There should be more people like you.cas said:I really hate that sort of thing. Not because I am a feminist but because it makes it very hard for me to justify the fact that I think a man should take care of a woman. I think the traditional family structure thing is really cool. A woman who takes care of the children and the homestead
but it has been twisted and contorted more by men than women it seems. Some girls want to work and have professional careers and thats cool, maybe ill do that too, and I guess a lot of guys feel that emasculates them somehow that they arent the sole provider anymore.
sometimes I feel whatever you choose you will be looked down on by some group. Women who are all about female empowerment will think you are holding back progress if you choose to raise your children and men will repeat their tired lines about sandwich making if you want to be a career woman.
that and if a guy wants to do something for me, I will let them. I could prolly lift that heavy object, but if a guy gets something out of the act of helping a girl I think thats great. It doesnt make me weak or dependant but there are people who will make it out to be like that.
i feel like its harder than ever to just be 'normal' maybe i dont want to be super progressive about some things, is that so bad?
I heard the NF removed their ads from the Daily Mail because they didn't want to be associated with someone that far right.AvsJoe said:I'm glad somebody spotted the sarcasm. Here's a cookie.The_root_of_all_evil said:You actually linked the Daily Mail in a serious discussion?????AvsJoe said:That's because the divorce rates skyrocket when the woman is the breadwinner.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-467390/Househusband-backlash-high-flying-wives-ditch-men-em-em-wanted-stay-home.html
Man, you have cojones like watermelons.
Aside from the dubious quality of that article (Out of supposedly 200 000 home dads, they interviewed three and a very specific three.) I would say that this too is a fault of the culture and a lack of communication between the people. The culture surrounding these people demands a working male partner and expects the woman to be the primary carer. Hence the bias of the courts for example.AvsJoe said:That's because the divorce rates skyrocket when the woman is the breadwinner.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-467390/Househusband-backlash-high-flying-wives-ditch-men-em-em-wanted-stay-home.html
I'm not emulating a man for wanting a career, nor am I any less a woman for being angry, opinionated, scary, occasionally violent or any of these things. I'm not the nurturing type but I sure as hell have two X chromosomes.JaredXE said:Edit: Though I do have to say this to feminists: Why the fuck do you want to be like men? Why is it that it is now desirable to give up your feminine identity and replace it with pointless careerism and shoulder-pads? Your are the life givers, the nurturers. Why place yourself in the same bracket as career men? Men, I might add, who die younger than you due mostly to stress in the workplace.
Sorry, but I'm going to require proof of that.hoopyfrood said:Feminists have indoctrinated society to the point where they can do pretty much anything they want to, and nobody, such as you, will even notice. Because to you it's just the normal state of affairs, nothing out of the ordinary.BonsaiK said:Proof that feminists are "mostly unconcerned with gender equality" and credible references, please.
Regardless of the subject matter, whether it be feminism, racism, sexism, the functioning of kitchen appliances, the Superbowl or whatever, if what you are saying is true then coming up with ironclad, irrefutable proof of your position won't be a problem. If on the other hand you're just ranting, and when asked for proof you just link to isolated incidents, biased articles produced by media with a specific agenda to demonise the topic at hand, and other rants, then yeah, people are gonna tear it down quicksmart. Obviously. Refusing to provide sources, on the other hand, is admitting defeat, it's saying "I can't back this up with anything truly credible, I guess maybe I need to educate myself about the topic a bit more before throwing my two cents in, sorry for wasting everyone's time".hoopyfrood said:I could spend days of my time assembling links, but it would be pointless because you would just dismiss them all via some convinient and predictable excuse (those are all isolated incidents, well I'm not like that so it can't be true, it was all made up by the Fox Conspiracy Machine, etc. etc.).Labyrinth said:Sorry, but I'm going to require proof of that.
Maybe you are, maybe you aren't. The majority of feminists are against true equality, so you don't really matter. And I must once again wonder what feminism is even supposed to mean when anyone can be one. Doesn't matter if you believe in equality or if you want to castrate all men, you're still as feminist as anyone else.As for feminists who are concerned with gender equality, hi! I'm one of them!