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Xvito

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If I had a wife, then she'd be cooking the food if she knew what was best for her... Because if I cooked we'd both die from food-poisoning... Or maybe some weird disease.

I really gotta learn how to cook...
 

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Technically, if you want to be "Normal" then you need to get a divorce and become a single parent working two jobs and looking after the children.

That Nuclear Unit of the past is the myth of today.
 

The_ModeRazor

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Why do what others tell you to? Why even care about them? Just tell them they can fuck right off/ignore them. Do what you feel like doing.
And the whole stereotype thing about men&women should have died by the end of the middle ages. The two aren't that different.
 

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I really hate that sort of thing. Not because I am a feminist but because it makes it very hard for me to justify the fact that I think a man should take care of a woman. I think the traditional family structure thing is really cool. A woman who takes care of the children and the homestead

but it has been twisted and contorted more by men than women it seems. Some girls want to work and have professional careers and thats cool, maybe ill do that too, and I guess a lot of guys feel that emasculates them somehow that they arent the sole provider anymore.

sometimes I feel whatever you choose you will be looked down on by some group. Women who are all about female empowerment will think you are holding back progress if you choose to raise your children and men will repeat their tired lines about sandwich making if you want to be a career woman.

that and if a guy wants to do something for me, I will let them. I could prolly lift that heavy object, but if a guy gets something out of the act of helping a girl I think thats great. It doesnt make me weak or dependant but there are people who will make it out to be like that.

i feel like its harder than ever to just be 'normal' maybe i dont want to be super progressive about some things, is that so bad?
There should be more people like you.
 
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AvsJoe said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
AvsJoe said:
That's because the divorce rates skyrocket when the woman is the breadwinner.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-467390/Househusband-backlash-high-flying-wives-ditch-men-em-em-wanted-stay-home.html
You actually linked the Daily Mail in a serious discussion?????

Man, you have cojones like watermelons.
I'm glad somebody spotted the sarcasm. Here's a cookie.
I heard the NF removed their ads from the Daily Mail because they didn't want to be associated with someone that far right.
 

Labyrinth

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AvsJoe said:
That's because the divorce rates skyrocket when the woman is the breadwinner.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-467390/Househusband-backlash-high-flying-wives-ditch-men-em-em-wanted-stay-home.html
Aside from the dubious quality of that article (Out of supposedly 200 000 home dads, they interviewed three and a very specific three.) I would say that this too is a fault of the culture and a lack of communication between the people. The culture surrounding these people demands a working male partner and expects the woman to be the primary carer. Hence the bias of the courts for example.

I find this insufficient evidence to state that women should not be the breadwinner.

In addition I had a look through related articles and one of them actually said that intelligent women are less happy because they analyse things. This is a publication with the message to women of "be stupid and sedate."
 

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I think it all just depends on how everyone was raised. If parents keep telling their male kids to be the one that brings home the cash and their female kids to find someone rich to marry so they dont have to work or the opposite for both, it will always just be an argument between who should be the one to support. Nothing wrong with either man or woman bring home the cash long as somehow the kids are being supported.
 

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Hey, as long as both the commercial AND domestic work gets done, who gives a fuck which gender does it? I could totally be a househusband if my lady earns more than me.

"Hey, if sweetie want to buy Jared nice things. Jared has no problem with that!"


Edit: Though I do have to say this to feminists: Why the fuck do you want to be like men? Why is it that it is now desirable to give up your feminine identity and replace it with pointless careerism and shoulder-pads? Your are the life givers, the nurturers. Why place yourself in the same bracket as career men? Men, I might add, who die younger than you due mostly to stress in the workplace.
 

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JaredXE said:
Edit: Though I do have to say this to feminists: Why the fuck do you want to be like men? Why is it that it is now desirable to give up your feminine identity and replace it with pointless careerism and shoulder-pads? Your are the life givers, the nurturers. Why place yourself in the same bracket as career men? Men, I might add, who die younger than you due mostly to stress in the workplace.
I'm not emulating a man for wanting a career, nor am I any less a woman for being angry, opinionated, scary, occasionally violent or any of these things. I'm not the nurturing type but I sure as hell have two X chromosomes.
 

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I not trying to piss anyone off but humans work like that the men used to go hunt and the women look after kids kind of like animals but yeah women can work but in not in mens gentics to be a househusband unlike women's maternal instinct
 

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I guess I could probably join in on the conversation...but I have trouble doing so whenever housework, especially in kitchens, gets involved. I've been raised with the idea that knowing how to cook will help me attract a girl, and my father is one of the best cooks I know.
 

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Just have a sense of humor and you will be normal. I mean now mostly people just joke around with that(males and females).
 

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hoopyfrood said:
BonsaiK said:
Proof that feminists are "mostly unconcerned with gender equality" and credible references, please.
Feminists have indoctrinated society to the point where they can do pretty much anything they want to, and nobody, such as you, will even notice. Because to you it's just the normal state of affairs, nothing out of the ordinary.
Sorry, but I'm going to require proof of that.

As for feminists who are concerned with gender equality, hi! I'm one of them!
 

Chester41585

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My take? If a woman wants workplace equality and all that other flowery polished-shoes corporate memo stuff, she can have it as long as she can handle the workload and put up with the same crap men do. I've grown weary of having to go out of my way to make sure I'm not in violation of some odd policy and I'm tired of seeing people destroyed in the workplace because of some abstract HR Policy in the back of a five thousand page book tome. If men are supposed to respect the nature of women, then women should then respect the nature of men.


At that, I'd like to add that I'm a 100% flag-waving, apple pie loving, pledge-swearing United States of American Constitutionalist that believes everyone has an equal right to the benefits granted to them when they are born or become citizens of the United States of America. That means you, ladies.
 

BonsaiK

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hoopyfrood said:
Labyrinth said:
Sorry, but I'm going to require proof of that.
I could spend days of my time assembling links, but it would be pointless because you would just dismiss them all via some convinient and predictable excuse (those are all isolated incidents, well I'm not like that so it can't be true, it was all made up by the Fox Conspiracy Machine, etc. etc.).

As for feminists who are concerned with gender equality, hi! I'm one of them!
Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. The majority of feminists are against true equality, so you don't really matter. And I must once again wonder what feminism is even supposed to mean when anyone can be one. Doesn't matter if you believe in equality or if you want to castrate all men, you're still as feminist as anyone else.
Regardless of the subject matter, whether it be feminism, racism, sexism, the functioning of kitchen appliances, the Superbowl or whatever, if what you are saying is true then coming up with ironclad, irrefutable proof of your position won't be a problem. If on the other hand you're just ranting, and when asked for proof you just link to isolated incidents, biased articles produced by media with a specific agenda to demonise the topic at hand, and other rants, then yeah, people are gonna tear it down quicksmart. Obviously. Refusing to provide sources, on the other hand, is admitting defeat, it's saying "I can't back this up with anything truly credible, I guess maybe I need to educate myself about the topic a bit more before throwing my two cents in, sorry for wasting everyone's time".