lazyness.
Cause if it truly was because of piracy...why would they put Dead rising 2 on pc?