FF7 Writer: Nintendo Era Is Over

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Hiroshi Mishima

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Okay first, Kato wasn't the ONLY person who worked on those games in terms of story. Especially since FF7 was co-written (I believe it was Kato's idea to kill Aeris, though), and the entire Dark Ages section of Chrono Trigger (as well as Chrono Cross) was written by someone else.

Next, this guy is just making a fool of himself by saying it. If he is that blind to obvious flaws in statements like "The DS is helping Nintendo dig its own grave" than he must not be much of a writer, either...
 

sooperman

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Well, considering that Jobs is not a gamer, does not think that gaming is a viable market, and does not have any interest in swinging into the games market, I think that Nintendo is going to be fine.

And besides, you'd have to claim that the "Soccer Moms and Nine-Year-Old Kids Era" has come to a close. I don't see The N ceasing to dominate any time soon.
 

Lunar Templar

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so the guy who wrote one of the worst ff games thinks that nintendo cant hold onto the hand held market any longer?

why yes I do think that ff7 is vastly over rated, how could you tell?
cause it IS over rated.
and who let the nut out of the nut house?, seriously, -.- comparing the ipad to a dedicated gaming platform is pure, unrestrained STUPIDITY.

think if anything Nintendo already has people eying the ipad to see what they can use to improve their own hardware, this won't kill the big N, it'll make em stronger, for now,

sooner or later though, they will be replaced as top dog in handhelds, but i don't see it happening anything soon :3
 

DrDeath3191

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I, like many, find the idea laughable. Nintendo is pretty much synonymous with hand held gaming. The iPad may be (undeservedly) successful but that is in no means the downfall of the giant that is Nintendo. Many people have tried to beat Nintendo at their own game; they did not meet with success.
 

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I doubt it, because while the DS continues the have an array or third parties and of course the big N making games for the DS, the ipad/iphone mostly just has indie games.
Although some companies are starting to get a bit more into the iphone gaming scene, Square Enix and Capcom to name a few.
 

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OANST said:
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Do you think it's possible that you guys could start proof reading your articles before hitting the post button? There are more spelling mistakes and grammatical errors in this site's articles than there are on 4chan.
Did you know that "handheld" is listed as a typo? Just because there's a red line under it doesn't mean it's incorrect ;)
I'm referring to the replacement of the word "threat" with the word "thread". This is why I chose the words proof read and not the words spell check.
We do proofread. Sometimes things slip through the cracks. Happens. Thanks for pointing it out :)

I get that things slip through the cracks. I get that. But at least two thirds of the articles I read on this site have errors that slip through the cracks. You can assume that I'm exaggerating if you want, but I'm not.
Frankly, you are. Just sayin'.
Frankly, you have no idea how many or which articles that I read on this site, so your claim to the contrary is ludicrous at best. If you'd like more empirical data, then I will start tracking which articles I bother to read and which have spelling errors.
Be my guest. But I assure you, we do proofread pretty extensively. Not saying that things don't slip through the cracks every now and then - and please, bring them to our attention when they do - but suggesting otherwise is pretty insulting given that we pride ourselves on the strength of our editorial content, and are up in the Webbies alongside The New York Times, the New Yorker, and Wired for just that. So we must be doing SOMETHING right ;)
Yeah, alright. I'm going to stop being a pedant now, and let you get on with your day.
lol, thank you both for that. I was waiting for someone to end it or a ban to happen.

I like your articles Funk, and haven't really noticed the proofreading issue really. I'm assuming you have somebody that does that as you are a magazine.
I'm hoping you do anyway...If not...you can pay me to.
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I hope not. I'd much rather prefer a game company making gaming devices than gaming divisions of larger companies.
 

brighteye

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While WII is the red headed bastard stepchild in the consolemarket, i still see a hand held Nintendo dominance in the next couple of years atleast.
Comparing to Apple products is like saying apples is better than meat.
Both have their function, but having one doesnt impact the need of the other.

( on a sidenote, i am starting to get real curious about the future of consoles, handhelds and otherwise. What will the next generation bring ? bigger hard drives or internet cloud services ? handhelds with internal wiiboards for that gum experiance ? facial recognision software for the camera and web browser ? new draconian software encryption anti pirate software that melt your console if you put in your 32 digit purchase code wrong or break your online connection ? )
 

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Apple certainly does pose a threat to Nintendo's handheld market, but I doubt it's cause for much turmoil; Nintendo will find a way to stay on top, just like they always have (except for last generation's home consoles).

Even so, I am very interested in the iPad as a gaming platform, and wouldn't be surprised if we saw some triple-A titles on it in the near future. However, I still don't consider it a handheld system due to its lack of transportability.
 

muffincakes

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I'm sorry, all I got out of that was 'Look! The next WoW-killer!' except it was about Nintendo this time. Of course, Apple can't kill the DS since the PSP did that like seven years ago, right?
 

Narutard

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Yes, because a new device the size of a cutting board is something I can cram into my pocket for some portable gaming. And it weighs 1.6 lbs, which is 3x the weight of a NDS Lite, or equivalent to a full Sony Vaio X netbook. I'm sure my hands and wrists will love the ergonomics of that for gaming at length. And this device will never get any Nintendo exclusives like Pokemon, and Mario which have sold like ten trillion copies. And let's not forget that wonderful Apple battery life, which is being drained by movies, music, wi-fi web surfing, god knows what else.

Sounds like a recipe for gaming domination!

/sarcasm
 

Atmos Duality

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I've been hoping someone else would force Nintendo to evolve its handhelds even further.
Sony could have been that someone, if they weren't so focused on being complete idiots with the PSP.

Apple however, brings with it mixed blessings.
iPhone/iPad/etc are all about system unity; that is, copying the same strategy that made Microsoft so wildly successful in the 90s.

As a handheld gaming competitor, all of Apple's gaming lineup so far is a joke. Tilt-o-whirl controls and poor response times dominate their gaming lineups, leaving the usual perennial group of games to shore up sales (Tetris, Bejeweled, blah blah blah ported literally a billion times).

Like the Nintendo Wii however, it's a profitable joke; proving once again that the world is full of gullible fools who will buy anything if it's hyped enough.

On the other hand, this is still potential competition for Nintendo; whose development into handhelds has stagnated over the last 15 years.
 

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BlindMessiah94 said:
OANST said:
John Funk said:
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Do you think it's possible that you guys could start proof reading your articles before hitting the post button? There are more spelling mistakes and grammatical errors in this site's articles than there are on 4chan.
Did you know that "handheld" is listed as a typo? Just because there's a red line under it doesn't mean it's incorrect ;)
I'm referring to the replacement of the word "threat" with the word "thread". This is why I chose the words proof read and not the words spell check.
We do proofread. Sometimes things slip through the cracks. Happens. Thanks for pointing it out :)

I get that things slip through the cracks. I get that. But at least two thirds of the articles I read on this site have errors that slip through the cracks. You can assume that I'm exaggerating if you want, but I'm not.
Frankly, you are. Just sayin'.
Frankly, you have no idea how many or which articles that I read on this site, so your claim to the contrary is ludicrous at best. If you'd like more empirical data, then I will start tracking which articles I bother to read and which have spelling errors.
Be my guest. But I assure you, we do proofread pretty extensively. Not saying that things don't slip through the cracks every now and then - and please, bring them to our attention when they do - but suggesting otherwise is pretty insulting given that we pride ourselves on the strength of our editorial content, and are up in the Webbies alongside The New York Times, the New Yorker, and Wired for just that. So we must be doing SOMETHING right ;)
Yeah, alright. I'm going to stop being a pedant now, and let you get on with your day.
lol, thank you both for that. I was waiting for someone to end it or a ban to happen.

I like your articles Funk, and haven't really noticed the proofreading issue really. I'm assuming you have somebody that does that as you are a magazine.
I'm hoping you do anyway...If not...you can pay me to.
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I doubt that they would be so childish as to ban me for pointing out errors, regardless of how tactlessly I did it.
 

Lvl 64 Klutz

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This is why Twitter has so many haters. Someone who did something somewhere posts their personal thoughts on a subject they have little expertise in and they KNOW they have little expertise in, and suddenly it's treated like a quote from a press conference.

Let the man have his opinions and leave him alone. You wouldn't get your panties in a bunch if Miyamoto said the restaurant down the street had terrible sashimi.
 

samsonguy920

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Why is there this attitude that the iPad is going to dethrone big N from handhelds? The iPad is shit for entertainment purposes, and is more the yuppies trying to impress at their workplaces.
I have my doubts Jobs really intended as such. If he made such statements it was as an attempt to sucker gamers into buying it...only to realize after that they got themselves an overembellished calculator that can type hEllO in many different fonts...except Comic Sans.
 

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Not that I'm about to jump behind a company or bash them but ...Apple Ipad vs any handheld? There's a lot of limits to them since there's no tactile feel and they're extremely expensive. And one other thing, YOU CAN'T BUY GAMES FOR IT ANYWHERE ELSE BUT ITUNES. So Apple has to greenlight your game and then they take 40% of the profits, so what big name games are going to hop onto a device with such strange controls and virtually no portability? Are we going to see the next big Final Fantasy on it? No.

Itouch and Iphone have a huge edge over the ipad, the giant sign that says "Steal me Now"
 

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Flying-Emu said:
This man is an idiot. Why are we paying attention to what he said? So he wrote FF7. Whoop-dee-fucking-do. That gives him no authority when it comes to business projections.

Nintendo does have an enemy in Apple, but just like they always have, Nintendo will come out better for the competition. They did it with Sega, and they've only grown exponentially since then.
This 100%. I'm sure its many a Microsoft and Sony fanboys dream that the house of Nintendo falls, they can keep dreaming. It would be like trying to topple the dominance of the Windows OS. It just will not happen. At least, not any time soon.
 

Haro

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I seriously doubt that Nintendo is just going to fall over because someone else is getting into the handheld industry. Granted, Apple is doing a better job than most of the other laughable attempts to contest with the Big N. But first, consider the games that apple platforms have had: board games and card games make up a fairly large number, most games are fairly shallow (albeit often remarkably fun) arcade games.

Nintendo has a device dedicated entirely to gaming, and they have had a wide variety of successful games on it. iPads and iPhones can play games, and they can be quite good, but its not their focus by a long shot.

So will Apple dethrone Nintendo? Who the fuck knows? People aren't capable of unerringly predicting the future. In fact, there have been so many times that predictions of "experts" in the gaming industry have gone completely ass-backwards that I'm surprised anyone tries (or listens to those trying.) Needless to say, Mr. Kato seems pretty biased, and just because he did a bloody final fantasy game (which I do not care about in the slightest) doesn't mean he's some omniscient gaming God who gazes clearly into the future.

In short, I won't be surprised if Apple's products are fairly large successes, and I lack the hubris to go ahead and make predictions on what is going to happen, but no one should underestimate Nintendo, especially not in portable gaming, a category they invented and have absolutely dominated.
 

camazotz

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OANST said:
John Funk said:
OANST said:
John Funk said:
OANST said:
Do you think it's possible that you guys could start proof reading your articles before hitting the post button? There are more spelling mistakes and grammatical errors in this site's articles than there are on 4chan.
Did you know that "handheld" is listed as a typo? Just because there's a red line under it doesn't mean it's incorrect ;)
I'm referring to the replacement of the word "threat" with the word "thread". This is why I chose the words proof read and not the words spell check.
We do proofread. Sometimes things slip through the cracks. Happens. Thanks for pointing it out :)

I get that things slip through the cracks. I get that. But at least two thirds of the articles I read on this site have errors that slip through the cracks. You can assume that I'm exaggerating if you want, but I'm not.
Please let me direct you to:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Grammar%20Nazi

Life will become considerably more bearable online if you learn to accept the imperfections of internet postings (and posters). Otherwise, it will drive you mad, I assure you!
 

RowdyRodimus

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Breaking Editorial!

Final Fantasy VII Player Claims Writer Is Wrong.
(parody news network)

I have played FF7, so that must mean my opinion on everything is worth noting. The Ipad will not cause the downfall of Nintendo. For one thing, it's only a matter of time before Apple releases the "new and improved" Ipad and then six months later the new iteration of that. People won't know which version to get. Sure Nintendo is bad about releasing new versions of their handhelds, but for the most part they make sure the original games are compatable with the new version.

If Apple were to stay with one format for more than a year, they might be serious competition for Nintendo. The best shot they had was the Ipod Touch, which they have seemingly forgotten about in lieu of the Ipad. It was the perfect size for handheld gaming unlike the magazine sized but encyclopedia weight Ipad.

Let's not forget that Nintendo is a gaming company. Their entire business is gaming and gaming related products. Even if they barely manage to break even on either the handheld or console front, they have the other to back it up with.

Yes, Nintendo is digging it's grave but they are going about it as Egyptian Pharo's did in the past and building huge pyramids and effigies of itself to admire for many years before they die.